Rangers manager, Ally McCoist, appears intent on testing the SFA following his outburst yesterday. According to McCoist the Association “effectively called” Sone Aluko “a cheat and a liar”. Chairmen of the disciplinary tribunal, former referee Jim McCluskey, had his judgement called into question by McCoist, who said, “The meeting was chaired by a former referee and I have to say his decision making hasn’t improved any since he stopped refereeing.”
This is a new tone from the Rangers manager, who never spoke in these terms about the SFA before they decided to investigate Rangers owner Craig Whyte’s suitability as a fit and proper person to be involved in the game. Despite yesterday’s punishment, Rangers remain Scotland’s most influential club by the length of the Queen’s highway. Sabre rattling from Ibrox cannot be dismissed by the Association, who, I am led to believe, will find their investigation into Whyte thwarted.
McCoist escaped SFA punishment for his inflammatory comments to Neil Lennon at Celtic Park in March. It remains to be seen if this new outburst establishes a new method of inappropriate behaviour without consequence. Shauny Aluko will surely not thank his manager for the “cheat and a liar” association. Words like those tend to follow a player.
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Is the game in any danger today lhads
praecepta
I will keep you and your family in my thoughts today.
TBB
tamstered
No
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HarryHoodsDugBitMe
Are you ok for chat at 2.15pm ? Celtic end side of main entrance area ?
Just back from the shops wi the rolls. No papers obviously. But caught back page of the hun.
Why we let that tadger McGregor into our press conferences I don’t know.
Praecepta Sorry to hear about your mum. YNWA
Looking forward to today. Hibs +2 and the bhoys 5-0 5-1.
I detest Hearts.
brimmer
p.s. Happy Birthday MWD
So the orange walks are now becoming and all-year-round event.
You’d imagine in a normal modern european society a fanatical sectarian organisation such as the OO would be dying out .
In Scotland 2011 they actually seem to be thriving with more marches than ever!
tamstered says:
10 December, 2011 at 10:13
Is the game in any danger today lhads
I live 5 mins from ground.
1 million% on.
brimmer
Celtic -2 goals is 11/4 Hills,bet of the day.
Morning all. Miserable day here in North Ayrshire.
I’d love to see a banner at todays game along the lines of ‘Craig Whyte – appearing at a court near you soon !’
How bealin would the huns be ?
Saturday.
3.00pm kick off at Paradise.
Gazebo convention 2.15pm
Isn’t life wonderful?
EC67
MWD
Happy Birthday, Bud
Enjoy your day and many happy returns :-)
Not that this will come as a surprise to you bhoys but as I was buying some milk to take into work this morning I caught a headline on the front page of one of the rags that went along the lines of –
‘LENNON RAPS McCOIST OVER blah blah. . . . . ‘
I saw Neil’s interview and in no way did he ‘rap’ anyone.
Sh!t-stirring at its finest.
I, for one, cannot wait for the day these so-called newspapers cease to exist.
uncle fester
Sun’s website leads with “SHUT IT,ALLY” and a picture of Neil in fullrant mode,beside a picture of sally simle looking a tad puzzled.
Bunchawa8kers…….
Vmhan, Kano 1000 – Supporting Lenny & the Green Brigada! says:
10 December, 2011 at 08:39
Love your commitment to see the hoops mate.
Bobby,
It completely infuriated me when I saw it. I know it shouldn’t have done as it’s been like this for as longer as I can remember.
There’s definitely a concerted effort by the MSM to portray our Manager as some sort of evil villain.
They’re not even trying to hide it.
Sickening.
Whilst an Irishman with a first name of Pat is in charge of Hibs they will not be allowed to beat or draw with the huns.
Glenn Gibbons: Current simulation laws rightly protect innocent
Published on Saturday 10 December 2011 01:20
IN FOOTBALL, as in other walks of life, laws are framed to protect as well as prosecute. Through the week-long clamour for “justice” that was the feature of the fall-out from the Sone Aluko affair, too many commentators rushed into righteous tub-thumping without making the distinction.
Predictably, too, some of the misguided pronouncements came from former professionals, a body that seems for the past few years to have been as industrious as a colony of ants in the business of building a reputation for ill-considered punditry. While nobody expects the great majority of ex-players or managers to demonstrate the statesmanship of Abraham Lincoln, one or two have conscientiously cultivated an image of cool intelligence that could cause viewers, listeners and readers to expect better.
Pat Nevin, for example, boasts credentials that include five years as chairman of the Professional Footballers Association in England, a position that would have exposed him to the long-serving and greatly experienced Gordon Taylor. It should have been sufficient to infuse the former winger with an awareness of the wisdom of examining the pros, cons and possible ramifications of significant issues before casting an opinion in public.
Instead, he was at the head of the queue of those hastily advocating a change in the present legislation, one that would see players who are caught in the act of attempting to dupe a referee into making an incorrect decision issued with an on-the-spot red card.
Nevin’s (and others’) claim that such punitive action would soon lower the rate of simulation among would-be offenders may or may not prove to be sound, but it fails to address the possibility of a referee wrongfully dismissing an innocent man. If, as the Aluko case and others before it proves, a match official can erroneously reward a cheat, he is surely just as capable of a misjudgment that victimises the guiltless.
In such instances, there is no appeal, because an ordering-off cannot be undone after the fact. Of course, the consequences of injudiciously rewarding a player for cheating – as with Aluko – are equally unalterable, but there remains a mechanism for (backdated) disciplinary measures.
If a referee does hold a player to be guilty of attempted deception, a free kick is awarded to the latter’s opponents and the offender is punished, quite properly, with a yellow card. No serious damage is done, the potential for a miscarriage of justice is avoided and the protection of the possibly innocent is preserved.
The Dunfermline chairman, John Yorkston, in addition, exhibited an alarmingly narrow view of another significant aspect of the business: he wondered why an offence that carries only a caution when detected at the time becomes effectively a dismissal and a two-match suspension when culpability is established retrospectively.
Only a short period of pondering the nature of the kind of incident that prompts an indictment by the Scottish FA’s compliance officer should have been sufficient to put an end to his bewilderment. The successful cheat is rewarded with the possibly match-changing wrong decision into which he has conned the referee (in Aluko’s case, a converted penalty kick) and the consequences of his behaviour, therefore, automatically becomes appreciably more serious. The “sentence”, upgraded from a caution to a two-match suspension, is, naturally, adjusted to fit the crime.
There was also a certain naivete among the many who wondered why Aluko and Rangers did not accept the compliance officer’s offer of a ban. Instead, the player and the club decided to take the matter to the independent tribunal, when the bulk of observers (certainly outside Ibrox) seemed to agree that the odds against his acquittal should be expressed in five figures.
They appeared not to have realised that, had Aluko accepted the punishment without presenting a defence, it would have amounted to an admission of culpability and, by extension, he could have been perceived as guilty of perjury during his vehement post-match denials of diving.
UNCLE FESTER 1055
Totally agree,but give the LL their due,they certainly know their audience.
Especially now so few TIMS soil their hands with their output.
Yeehaa – ticket for the game, lift to and from the stadium, wife off work looking after kids – great start to the weekend. Off to get some square sausage.
Come on Hibs Mon the Hoops!
HH
To Burnley, HarryHood’sDug, EC67 and other planning to meet up at the ol’ Gazebo
I’m afraid the wind has upset plans a little. Can you do us a favour and help retrieve it from the hedges behind Barrowfield?
THE BATTERED BUNNET 1056
Excellent article covering a fair few angles,especially the potential pitfalls associated with a straight-red for simulation.
BTW,you were getting praise from a new poster the other night,LEITRIM GHIRL. Any relation,he asked,insouciantly…..
Just stepping out – on s hirt and tie job to-day – will still pop into BB’s before heading on to Paradise
Looking forward to the game – got a good feeling
Hail hail
Have to say though some of theses managers whom have experience elsewhere and are new to the scene must fancy their chances against the teachers pet.
iPaddy McCourt says:
What a ridiculous thing to say…
Bobby @ 11.00,
They certainly do know their audience and pander to them at every turn.
It puzzles me as to why any TIM (my own Father being one of them) would buy the Record/Sun etc.
I know it’s handy to know what the enemy (and that’s what they are, the enemy) are up to but after the the Thugs ‘n’ Thieves article I promised myself, like many of us, that I would never, ever contribute to their existence again.
I’m happy to report that I have kept that promise thus far and can’t see me ever breaking it.
UF
folks
for those who sense hertz will be a goalfest for us:
-beware players playing for new contracts in Jan with other clubs; what better place to shine than CP?
-beware simple professional pride
-beware outright mibbery
Tho’ can see where the confidence is coming from, their last six suggests our form team should bury them-
Recent league form – last six matches league:
Home W W L L W L
Away D D L W D L
Collated L L D L W L
like I said should be an interesting afternoon..my best hope is we take the 3 points and chew up the 4 goal difference.
That’ll do for me Lenny
HH
M
Lennon n Mc….Mjallby says:..
I disagree…
I’m going to stick a ten spot on hibs 3 rankers 1 Sproule with first goal.
Sproule O,conner 2
TBB
Whit?
Ah gave that wee guy a pound tae watch the gazebo!
D’you mean he huznae?
purescunneredCSC
The Sun headline…”Shut it Ally” Lennon v McCoist Round 2.
Despicable headline. It is time.the editors were called into a room by the Govt to account for their coverage of football in the lead up.to the 28th.
If not the Govt. then Celtic should speak to them and warn them they will be banned.
BMCUW
Gibbons is going to have to get with the programme. All this reasonableness and pragmatism is simply not on. We want FURY, ANGER, LIES AND MADE UP STUFF in our newspapers, not this ‘considered view’ pap.
No wonder the guy is respected.
As for Leitrim Ghirl, nope, didn’t notice that or else I’d have said hullo. Don’t know who she is though.
Is it the bleedin’ battle of Helmsdeep or summat today?
Argyle St enjoying the sound of the drums and hooves of marching Orcs.
As Mrs NB just said ‘WHY?’
Hearts are always a pig in the poke!
They always seem to raise theirgame for us ..
A 1-0 scrappy win will suit me fine!
I feel Easter road will throw up a very interesting result today!
No Naismith and laugherty .. Players used ro playing in these conditions
And pressure.
I’ve got a feeling wooooooo hooooooo that tonights gonna be a good night
MWD
Hapyy Birthday Auld yin
Free Travel and a cheaper season ticket what a day for ye.
Enjoy
Can I watch your Gazebo Mr?
pauloantony says:
10 December, 2011 at 11:11
What a ridiculous thing to say :))
Man, I have the mother of all hangovers. NEVER mix the barley and the grape.
I broke that golden rule and now I face a 90 mile journey for another night out, and I as sick as a small hospital.
C’mon Celtic, ease my suffering with a nice 3 – 0 win