There would have been no surprise reading Ronny Deila’s ‘heaven and hell’ season in the Celtic View. It must have been an enthralling season for the manager but, good grief, it started with an 8.6 on the Strachan Early Season Scale.
These experiences mark us. We’ve watched footballers and managers grow weary (another word for lazy) in the past, as their early groundwork waned during good times, but memories like Legia or Maribor will inform every decision Ronny Deila makes for the next four months. He needs to use that ‘Never again’ month as fuel right now.
Did you sign the petition yesterday to demand the Scottish Government repeal their ill-conceived nonsense of a law which the entire country outside of Holyrood, and a few elites at Police Scotland, know is an abomination? If not, here’s your chance.
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Oglach
12:00 on 8 May, 2015
BBC saying Cameron may need some form of agreement with the DUP to alleviate any problems historically associated with small minority governments.
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I’m sure those proud Ulster Scots folk will step up to the plate.
DUP take Armagh ???
Canamalr @ 11.27
You are showing all the traits that have hobbled Labour over the past few years.
You are very conservative in your outlook — what we have we hold.
No forward vision regarding where we should aim for going forward.
All you have to offer is 20/20 vision looking back through rosé tinted binoculars.
JS was not a socialist in any way shape or form.
Mainstream social democrat with a desire to help those at the bottom.
I do not know where the hurt comes from but all I see is an inward looking self loathing.
Very close to a Monty Python sketch — what did the Romans / TB + GB ever do for us?
We made huge progress in those 13 years.
We must have or the Tories / London establishment would not be wanting to dismantle it.
My first example — Tax credits.
Brilliant progressive measure that was hugely redistributive and is now for the chop in well camouflaged salami slices.
Greenpinta,
It’s a fact we have many torys among us, at least they are up front.
It’s the judas goat nats that are the worst.
BBC saying Cameron may need some form of agreement with the DUP to alleviate any problems historically associated with small minority governments.
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Whoops I meant small majority governments :-)
Cameron’s biggest thorn will not be SNP – it will be his own backbenchers. He will do deals with the DUP to offset this.
And a wee choon also tae as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXio1f5BlRg
ERNIE LYNCH
I’m f…..g raging at the result. But to avoid laying the blame at the door of the Labour Party and in particular their stance on the referendum is myopic.
We got hammered. That wasn’t a triumph of populist nationalism.
It was a full-blown broadside of protest against a party who have let people down.
Time and again.
So badly have the Labour Party lost their flock that I reckon we’re f…d for a generation.
Even a lurch to the Left is probably too late-it will be met with a ‘well,they would say that’ response.
Marginalised in England,wiped out in Scotland. There’s yer future LP.
If the Trades Unions gain control and pull the party left,we may just revive. I dunno if my will to live will last that long.
Ernie,
I might add something.
People go on here about hassle in Scottish politics.
I took a pile of abuse from people entering a polling station in Derry here last night.
From useless dissidents to tossers who then didn’t even go in to vote at all.
One bastard in particular will get his comeuppance.
I hand the baton over to our comrades in the 26.Corkcelt it’s up to you.
Sorry for the language there.
An T @ 11.53
You talk tripe.
You talk Tommy Sheridan tripe.
Your 76 / 79 analysis is nonsense squared.
If you want to learn understand the 76 Treasury coup that started the unfounded deficit scare.
New prime minister coming in so give it to him large and scare him fartless.
You are getting mixed up between Jay’s ideas on keeping inflation in check with the Chicago school of slash and burn artists.
Madmitch,
And they sold theirs and the party’s soul for an expenses form.
Tax credits – temporary measure till they destroyed the support as with every other temporary measure they put in place will be very quickly dismantled as they expected and planned for.
canamalar
11:27 on 8 May, 2015
Corkcelt,
Scottish socialism died with Smith
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Brief,but on the button.
Natknow
Agree. Cameron will have to do deals with the DUP (who want a £billion extra) to negate the problems he’ll have with his backbenchers.
Oglach.
Thats the nub mate.they did.yet we are meant to believe things would be different.
As an aside i was chatting to one of Tom Harris team after voting last night and was asked why i did not vote labour,i cited voting with the tories on welfare and Douglas Alexanders assurance labour would implement trident.
i was flabbergasted to be told the ‘poor in my area can not get any poorer’
i suggested benefit sanctions are rampant here,foodbanks in all districts.
i suggested a little introspection into his party’s politics,
alas there will be none of that,
lets face it Oglach if a Labour party can not get in during these times then something is far wrong with them and them alone.it was an open goal,but imo Dave played Labour like a fiddle at referendum and played the english nationalist card(fear of SNP) in true realpolitik fashion(the 2 Eds knew this when they aligned Labour budgetary policy within Tory austerity limits) to win this election.
hope your well mhate:-)
HH
dontbrattbakkinanger
11:49 on 8 May, 2015
Up to Perth?
I heard she got off at Dunblane.
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Not with me she didnae!
HH jamesgang
Ed Moribund resigns.
Mills and resigns
Milliband resigns
BMCUWP,
Yer dreaming if you think the trades unions have anymore integrity that the Labour Party just another bunch of self serving snouts in the trough bastards.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
12:10 on 8 May, 2015
‘If the Trades Unions gain control and pull the party left,we may just revive.’
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My immediate concern was that the Blairites emerge triumphant, but Paul Mason has blogged that if the new leader is on the right Unite will walk away. The Party can’t afford that so it won’t happen
The more difficult issue is how you combat populist nationalism.
Perhaps it’s time to re read this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_Popular_Delusions_and_the_Madness_of_Crowds
Hindsight is wonderful, but did the Labour Party really think that Ed Millaband was the best shot of becoming Prime Minister.
The people at the top of the party must shoulder the blame for the inevitable austerity that is as sure that night follows day. Their virtual cowardice will cost the poor dear.
HH.
A year ago today God took a brilliant young mhan from us
RIP Oscar Knox.YNWA.x
Will the trade unions have a big say in the new Labour leader? after their support for Ed over his brother.
Bobbio
Read AT’s 12.12,post above. Existing labour don’t seem able to understand how to balance the realpolitik of governing a modern capitalist nation without casting aside those in society who most need their help.
There could still be a renaissance in scotland. But I see so few quality young labour politicians who can create this new movement.
And I say that with considerable sadness.
HH jamesgang
Ernie @12.17
How do you combat populist nationalism? By predicting it will all implode! Easy.
The SDLP allow the UUP to take Fermanagh and South Tyrone. Unionist agreement to have only 1 candidate. UUP wins by a very narrow margin. The SDLP refuse to stand down to allow a nationalist candidate to win. the SDLPs very low poll would have allowed SF to take the seat. The SDLP the Irish Nationalist party that brought you LORD Gerry Fit a party that would rather a nationalist seat was lost to a NI Unionist.
So the Unite dinosaurs will choose the next Labour leader? Happy days for those who dislike Labour.
Labour’s dilemma.Considered too left for England but not left enough for Scotland.
Mad mental mitch
Labour during the econ crisis of 75/6 only got the bail out on the condition they implemented friedmanite policies as a result of their then mismanagement of the economy
Inflation Aug 75- 27% inflation,
the country running out of money,
You give me great hope that Labour will have some insight into their own downfall in 2015
when you can not accept what is common knowledge since 1976.
oh ok you dont give me hope,its people like you who voted in the war murderer
Sir keith Joseph was proved correct in saying that labour will have to come to the country with ‘market’ policies.Alas he was right.Blair betrayed, now your whole labour movement cant ask itself what it done wrong instead of blaming others.
hope your well and not havin to much a flakey
HH
Mr Bean would have been a better option than Milliband.Clegg,Milliband and Farage do walking away.
Cameron and possibly the racist bigots of the DUP possibly?
Good God..
Bmcuw @ 12.10
What we are seeing is a last through of the dice by many people who are struggling in society.
The Yes vote was moved well beyond the 30% of old by people at the bottom who think they have nothing left to lose by voting for change.
It is a very hard sell to push the point that without the TB / GB enhanced welfare state things would be a lot worse for them. The trials and tribulations of the 80’s and early 90’s have been long forgotten by a significant section of the population.
That dynamic was in play yesterday where change to almost anything is being seen as better than the status quo.
As I have said earlier the biggest issue with the Labour Party was its growing conservatism — trying to hold onto the 1945 settlement at all costs — where we associated change with Tory slash and burn and forgot to do some blue sky thinking of our own.
Progressive change is difficult.
Radical change is possible — any fool can do it, see Clegg for evidence.
Regressive change is easy when you have the media cheer leading and selling scare stories to a worried electorate.
New Labour, like auld Rangers are deid! Thankfully.
new article posted.
Win the 2016 Holyrood election Nicola then announce a Unilateral Declaration of Independence – UDI.
That will sort out the men from the boys.
oglach
12:21 on 8 May, 2015
The SDLP allow the UUP to take Fermanagh and South Tyrone. Unionist agreement to have only 1 candidate. UUP wins by a very narrow margin. The SDLP refuse to stand down to allow a nationalist candidate to win. the SDLPs very low poll would have allowed SF to take the seat. The SDLP the Irish Nationalist party that brought you LORD Gerry Fit a party that would rather a nationalist seat was lost to a NI Unionist.
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oglach,
If John Hume had been at himself he would never,ever have sanctioned this.
The SDLP are lower than the gutter.
The argument for Labour will always be couched around keeping the core vote happy while also appealing to the centre. Blair did that by moving to the right. Labour now needs a leader who will persuade people to his or her cause, not simply try to tell them what a focus group identifies as the best lines.
Greenpinata
12:18 on
8 May, 2015
Hindsight is wonderful, but did the Labour Party really think that Ed Millaband was the best shot of becoming Prime Minister.
The people at the top of the party must shoulder the blame for the inevitable austerity that is as sure that night follows day. Their virtual cowardice will cost the poor dear.
HH.
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Over the years politics has come to focus much more on the personalities of those standing for election. As we have become more cynical and distrustful of politicians in general, this has become more acute. In this respect I think the Labour Party had a problem as soon as they elected Ed Milliband as leader. Many see him as a geeky, bumbling leftie – just as characterised by the right wing press. His brother might have been a better choice. Unfortunately, his brother is far more right wing.