Let’s be clear, you cannot punish a player on the basis that he has made a comment which is only offensive, offence is subjective, highly so in Scottish football, where thousands await the opportunity.
Nor can you punish a player for a derogatory remark which may offend, especially if the remark does not call into question the probity of the subject. “Hearts are rotten, we beat them easily twice this season”, is a derogatory remark and will offend some Hearts fans, but it also falls into the category of being a fair opinion.
And without pointing out the obvious, you cannot offend the dead. John Guidetti and the club are right to contest this ridiculous charge, which by context, clearly refers to a team no longer with us.
I was absolutely astonished to read that newco (and former oldco) director, Paul Murray, explained Dave King’s absence from newco’s recent share as he is waiting until the SFA “have completed their review of Dave’s status before he can fully participate in the future of the Club”.
The SFA have no issue whatsoever in Dave King investing heavily in newco, or in owning all shares. Indeed, King is already the largest shareholder, which has attracted no attention from the football authorities.
The prospect of King sloping off if the SFA judge him not Fit and Proper (which I think they will), is a fabulous twist in the work of this legendary non-executive director of a dead club. He sat on the oldco board which paid EBTs for so many years, he stayed while they made no provision for the HMRC tax case, plunging into the transfer market instead. Now he awaits the whim of the SFA before deciding to invest, having led newco away from their primary source of funding.
What a star.
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EC67
You are possibly right but last week’s cup replay is the last SFA tournament I will buy a ticket for. I won’t miss Hampden.
auldheid-sounds cryptic but promising …?
World peace – it’s depressing is what it is…
bmcuwp
We probably all know some that we would class as huns and some that we would class as Rangers(In Liquidation) fans.
The ones that i would not call huns are the ones that are just pretty normal guys going to watch their football team and i could actually talk to normally with about football, but there are few of them.
Doing that with someone i class as a hun is not possible because they are the obnoxious, aggressive, arrogant, ignorant and often violent ones.
I do not hate ordinary Rangers(In Liquidation)fans.
What i do bother about though, is a persons character and behaviour and huns are awful people.
I hate THEM for how they are and how they act, without knowing anything about their religious belief.
Awful people.
Stairheedrammy
20:46 on
24 March, 2015
What’s the purpose of the staged Vincent Lunny comments on the citing of JG? He isn’t doing that off his own back and it smacks of SFA subterfuge. Are they changing tack on the basis of the complaint now that Celtic have queried it?
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I think he has moved on, replaced by Tony McGlennan,who with the Ciftci and Butcher incidents on his CV looks a lightweight.
There again perhaps he is/was susceptible to a bit of plea bargaining!!
Sixtaeseven
None taken.
Agree wholeheartedly btw that Celtic need to Confront this head on. Time for half a loaf reaction dead in the water.
HH
Auldheid
22:25 on
24 March, 2015
thanks
HH
CRC
excathedra44
22:32 on 24 March, 2015Stairheedrammy20:46 on24 March, 2015What’s the purpose of the staged Vincent Lunny comments on the citing of JG? He isn’t doing that off his own back and it smacks of SFA subterfuge. Are they changing tack on the basis of the complaint now that Celtic have queried it?=================================================I think he has moved on, replaced by Tony McGlennan,who with the Ciftci and Butcher incidents on his CV looks a lightweight.There again perhaps he is/was susceptible to a bit of plea bargaining!!
Bhoys it sounds like that fud Stuart Dougal getting wheeled out to defend Juventus tactics last season(pick a game,pick a season).Get a guy in with a Timmy sounding name,………i think we know the rest by now.
TR
My daughter is marrying a Rangers supporter this September. There is no way he is a hun, he would not be accepted into my family if he was. :)
the exiled tim
Hope you are well.
The Herald and The Sunday Herald are different newspapers. For example The Sunday Herald supported the yes campaign and vigorously and unilaterally attacked the unionists for the George Square riots on the evening after the Referendum.
Auldheid at 22.00
I would just like to say thanks for that post.
Sometimes this blog is infuriating.
Sometimes it is great fun.
Then there are times when it is thought provoking, informative, and even maybe moves the debate forward. Your post was one of these times.
Cheers.
excathedra4422:32 on 24 March, 2015Stairheedrammy2
I mean Vincent and Tony will sort things honestly……won’t they….
the ex getting a free lunch to back up the establishment;otherwise they would never had got the gig in the first place.
DD
I agree but unless Celtic FC refuse to play the SFA game, Celtic minded people will buy tickets, thereby negating any attempted protest.
All I am saying is as of now, we are locked into winning the treble.
The most grievous bodily harm those who hate us can endure is for us to win the treble.
From that position, Treble winners, we can wield some influence, maybe even a bhoycott.
EC67
RobertTressell
22:31 on 24 March, 2015
World peace – it’s depressing is what it is…
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Roberto be afraid when there is World Peace. ;))
I’m sure you know what I’m jibbering about.
Thought control is already being implemented.
Go outside and enjoy Nature, dinnae be getting bogged down in this CQN town, is my maist humble of advice.
DD
There are those who support the dead team and then there are huns who use the dead team as a vehicle to channel their hatred of us.ie they hate us more than they support their club
Hh fellah
THUNDERROAD 2231
Exactly,mate. No place for huns in polite company. No problem wi the real supporters though.
DELANEYSDUNKY. 2238
Might be interesting at the reception unless his family is also hun-free.
Regardless,wish them well from me.
!!Bada Bing!!
22:31 on
24 March, 2015
auldheid-sounds cryptic but promising …?
Everything is documented, a detailed letter its been run past a QC who polished it up but he cannot deliver. That needs a solicitor
Finding one of repute who is not too busy or conflicted is reason for delay.
Captain Beefheart.
11:42 on24 March, 2015
There is only one guy I know who hates Scotland more than some on here. He is a young Polish mate from the east of that country. He despises benefits, the whorish women (his words) etc. So he went home to his pig farm. Thing is, he has to come back. Oh well. He doesn’t like central Poland either mind you. Only the east..
1.There is only one guy I know who hates Scotland more than some on here</i
In all my years, I don’t remember anyone saying here – he hates Scotland. I could give many examples of what the Scots (CQNers) don’t like in Scotland but this is completely different story.
What’s your point in giving the example of the Pole who hates Scotland more than SOME on here?
Are you trying to wind people up and rise animosity against the Poles who come to earn money but they hate the place where they work?
2.He is a young Polish mate from the east of that country..
Are you suggesting the fact he comes “from the east of that country” which is closer to your roots that Russia is means he is wiser than those from central Poland?
I assure you there is no animosities between the sides of the country. If there is something, it’s not between the east and central Poland. It’s something that we can see in the other countries – cultural differences, language, simple social splitting – a village and a city.
3. He despises benefits, the whorish women (his words) etc..
So, he despises benefits but… he leaves his family and farm and moves to the country he hates, for the benefit reason?
The whorish man that Pole is (my words).
the whorish women (his words).
The order of the words and phrase you put after this one suggest he said that about women from country that is …. Oh , No!!! There must be women in your life Captain Beefheart. Is this guy still your friend ?
Huge majority will understand why I’m not going to develop this one.
4.So he went home to his pig farm..
The farms in Poland are generally very small and I think 99 percent of them are run by one man who is the head of the family. The Pole from your heartbreaking story is young.Is he married? Does he have children? Did he leave his very small children to take care about his pigs and he (poor guy) flew to the country he hates to earn some money? Well, I hope, if I’m right, his children are really small and young and they don’t have to miss the school for the benefit of the pigs. Benefit, benefit, again benefit. I hope in a couple of years when a young Pole children are 6 and have to go to school , the Pole is back to his lovely eastern Poland.
To be more serious, I feel the pain of the Pole when he must make a choice – it’s YOUR Scotland or the pigs, the pigs or YOUR Scotland, Scotland or the pigs….Well it’s hard choice to make.
5.Thing is, he has to come back..
Why? He needs to get more money from the country he hates? He can’t sleep because his wise pigs from eastern Poland know he is not their anymore and they scream during all nights and days – Go home ya Hun? He can’t sleep?
6.Only the east.
Yes, I agree.
Putin is the answer, for the world today,
above Him there’s no other,
Putin is the way
if anybody is looking for a film to watch then checkout 71.this film is a nine out of ten in anybodies book,currently sitting at 99% on rotten tomatoes.
story of a young soldier from derby who is sent to belfast in 71 is left behind enemy lines by mistake and has to survive the night.the army cant trust the army and the ira cant trust the ira and he is in the middle of it.
starring jack o connel who just won the rising star award at the baftas.i wont even say enjoy because that is a given.
EC67
I like your idea of winning the SFA Cup this May, then refuse to defend it next season. No chance our PLC would sanction that scenario though.
checkout the trailer on youtube.
Gearoid
I have Rangers supporting friends, was Best man to one. They support their team no differently to me. They would not be my friends if they were huns.
Hope you are well G. You getting over for a match soon?
WC
I thought they were the same group, have to appeal to all sorts kinda thing :)
Whatever, I still believe there is an organised campaign ongoing against the club.
And I also believe that this a golden chance to bring about change, either now or never IMO.
HH
DD
Your going to convert him aint ya? :)
BMCUW
He is from a Catholic family. Both my sons call him John the Tim. Will be all good thanks. ;)
DD
Just Suprised that you have friends lol. Flying over for matches mostly now. Next one might have bit of time for few beers was going to be semi. Def going to make a couple after split.
HH
!!Bada Bing!!
22:43 on
24 March, 2015
excathedra4422:32 on 24 March, 2015Stairheedrammy2
I mean Vincent and Tony will sort things honestly……won’t they….
the ex getting a free lunch to back up the establishment;otherwise they would never had got the gig in the first place.
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Irrespective of their names which draws conclusions,these guys were/are there because they made a conscious decision to join the Organisation,so unless they came from the Moon they knew the background of the Organisation and what would be expected of them.
I do not see the Compliance Officer as some kind of untouchable Ombudsman who is responsible to some higher authority external to the SFA,wish he was but until that time arrives expect ongoing irrational outpourings.
6 yrs in Law School to watch Fitba videos………….Beltrami weeps.
TR
He watched Celtic beat Barca with my 2 sons and 2 daughters. All 5 wearing the Hoops. He is ripe for a conversion! :)
Zbysek,
Just logged on. What a strange post. Relax. Have a good night.
Gearoid
Will meet for a beer after the split hopefully.
DELANEYSDUNKY
Highly unusual,sadly. I’ve never met a Catholic in Scotland who supports Rangers.
My wee mate in Swindon does though. As do his three lads.
They used to wear their Rangers strips under their altarboy gear,and at school.
Fair play to them of course. His daughter is Celtic-daft,btw!
DD
Remember you posting about your future hun in law lol on here couple weeks back. A malevolent Uncle influence from what I recall. As you say ripe for the picking and no better man to do it.
Thunder Road,
was good to share a beer with you on Saturday,
hope you had fun,be good to do it again
DD
That’s a date.
A few points for you Zbysek.
My friend is 22. He always defines himself as being from the east. He works hard. I taught him a little English. Even if he took benefits, what business would that be of mine?
Calm down. I enjoy your posts as I have a lot of links to Poland. My post had nothing whatsoever to do with Putin or Russia.
No more about a trivial matter from me. Good night.
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And that’s the way we like it…
I think it’s absolutely essential (and years too late) that Celtic engage the services of a top flight PR firm, account managed by someone in the know, sharp as a tack and hard as feck.
We are witnessing a concerted attack on the club, undoubtedly orchestrated by the huns but eagerly facilitated by their MSM poodles. It aims to sully our fans, our players, the club’s honestly won achievements and it’s very standing. It’s an assault on both the soul of the club and it’s business. It is an intolerable state of affairs that just would not happen in any other country in the world. The most successful, the richest, the best supported and best run club in the country, with the greatest international reputation, is being blackguarded by Sevco because it needs such conflict in order to keep it’s own customers interested – all the more so as another year in the doldrums beckons, and latest saviours turn out to be full of wind and pish – while the MSM are happy to play ball because it’s target market is the same people. To do nothing is unacceptable.
The right PR people can school the players into saying something and nothing at the same time, winding down the few minutes they have a mic stuck in their faces with banalities (more so than usual). Lots of people have pointed out Ronny seems to just swat these pumpkins away at his pressers but he shouldn’t have to put up with such sh it in the first place, and they WILL get him in the end. He should have a clued up PR guy beside at such occasions who will field the crap about flares etc. Who is the person responsible for the anti Celtic bias at BBC Scotland? Seriously, who is it? We know the identities of scummy journos, we know who hun newspaper editors are/have been: who is responsible – currently responsible – for allowing/sanctioning/approving this, and why isn’t Lawwell sitting down with him? And his opposite number at STV? Has he sought redress from Sky over that odious little sh it Tanner?
The right PR people can publicly take the huns and SFA to task over the real examples of sectarianism in Scottish football and their refusal to address it. The right PR people can damn the shameful wall of silence surrounding the huns reveling in child abuse. The right PR people can help Celtic fight back in a way those at the club simply can’t. It’s essential.
Roy C and Lucy
Viele grusse zum geburtstag!
HH