Referring to a team no longer with us

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Let’s be clear, you cannot punish a player on the basis that he has made a comment which is only offensive, offence is subjective, highly so in Scottish football, where thousands await the opportunity.

Nor can you punish a player for a derogatory remark which may offend, especially if the remark does not call into question the probity of the subject.  “Hearts are rotten, we beat them easily twice this season”, is a derogatory remark and will offend some Hearts fans, but it also falls into the category of being a fair opinion.

And without pointing out the obvious, you cannot offend the dead.  John Guidetti and the club are right to contest this ridiculous charge, which by context, clearly refers to a team no longer with us.

I was absolutely astonished to read that newco (and former oldco) director, Paul Murray, explained Dave King’s absence from newco’s recent share as he is waiting until the SFA “have completed their review of Dave’s status before he can fully participate in the future of the Club”.

The SFA have no issue whatsoever in Dave King investing heavily in newco, or in owning all shares.  Indeed, King is already the largest shareholder, which has attracted no attention from the football authorities.

The prospect of King sloping off if the SFA judge him not Fit and Proper (which I think they will), is a fabulous twist in the work of this legendary non-executive director of a dead club.  He sat on the oldco board which paid EBTs for so many years, he stayed while they made no provision for the HMRC tax case, plunging into the transfer market instead.  Now he awaits the whim of the SFA before deciding to invest, having led newco away from their primary source of funding.

What a star.

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  1. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    KevJ

     

    I couldnae get on that bus for cup final 75 I think, Cesars last match.

     

     

    Had to go by taxi from office just down from the pub, my first cup final with my brothers and no in the main stand with my dad

  2. BIG-CUP-WINNERS on

    Celtic played St Mirren on a Friday night before. Chicken George and Buzz Bomb scored for the Celtic in a two nil win……….at Ibrox, as Love St was getting rebuilt.

  3. f.a.b. virgil (watrc)

     

     

    09:42 on 25 March, 2015

     

    TD67

     

     

    But you’re in the comfort zone in here spouting off so as guilty as anyone of inaction? Are you not connected into the CSA and did you not get into their last jamboree on a free pass?

     

     

    I don’t do soft spin.

     

     

    JFDI

     

     

    HH

     

     

    Jamboree on a free pass? Enlighten me, where you askin me or telling me, me thinks your an expert at spin, soft or any other, why you so upset about Celtic fans not standing up for them selfs? I’m sure you know the leaders and I know where your coming from, so fes up why shouldent Celtic fans stand up and have a go at the HUN hoards? You scared, me? No I’m not, but as I keep telling you I’m not in a position of power and you know who Is so ask them to lead and you support them. Why are you not them and having a go at me, if your going to back me and I’m not in any position to do anything, but I can still form an opinion of what I think the people at the top for the fans can do, same as others can ask PL and the board what can they don’t? What’s the difference?

  4. foghorn leghorn on

    a big YES to the occasional friday night soccerball match

     

     

    the celtic end will be full next week so no problem there

     

     

    and the pubs will be full of tims much to the annoyance of resident huns

     

     

    cannae wait

  5. Alfred Finnbogason scored his first goal for 28 weeks. His third goal of the season.

     

     

    Damn you Peter Lawwell for not paying 6 million for this goal machine!

  6. SydneyTim

     

     

    09:52 on 25 March, 2015

     

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    Yer right enough….it was pay at the gate…am getting mixed-up wi the Real Madrid game at CP were I had a ticket and, didny get to use it coz…couldny get in through the turnstyles as the queues were miles long so, went roon to the houses at the Rangers end and, in the back gardens…ladders were lined over-hanging the garden walls with a drop into the ground if ye were fast enough afore cops came…always remember…there was guy taking £2 off ye to run up the ladder and drop down…think the guy collecting the money made his first £million just before half time:)

  7. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    MURDOCHAULDANDHAY

     

     

    Existing shareholders will see their current holdings diluted by half,in addition to the 70% they have already lost.

     

     

    At this rate,Sally is gonna end up losing money,despite only paying 1p a pop for his,the puir sowel.

     

     

    I wonder how much the Easdales have lost so far? Must be a right few bob.

  8. I did suggest recently, in jest of course.

     

    That the way to sort those bigots and cowards, was for a blazing saddles type punch up on Glasgow Green.

     

    Would that be asking too much:)

     

     

     

    HH

  9. BIG-CUP-WINNERS

     

     

    09:57 on 25 March, 2015

     

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    I was there that night as well…in the run-up to the 4-2 gemme.

     

    HH

  10. KEVJ DD

     

     

    Murdo screamer…..Ten men won the league.

     

    Me and the bhoys wore out the “We are the Champions”

     

    Magic.

     

     

     

    HH

  11. BIG-CUP-WINNERS on

    Timaloy29

     

     

    Suppose that happens when a player goes to a different team and environ.

     

     

    Have half an idea that we will swap the Serb for Alfie.

  12. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family

     

     

    09:57 on 25 March, 2015

     

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    I remember it well…went to loads of games on that bus wi yer bros…

     

    dont tell them a telt ye:)

     

     

    Btw…in the cup final ye mention…one of the unsung heroes in Celtic’s history…imho…Paul Wilson…played just after losing his mum and, scored a couple of goals…that was heroic…imho

     

     

    Hail Hail

  13. PS

     

    I’m talking about leaders of Celtic fan groups and Celtic supporters, and you are making it personal with me, I wonder why that is?

     

     

    Is it only the board, PL and the club who get criticised in here or can we all have a say on others who are not doing what we think they should be, I must say these groups sit back and only wait till it suits there agenda, can you imagine the thought of the RT saying anything about the GB? Oh my god there would be carnage and body bags all over the place, as I said know your enemy when you support Celtic.

  14. Read a good article earlier about Johansen where he basically says to the interviewer, why I are you even mentioning me leaving Celtic when I’m so happy here.

     

     

    Good on ye son.

  15. The Green Man

     

     

    10:05 on 25 March, 2015

     

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    One of the best nights of my life fella – Hail Hail

     

     

    Easily the best performance from the Jungle..ever.

  16. Perhaps the SFA should consider how the public perceive the SFA executive when they waste time and resources on such pathetic pursuits.

  17. KEV J DD

     

     

    That 4-2 game….when the huns equalised to make it 2-2….Bobby Russell I think.

     

    I slumped…gutted, and sat down on the terracing….distraught.

     

    This old guy next to me…..grabbed me back up on my feet….and said to me.

     

    “Don’t worry son, the Celts will still beat this mob”

     

    There was 9 minutes left…..and guess what…..hee,hee, he was right.

     

    Ya beauty.

     

    Sheer Magic

     

     

    HH

  18. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    THEGREENMAN et al

     

     

    Colin Jackson scored my favourite ever Celtic goal that night.

  19. murdochauldandhay & wee oscar

     

     

    09:52 on 25 March, 2015

     

    Sevco to announce a £10,000,000, new share offer!

     

     

    Good luck with that then I hope it’s as successful

     

    as the last one:)

     

     

    Fleece me once shame on you fleece me twice I really am a

     

    thick Hun

     

     

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3010296/Rangers-shareholders-planning-10m-rights-issue-start-season.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

     

     

    ——–

     

    Wouldn’t it have been cheaper and easier for them just to buy a money printing machine.

     

    Only cost is paper for it.

     

    Churns out pure HUNners of squillions of scottish dollars.

     

     

    Oh wait. They tried that already via masterton and BoS and they still went bust.

     

     

    Silly Hunny Bunnies

     

     

    HH jamesgang

  20. BMCUWP

     

     

    Loved that bud…..the roar that went up in the jungle at that moment…..will live with me forever.

     

     

     

    HH

  21. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family

     

     

    09:57 on 25 March, 2015

     

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    The main stand was were alot of the singing for Celtic fans started at Hampden coz, Celtic fans were uncovered so, the Celtic end terracing a lot of the time, took their ‘cue’ from the main stand…we were treated as the absolute underdogs in those days….I’m glad its all changed these days:)

     

    Cesars last game at Hampden…Celts win the SC.

     

    The next season…nae Cesar…Huns win the Treble.

     

    KK’s last game at Hampden…Celts win the SC.

     

    The next season…well, ye know the rest….

     

    Hail Hail

  22. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    KevJ

     

    the eldest of the brothers is back in blantyre causing mayhem as only he can..

     

    walking into teddies with his Celtic shirts etc…8))

  23. F.A.B. Virgil (WATRC) on

    TD67

     

     

    You ascribe more power and influence to me than I have. I (think) I know only one other regular poster on here (met at a FAC event). I am not a member of the CSA, ACSC or CST. I have no agenda.

     

     

    I do not know or work with any ‘leaders’ and I don’t know any ‘clique’ personalities.

     

     

    You are bumping your gums re the RST. I’m just saying if you decide to do more than that I’d be happy to support you.

     

     

    No spin, no agendas…

     

     

    Did you not have one of your wee spats with HT re entry to a representative meeting? If I have got that historical spat wrongly phrased…happy to be corrected.

     

     

    JFDI

     

     

    HH

  24. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family

     

     

    10:21 on 25 March, 2015

     

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    Hahahahaha….Rhock-on Tommy:)

     

     

    Is teddies still being run by big Stan and the flying pig?

  25. F.A.B. Virgil (WATRC) on

    Kevjungle

     

     

    cause your lost and lonely which is why you keep coming on here demanding others make change?

     

     

    HH

  26. I also remember quite vividly…..the massive crowd at the 1977 League Cup Final at Hamdump.

     

    They say officially the attendance was something like 92,000……Imo, there were loads more…..the crush was scary, really tight.

     

    Unfortunately….that big geek fae Aberdeen, Davie Robb score the winner.

     

    Am I right about the size of the crowd?

     

     

     

    HH

  27. F.A.B. Virgil (WATRC) on

    Anyways demanders of change who sit on their own hands…

     

     

    aff oot for my morning constitutional…….. back improving

     

     

    HH

  28. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    KevJ

     

    flying pig left a couple of years ago, needless to say I haven’t been in for a few years

  29. TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on

    bobby murdoch’s curled-up winklepickers

     

     

    10:13 on 25 March, 2015

     

    THEGREENMAN et al

     

     

    Colin Jackson scored my favourite ever Celtic goal that night.

     

    ………………………….

     

    I thought he was slightly offside, myself. :-))

  30. F.A.B. Virgil (WATRC)

     

     

    10:24 on 25 March, 2015

     

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    Nahhh….no demanding anything….not in any position to demand anything….but, I know that…right?…what about you?