Let’s be clear, you cannot punish a player on the basis that he has made a comment which is only offensive, offence is subjective, highly so in Scottish football, where thousands await the opportunity.
Nor can you punish a player for a derogatory remark which may offend, especially if the remark does not call into question the probity of the subject. “Hearts are rotten, we beat them easily twice this season”, is a derogatory remark and will offend some Hearts fans, but it also falls into the category of being a fair opinion.
And without pointing out the obvious, you cannot offend the dead. John Guidetti and the club are right to contest this ridiculous charge, which by context, clearly refers to a team no longer with us.
I was absolutely astonished to read that newco (and former oldco) director, Paul Murray, explained Dave King’s absence from newco’s recent share as he is waiting until the SFA “have completed their review of Dave’s status before he can fully participate in the future of the Club”.
The SFA have no issue whatsoever in Dave King investing heavily in newco, or in owning all shares. Indeed, King is already the largest shareholder, which has attracted no attention from the football authorities.
The prospect of King sloping off if the SFA judge him not Fit and Proper (which I think they will), is a fabulous twist in the work of this legendary non-executive director of a dead club. He sat on the oldco board which paid EBTs for so many years, he stayed while they made no provision for the HMRC tax case, plunging into the transfer market instead. Now he awaits the whim of the SFA before deciding to invest, having led newco away from their primary source of funding.
What a star.
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Good documentary on BBC2 about the Irish/Scots alliance, well before the reformation and Daily Mail :)
As we all know the JG song and other stuff is a deliberate tactic to deflect attention AWAY from GOVAN.
We all know that , yes?
We all know they are in King Sized doo doo, Mike has them by the short n curlies, their team is crap, Ibrox is falling apart, and 3 years later, naebudy is even being told who owns their ground, etc.
If only… if only one Scottish journalist would ask the pertinent questions, and there are so many.
If only… our club seizes this opportunity and finally asserts itself as THE power broker.
WE should be calling the shots, not CO & Co.
C’mon Celtic FC, go for the jugular…
gearoid1998
21:23 on
24 March, 2015
Dena29
More Benny Hill…… apologies no offence intended but true story and their appearance on TV reminded me of it.
oh no offence taken
when I read it I just saw Dick Emery
HH
My daughter tells me she refers to all her friends as “hun,,,could she be accused of offending her friends?
Paul67 et al
It is interesting that David Gill was elected, 43-10, by UEFA as FIFA Vice-President as opposed to being appointed by the four ‘Home’ Nations. After Jim Boyce, IFA, the order agreed, and confirmed in 2011, was supposed to be FAW, SFA, FA, and IFA every four years. The Welsh President, Trevor Hughes is upset at the FA in that he was next in line for Buggins Turn. Gill is not the FA President, but of course he was in part responsible, along with Alex Ferguson, for the rise, and the sale of MUFC. His role no doubt will be to try and get England rubber-stamped for the 2026 World Cup, or earlier if things go pearshaped in Qatar. Where that leaves the SFA is anybody’s guess, would have been next in line after Gill, but could face a UEFA vote against say the FA candidate, which could, I think, be Gill again, ie not Gilligan. How many in UEFA would vote for the SFA against the FA? My guess, not many!
CRC
If you are referring to my comment you have obviously not read it properly.
If not I apologise.
EC67
HUNdreads of Huns.
Thanks to whoever posted the link to Joe Strummer and Anarchy in Manchesterr shows.
gearoid1998 Dena29
You guys on the right site ?
I would refer the RST to John Reid’s Statement to the Celtic AGM in 2008 when The Famine Song WAS deemed racist. Just to set the record straight.
John Reid’s Statement at Celtic AGM 2008
Why did you decide to speak out about ‘The Famine Song’ and is it important that the club make sure that our supporters protect the integrity of Celtic’s name?
I spoke out about it because this is a pretty vile song and I don’t think that any reasonable person who has read the words of this song can see it as anything other than a pretty vicious, racist song. It combines racism and sectarianism and goes beyond a lot of other things that we have seen in the past. That’s one of the reasons why I spoke out and I also come from Irish and Scottish descent myself, so that’s the main reason.
But there is a bigger and wider reason as well and that is, the nature of this club. We are proud of the fact that we have Scottish origins and Irish heritage and we are never going to deny that. We will defend that and that is not a cause for shame, it’s a cause for recognition and celebration. Indeed our very name ‘Celtic’ is about the unity of the Scottish and Irish people. It stands against those who would divide, discriminate and oppose those two entities. And because we start from that basis of the unity of peoples then we have always been open and inclusive as a club.
That’s why traditionally we have never discriminated. That’s why our board, our shareholders, our footballers and our footballing heroes come from all sorts of different backgrounds, religions, ethnic groups and do so internationally. That’s why I said last year that whatever differences we have when we come into this club we leave them at the door because we believe truly, in a Scotland that is one bit of many cultures and is way beyond now being Scots and Irish. That is our stance, therefore we have to speak out when we see racism or sectarianism being practised and of course, if we are going to do that we have to practise what we preach.
We have to be careful, from our own point of view and that’s why I am absolutely delighted that our fans in recent years have had accolades from the world football authorities, from the European football authorities and let me say when I point out that there may be a minority who are transgressing our own rules, that they are our own rules. I don’t know any Celtic fans who have been chanting racist slogans or anything of that nature, so I am not comparing like with like here. But I am saying that we have got to be whiter than white and that we have to explain to and educate everybody at this club, including that tiny minority which at away games sometimes leaves us exposed to those who would attempt to say that we are all the same. We aren’t all the same , but we have to make sure that that is evident to everybody. That’s the nature of Celtic Football Club.
Now read what Sir David Murray said in response.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/3492846/Rangers-chairman-Sir-David-Murray-accuses-Celtic-counterpart-John-Reid-over-Famine-Song-attack-Football.html
From the perspective of history its an absolute hoot. e.g
” and I think there’s a strong argument, especially in the west of Scotland that to have a politician in charge of a football club is verging on the dangerous. ”
that from Sir David Murray, killer of Rangers FC and vandal of Scottish football.
Its a belter.
The panel to investigate Gudetti will be led by Brigadier Hogmanay Melchett.
He has experience of jurisprudence and in the absence of Nimmo Smith, he will be an ideal judge.
Sixtaeseven
Commenting on a TV programme. Had already commented on HUN/Guidetti debacle several times earlier. Didn’t realise there was a template for a blog.
HH
The hypocrisy of the Sevconians is beyond belief.
They are up in arms when Alex Thomson inadvertantly offends them by posting the clip with John Greig walking away, saying it is disrespectful of those who died in the Ibrox disaster.
Yet, week after week, these same pathetic individuals, by the thousand, loudly proclaim their great desire to wade up to their knees in fenian blood.
A hypocrisy of huns.
sixtaeseven – Gardez la Foi
21:50 on 24 March, 2015
As we all know the JG song and other stuff is a deliberate tactic to deflect attention AWAY from GOVAN.
We all know that , yes?
We all know they are in King Sized doo doo, Mike has them by the short n curlies, their team is crap, Ibrox is falling apart, and 3 years later, naebudy is even being told who owns their ground, etc.
If only… if only one Scottish journalist would ask the pertinent questions, and there are so many.
If only… our club seizes this opportunity and finally asserts itself as THE power broker.
WE should be calling the shots, not CO & Co.
C’mon Celtic FC, go for the jugular…
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You made so many points for Celtic not to go for the jugular, take every last Chess Piece out of the game, to be sure, to be sure?
Be Relentless like Ronny on the field howevaaaah.
Campbell not selected?
Whistle Blower?
http://www.tsfm.scot/did-stewart-regan-ken-then-wit-we-ken-noo/comment-page-21/#comment-50610
An enlightenment of huns…..
I read rangersmedia, I don’t care who knows it:-) I like to read them arguing and talking crap, telling themselves all the press are anti rangers and hate them..but jeeze some on our sites are just as bad.. the press are out to get us and only us..its anti Celtic !? No the press and media are out to create news to sell newspapers, to get hits, to sell advertising etc..they pick on the two biggest news sources..its not rocket science or anti anyone.. Rant over ;-)
” He sat on the oldco board which paid EBTs for so many years, he stayed while they made no provision for the HMRC tax case, plunging into the transfer market instead. ”
Atta bhoy Paul.
You tell them
Vive the international break…
… next match:
St Mirren vs Celtic Friday 03 Apr, 2015 19:45.
Friday 19:45, vive the SFA !!!
Celtic Mac
21:54 on
24 March, 2015
Paul67 et al
How many in UEFA would vote for the SFA against the FA? My guess, not many!
*or his successor mcrae of brora huns FFS
Eurochamps67
21:55 on
24 March, 2015
No need to apologise, I was just thinking 10 in a row first with few trebles first.:-)
Seriously, not sure whether bhoycotts would work.
Celtic have to take this fight direct to SFA.
Res12 seems also appears to have gone quiet. Not sure if any Res12bhoys on, to provide an update
HH
CRC
Soh Crah ToA
This is just part of an ongoing organised campaign against the club.
The latest bollix from the rst was taken up by the Herald, you know the one, the paper that many on here contributed to for the add.
Someone is pulling the strings, me thinks Jack Irvine is alive and kicking for a few sheckles.
This is a golden chance to bring them down, CO not getting the job at uefa, and his tenure about to end at the sfa, change is in the offing, change for the better, or the status quo, go on Celtic, you know you want to……or do you, that mi amigos is the $64K question.
HH
Auldheid
22:00 on
24 March, 2015
Did John Reid then not retire soon after to be replaced by the placid Mr Bankier?
How is res12 progessing?
HH
CRC
Am I the only one who sees the irony in us expressing “surprise” at the Guidetti citation. Not half as surprised as I was when we originally knocked back Resolution 12 ? So is Peter knocking back Kings public coronation ? I dont think so ? A small fine and 1000 more defiant ST sales
The Tim reaper – ironic how the huns were a nomadic people while the people getting offended by the word follow a club that can’t find a nomad…..
Bobby Tait to be MC at the RST bash at the Crowne Plaza.
Well, that’s a turn up for the books, eh?
Graeme Spiers always has a wee laugh about Tait’s stories regarding his heroes,still funny Graeme,?
#notparanoidenough
funnily enough, i have been to many ‘smokers nights’,with ex refs and players,still to hear a pro Celtic or any other club ex referee…..
….an apron of huns ……..
The SFA are essentially the administrative wing of Rangers, so anything goes.
If the SFA and their boot boys the RST keep this going , then we will be forced to administer a proper gubbing on the field of play, if the supremacists that have taken over them can keep the circus going.
HH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg7ZsOFSV7c&list=RDvg7ZsOFSV7c
Just wondered if this will offend any Huneys
Celticrollercoaster
You have E- mail.
Awerabest PJ
Tontine Tim
Whoops! I was forgetting we were talking about the SFA!
tonydonnelly67
19:25 on 24 March, 2015Well I’m off to watch a couple of movies, I’ll get back tomorrow and find that Celtic fans will have had leadership to take on the RST, aye right.
Leadership should come from the Club.
Celticrollercoaster supporting Shay,our bhoy wonder along the way
Ran into a delivery problem. Every law firm of repute seems to be involved with ex RFC people in one way or another and are conflicted.
However we have contingency and once delivery takes place we can be more open.
petec
Like most fans, I don’t know what’s going on, but seriously I think here the SFA are in the process of scoring a major own goal.
On the outside, giving the impression that their organization is squeaky clean, on the inside they have a different agenda.
Unfortunately, only the bampots are aware.
Because unfortunately, most of the fitba going public still believe the Sun, DR, Evening Times et al.
Time for Celtic FC to take this head on…
goodnight Timland
HH
It is Great seeing Ronny trying to make all his players feel as safe as possible to be able to play to the very Best of their abilities. Neil commented that to be a top player, most of it was mental. That may well be true, I think he is likely right, he just had a lot mair mental strength than most players.
So…. The president of the SFA whom charged JG was once on the board of Rangers …. who had a signing policy ?…
Remind me what that policy was again
gearoid1998
sorry pal.
no offence.
Hail hail
bong.here is the news. pensioners giving cameron a hard time.plane crash,terrible.angelina jolie who has previously had a double mastectomy has had her ovaries removed.is it just me or is that something that isnt news,what will it be next angelina jolie has had her anus removed.
and finally…a nomad has been found wandering aimlessly around govan way looking for an owner.
there will be another update same time tomorrow.