New manager of New York City, Ronny Delia, knows how to land a big job. He won a miracle Norwegian title with Stromsgodset and won two Scottish Premierships and a League Cup in his two years at Celtic. Since then, he has managed Valerenga, where he has not achieved anything notable.
He first came to Celtic’s attention as a potential assistant manager before being offered the top job. He delivered the obligatory titles at Celtic, and got unlucky in a few cup competitions, but conceding a late goal at home to Maribor, a debacle against Legia Warsaw before finally losing out to Malmo for a Champions League place cast a shadow over his time here.
There’s lots about the business model of the MLS I don’t get, but the move from having David Villa being managed by Patrick Vieira in 2018, to Ronny managing Gary Mackay-Steven in 2020 looks like a club beginning to live within its means.
New York are owned by City Football Group, the parent company of Manchester City, who Ronny knew prior to his appointment at Celtic.
Ronny is a clever man, he will be a better manager now than he was when he arrived in Glasgow in 2014. If he does well in New York, there’s a good chance he will end up somewhere in the Manchester City coaching setup.
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WESTCRAIGS on 7TH JANUARY 2020 9:25 PM
With all due respect
Crap IMO
HH
Test
MACJAY1 FOR NEIL LENNON on 8TH JANUARY 2020 8:04 PM
We all want the same thing pal.
ONENIGHTINLISBON on 8TH JANUARY 2020 8:16 PM
Absolutely right .
How to achieve it is the question.
CorkCelt
Regarding the Champions League, the revenue earned is somewhat layered.
The UK Market Pool is €154 Million, of which the champions of Scotland, should they qualify, earn 10%.
Should Celtic qualify for the group stages, they will earn €15.4 Million from the market pool.
For those knocked out in final qualifying, there is a fee paid of €5 Million
The “Starting Fee” for those who qualify to the group stage is €15.25 Million, which added to the UK market pool gives €30.65 Million before a ball is kicked.
Each point earned in the groups stage generated €900,000. Taking a disappointing group stage of 7 points adds €5.6 Million
The ten year coefficient payment recognises contribution to the value of European football over the period, with a staggered payment based on ranking, from 1 to 32. Number 1 gets €35 Million, Number 32 gets €1 Million. Celtic would be in the bottom quartile, and could expect around €6-8 Million.
Qualifying through to the round of 16 triggers an additional €9.5 Million,
Each home game generates around £2.5 Million in gate receipts and hospitality.
Taken in the round, a ‘poor’ group stage with 7 points delivers around €42 Million in payments from UEFA, say £36 Million, plus group stage gate receipts of around £7.5 Million, in the round say £44 Million +/- exchange rates.
Revenue from the Europa League is set at 20% of the UCL, so a similar performance in the EL would deliver around €8.4 Million in UEFA payments. Gate receipts are reduced because of the lower cost of tickets, so call it £5 Million on the gate.
Being knocked out of the UCL in the 3rd qualifying round – as per this year – means missing the play-off loser ‘prize’ of €5 Million, and a consolation of €400k.
Last season, Celtic played in 3 UCL qualifying rounds, one EL final qualifying, EL group stage plus EL round of 32. The total UEFA receipts were €10.8M, or £9.1M at current exchange rates. Add gate receipts and you’re looking at around £15 Million.
On these bases, being knocked out in final qualifying ‘costs’ the club around £25 Million, while being knocked out in earlier rounds but still qualifying for the Europa League ‘costs’ £30 Million.
Were we to fail to qualify for the EL, having been earlier knocked out of UCL qualifying, the ‘cost’ would be in the order of £44 Million.
Sources UEFA and Celtic plc
Hope that’s helpful.
TBB
NB Haven’t spell checked or de-typoed, Apols if there are inadvertent errors.
TBB
Surely “cost” should read “income”
Or to be more exact “loss of income”
TBB – nice work. And a reminder if one was needed why TRFC are willing to go all in to get a slice of that pie.
I think the most frustrating part of the transfer windows is that we gamble on getting to the promised land by the skin of our teeth.
We think it is madness, the board think it is being prudent.
Not for the first time I am posting regarding Scotty Sinclair. I am gutted to see him leave as I know there is a player in there. He has proved this point.
However he must have gone downhill drastically as to be almost completely useless when we consider who ” performed” in his absence.
Football is a team game and a tried and trusted player is essential to every squad.
Was his lack of game time a purely tactical decision made for the best interests of our football team ?
Or was it a non football, personal, vindictive moneyball decision to the detriment of our history making aspirations.
HH.
GREENPINATA on 8TH JANUARY 2020 8:42 PM
I find it hard to believe that Scott had regressed so much that he was behind Lewis Morgan when it came to playing as a striker.
We will never know the full story but surely the manager should be picking the best guys for the job?
Remember when big Bobo fell out with the management team, he wasn’t played when we really could have done with him. this smacks of something similar…
Scotty Sinclair was one of the key players in our quest for a historic treble treble.
Gene,
Yip, ‘cost’ is in inverted commas because that’s how it was presented originally. It is though better described as ‘missed prize money’ or ‘revenue impact’ or some such.
Also, the numbers do not factor for bonuses – playing, management, CEO or otherwise – or costs of participating.
Sevco charging the Gullabillies £10,to watch a bounce game in Dubai…
ONENIGHTINLISBON
Bobo played in Bratislave when we lost 5 goals to Artmedia.
Thereafter, he didn’t figure much, we won three leagues in succession and qualified to the last 16 of the Champions League back to back.
We didn’t miss Bobo on the pitch, but I reckon we did miss his wages.
10 MORE SLEEPS ;-)
THE BATTERED BUNNET on 8TH JANUARY 2020 8:54 PM
I have a different memory on that?
Maybe getting old….
TBB
The only reason I posted the clarification is to try and make sure that it was seen as a top line figure and subject to the deduction of operating costs.
It’s still ok leaves a lot 💸
Bada
Don’t be giving PL any ideas
Reserves `55 or `56 ? Just a guess.
Wee Bertie is the only face I recognise .
Anyone know any of the others.
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/FMfcgxwGCkcKDtRlXXrfHgtNnccDGlKj?projector=1&messagePartId=0.1
Sorry totally stuffed that up.
MacJay…….”Why are we waiting, why are we waiting???”…(sung to the tune of “Why are we waiting?”)
Think Leicester are running out of idea’s. Still 1:0 to Villa😱
Weebobbycollins
If it’s a photo from 1955 he’s probably in the dark room waiting to develop it
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismaila_Soro
Then Villa concedes a stupid goal
Catman, any info on Ismaila Soro?
TBB
“On these bases, being knocked out in final qualifying ‘costs’ the club around £25 Million, while being knocked out in earlier rounds but still qualifying for the Europa League ‘costs’ £30 Million.
Were we to fail to qualify for the EL, having been earlier knocked out of UCL qualifying, the ‘cost’ would be in the order of £44 Million.”
If we take the £30M as representative of where we are over 3 years ie our footballing level in Europe (not UEFA) , how much would need to be spent on players annually over a 3 year contract not to “lose” the £30m a year by qualifying for the CL?
Allow some xfer fee costs , wages, bonuses, agent fees and no player sales income.
It is something that is probably modeled on a spreadsheet somewhere to manage the budget. Management Information Systems (MIS) or in my day of floppy discs – Lotus One Two Three and a geek – I bossed the geek)
There should certainly be enough data internally to drive it and in using it establish what costs are essential to CL qualification
You get my drift. Seville was great but the cost of the players to get us there was greater than the income they could generate from getting there. I imagine there has to be a MIS at CP.
Gene… :o)
Weebobbycollins
He’s still in there he can’t find the light switch
!!BADA BING!! on 8TH JANUARY 2020 9:26 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismaila_Soro
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Two words – Dudu Dahan
Auldheid
“how much would need to be spent on players annually over a 3 year contract not to “lose” the £30m a year by qualifying for the CL?”
I’m expecting that you already know the answer to that, and the answer does not compute on Lotus123. I think it comes up as “E12”, being too large to display.
You can shorten the odds, but you can’t reduce the probability of failure to zero.
DENIABHOY on 7TH JANUARY 2020 4:56 PM
The Blogger – good point. If there was a realistic chance of us or/and them getting into the EPL before they went bust then corporate sponsors would have been ready to pounce. Indeed HMRC would have seen it as the way of getting its money back, no? A couple of years of Sky money and it would have been business as usual.
Pure fantasy on Phil’s part I think. Not to say he is not right about us being in cahoots to keep the old firm rolling along.
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Read what Phil was referring to at http://etims.net/?p=15098 and for the basis of his thoughts. A close relationship appears to have existed based on the efforts to escape Scotland at a point when Rangers were desperate to secure CL money which was at risk because they were only in a position to do so using either tax payers money not repaid or bank loans not repaid and written off by MIH who in turn had a massive write offs by Lloyds who took over HBOS at who knows tax payers expense under pressure from Gordon Brown.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/oct/18/llyods-shareholders-mugged-by-2008-hbos-takeover-high-court-told
TBB………………
earlier…..
Top bloggin’ Bhoy.
CQN at its best,
HH.
Sinclair signs 2.5 year contract with Preston
The next Eboue Kouassi or the next Ngolo Kante. Who knows.
Can someone remind me when PL got blamed for the Hun result, I don’t remember that, so a bit confused as to where mcnut gets that idea or why he has been allowed to get away with spouting it without someone correcting him till now.
PL is getting dogs abuse for baring his arse to the SFA and finding us a seat at the back of the bus, Lenny and the players got all the flack for the result.
Scott Sinclair was a fantastic signing. He always conducted himself in a professional manner in spite of vicious and sick racist attacks on him. An all round good guy. All the best.
THE BATTERED BUNNET on 8TH JANUARY 2020 10:00 PM
I dont know but I cannot be assed trying to build a model, even on Excel that stretches a cell to infinity if not beyond, but last time I did on assumed data you had to qualify at least one year in three for the CL to get your money back.
They should have a more informed version at Celtic Park with lots of “what if” modules and well considered underlying assumptions on a mobile phone.