Referring to a team no longer with us

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Let’s be clear, you cannot punish a player on the basis that he has made a comment which is only offensive, offence is subjective, highly so in Scottish football, where thousands await the opportunity.

Nor can you punish a player for a derogatory remark which may offend, especially if the remark does not call into question the probity of the subject.  “Hearts are rotten, we beat them easily twice this season”, is a derogatory remark and will offend some Hearts fans, but it also falls into the category of being a fair opinion.

And without pointing out the obvious, you cannot offend the dead.  John Guidetti and the club are right to contest this ridiculous charge, which by context, clearly refers to a team no longer with us.

I was absolutely astonished to read that newco (and former oldco) director, Paul Murray, explained Dave King’s absence from newco’s recent share as he is waiting until the SFA “have completed their review of Dave’s status before he can fully participate in the future of the Club”.

The SFA have no issue whatsoever in Dave King investing heavily in newco, or in owning all shares.  Indeed, King is already the largest shareholder, which has attracted no attention from the football authorities.

The prospect of King sloping off if the SFA judge him not Fit and Proper (which I think they will), is a fabulous twist in the work of this legendary non-executive director of a dead club.  He sat on the oldco board which paid EBTs for so many years, he stayed while they made no provision for the HMRC tax case, plunging into the transfer market instead.  Now he awaits the whim of the SFA before deciding to invest, having led newco away from their primary source of funding.

What a star.

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  1. the exiled tim

     

     

    On that we are in complete agreement.

     

     

    The target has to be the SFA so the fact that they are drawing us into a fight is no bad thing in my view.

     

     

    We have a few surprises ready and this gives us the opportunity.

  2. Delaneys Dunky on

    Gearoid

     

     

    His dad died when he was a baby. His stepdad took him to Ibrox and was a wrong wan. My two sons and I are working on John the Tim’s conversion. ;))

  3. world peace is none of your business

     

     

    Just watched the trailer, looks good and has been getting rave reviews as you said.

     

     

    I’ll keep an eye out for it on m/tube. HH

     

     

    DD, grandkids defos Celtic :)))

  4. I once tutored a kid from linwood who was Catholic and supported them.

     

    Apparently got a blue top as his chosen present for his First Comminion.

     

     

    Could never fathom it. Up to your knees in the blood of our own. Go figure.

     

     

    Perhaps explains why he needed a history tutor!

     

     

    Night Timdom and of course any lurking Hunny Bunnies. The former should sleep. The latter cannot, cos they’re zombies!

     

     

    HH jamesgang

  5. DD

     

    Apologies malevolent step dad influence. Definitely your grandweans will be tims (as will the step dad’s karma)

     

    Oiche mhaith DD

     

    hope Petec doing well.

  6. jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on

    To call a drink a royal dram do you pour the Drambuie over the malt or the malt over the Drambuie?

  7. world peace is none of your business

     

     

    22:49 on 24 March, 2015

     

     

    if anybody is looking for a film to watch then checkout 71.this film is a nine out of ten in anybodies book,currently sitting at 99% on rotten tomatoes.

     

    story of a young soldier from derby who is sent to belfast in 71 is left behind enemy lines by mistake and has to survive the night.the army cant trust the army and the ira cant trust the ira and he is in the middle of it.

     

    starring jack o connel who just won the rising star award at the baftas.i wont even say enjoy because that is a given.

     

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    I watched it last night, it’s good so worth a watch but not a 9/10 movie in my book.

  8. Delaneys Dunky on

    Gearoid

     

     

    There was a large West Dunbartonshire CQN meet for the game on Saturday. Petec was in fine form.

     

    UTLR

  9. captain beefy

     

     

    I think Zbyszek managed to inject both humour and a relaxed state into questioning your conflation of “East Poland and hates Scots” character. Coming hot on the heels of you referring to Kiev v Zenit as a Russian Derby, I can only see a charge of “bizarre posting” as applying to your own.

     

     

    Taking the one upmanship approach of telling your critic to relax is pretty unconvincing. If you make a point you should be prepared to defend it or clarify it. Telling those that find your posts, let’s be generous and call them, puzzling at times, to relax, is a pretty unconvincing approach.

     

     

    I think you need to be more forthright and clear in your statements. A few recently have been very muddy indeed. What is it you stand for, as opposed to what you stand against?

  10. gordybhoy64

     

     

    Yeah i did and it was a pleasure to meet you.

     

     

    Hopefully we can do it again sometime soon :)

     

     

    I want to be there when you and DD see who the lightweight is!

     

     

    Just as long as it does not turn out to be me ;)

  11. Delaneys Dunky on

    CB

     

     

    My supporters bus from Knightswood in the 70s was 50/50 Catholic/Protestant.

     

    We were all Celtic supporters. No difference.

  12. gearoid1998

     

     

    23:25 on 24 March, 2015

     

     

    DD

     

    Apologies malevolent step dad influence. Definitely your grandweans will be tims (as will the step dad’s karma)

     

    Oiche mhaith DD

     

    hope Petec doing well.

     

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    I’ve cheated and got Irish Stew frae Asda maist weeks since Belfast.

     

     

    HH.

     

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    Feck the Zombie HUNS as they are Deid

     

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    Thunder Road

     

     

    23:35 on 24 March, 2015

     

     

    gordybhoy64

     

     

    Yeah i did and it was a pleasure to meet you.

     

     

    Hopefully we can do it again sometime soon :)

     

     

    I want to be there when you and DD see who the lightweight is!

     

     

    Just as long as it does not turn out to be me ;)

     

     

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    I’m up for that but will need to make sure it isnae a Saturday, a word of warning to gordybhoy64, Delaney’s can put away the drink like there isnae any tomorrow, if need be. ;)) Take the weed aff him!!!!

  13. jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/

     

     

    Wouldn’t waste a Malt on it, always ice in first, use a blend- order not important if give a wee stir, enjoy your rusty nail.

  14. Captain Beefheart on

    Delaney,

     

     

    The Celtic support has grown a lot in non traditional Celtic households. Especially up north. Martin O’Neill’s success helped a lot.

  15. Cosy Corner Bhoy on

    Exceptionally belated birthday wishes to Roy Croppie and his daughter! Just made it on the day

  16. Celtic need to take on this corrupt SFA once and for all!

     

    if Lawell is part of it, then wtf is he doin!

     

     

     

    Stevie for the Voice! Vote Stevie!

  17. Delaneys Dunky on

    CB

     

     

    All my Protestant pals in 70s Knightswood were Tims because of Jock Stein’s style of football and success.

  18. jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on

    Thanks Bhoys Ive tried it one way now ill try it the other way!! Malts Old Pulteney 12yr old btw.

     

     

     

    H H

  19. Delaneys Dunky on

    Cosy Corner Bhoy

     

     

    Was great to link up with you and your 3 lovely weans on Saturday. ;))

  20. What is the Stars on

    71 The Movie

     

     

    Went to see it a few months back and …its good,enjoyable but I thought it tried to squeeze too much in

     

    All this is supposed to happened over one 24 hour period

     

    The again as she who must be obeyed said….its a movie not a documentary

  21. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    DELANEYSDUNKY

     

     

    Feeling was mutual,mate. Same to follow this Saturday too…

  22. Delaneys Dunky on

    WITS

     

     

    What does the boss think about your forthcoming streak roond George Square?

     

    Is the good lady coming over to witness you making a fud of yourself? ;))

  23. Delaneys Dunky

     

     

    can I write your wedding speech for you please?

     

     

    “Some people would say we have lost a daughter……. but I see it more as we have gained a hun…”

     

     

    :-)

  24. Captain Beefheart on

    Evening WITS,

     

     

    Remember:

     

     

    One small streak for WITS… One giant laugh for Ronnykind.

  25. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    LUXCELT

     

     

    Superb,mate. I’m pretty damn sure he’ll nick that.

     

     

    It would be rude not to!

  26. What is the Stars on

    Capt Beefheart

     

     

    The ladies of Glasgow may never forgive Ronny if he does the treble…..

  27. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    WHATISTHESTARS

     

     

    Did the original wager mention winning the treble or simply winning the league?

     

     

    I thought it was the latter.

  28. Delaneys Dunky on

    BMCUW

     

     

    When I spoke to the Belfast weans on Saturday, and saw the joy on their faces at being in Paradise, I knew that I had to support the Kano Foundation more. Thankfully Lennybhoy and Sannabhoy were able to get me a ticket for the do on Saturday. :))

  29. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

     

     

    Thanks!!

     

     

    Delaneys Dunky

     

     

    -> You have to mention me in the credits if you do use it!