Yesterday’s result at Ibrox gave some welcome encouragement but it would be wrong to read too much into it. Rangers still have the kind of lead that would have Celtic thoroughly confident of a league win and, lest we forget, St Johnstone collected all three points from Celtic Park already this season.
The win at Inverness was much more important. The Highlanders are bottom of the league but that is a false position. Two points separate Hibs, Dunfermline, Aberdeen and Inverness, while Kilmarnock, who shipped six goals to Inverness at home two weeks ago, are only a further two points away. Even with 10 men Inverness remained well organised yesterday, don’t be surprised if they move ahead of the four teams above them in the weeks to come.
The league is remarkably tight from fourth place St Johnstone to bottom Inverness, where fewer points separate the teams than split Celtic and Rangers. Don’t, therefore, be surprised if points are dropped in the most unlikely places.
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ET indeed, we have stopped discussing the standard of refereeing and now dwell on ‘the match commanders’ observations on what song material our support indulge in.
StMichaelsBhoy2 says:
20 November, 2011 at 21:24
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Another excellent post
Am off now
But I hope the next time you are in your local shop you look at the sweetie section in a different way- ” might dae us a turn at left back !”:)
awrabest
Going to take a short walk down to the Mont Fellard and enjoy a pint, good luck now…:-)
Here’s a wee question to all of you who start to blubber and snotter like a wean whenever the words Ireland and Celtic are mentioned is the same sentence
A lot of you claim persecution because of your Irish Catholic heritage and have had to flee these shores to seek a better life me personally I call it economic migration
Now the question
Why is it when I look around me particulary in West Central Scotland there are still thousands of good decent Irishmen many of who are now in their twighlight years and have made a right decent living from their time here and are now at liberty to return to ireland with their fortune at any time of their choosing. Why is it they choose to remain here whilst being the subject of persecution racially and secterian motivated assaults and are now no longer allowed to give tuneful voice to the heroic deeds of their fore bearers
Why do you think they choose to stay
Was that Berbatov at the Roma game at full time or Andy Garcia?
setting free the bears
Yes. Keeping an open mind is important.
However, other than watching every single Celtic/Rangers match this season and examining every foul, it is pointless to look at fouls/bookings ratios.
Hail Hail
pintaguinness says:
20 November, 2011 at 21:27
aye maybe a bit soft-centred
but a mere ploy …sucking them in to release my secret weapon when legs get heavy after all those carbs..
enter my supersub striker willie peppermintchew (ex motherwell) up front always good for a late winner;-)
PaddyG
Smoke and mirrors etc, thing that really gets me is how we have fallen for it.
CQN prides it’s self on quick non lay journalism and here we are gibbering garbage, we have been done up like kippers big time.
I have heard it said on here many times we are taking our eye off the target, well this time that’s the understatement of the year.
My dear,dear,dear,friend.. Top Guy
Pal..
Did ye see that Omar and Tony wiz in Partnership in the Under Nineteens Game
agin the Young St.Johhies?
Omar score Two .
Ah wid luv tae see those Two playing the Gether…in the first Eleven.
Two Real Tough Guys..
Ah hope that they Improve and Improve..until
Lenny, gies them a Shot..
As Ah hiv bin told by, collie.. Omar, is a Guy who kin score wi His Heid..
as weel as his Feet.
He Kin actually, jump higher that his Marker,if he His tae..and
Direct his Heider into his Opponents Neck..
Whit’s so remarkable aboot that?
Ye may say or no say
Weil
Sure, we hiv a Few Guys in the Present Celtic Eleven, who kin Jump Higher than their opponents..and win the Heider…but that is where it awe fa’s apart!
Fur,their subsequentt Heider, is Guaranteed tae Go Anywhere,But … their Opponent’s Net!
OOr DanDan is A Fine Example o’ whit Ah am talkin’ aboot!
Kojo
yer pal.. who likes ye aloater.
Did Ah say Neck?
So Ah did..
Should Be..
“Net”
Kojo
mickbhoy1888 says:
20 November, 2011 at 21:39
Here’s a wee question to all of you who start to blubber and snotter like a wean whenever the words Ireland and Celtic are mentioned
Why do you think they choose to stay
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To watch their Grandchildren grow up.
Here’s a thing,
Like many on here, my family history stretches like a long sad rag through the famine, immigration to Sotland, generations down the pits, and the whole anti-Irish stench that sat around those years. My father and grandfathers generations sheltered themselves against this legacy through song, all the family get togethers were song-based – to the point where, as kids, you’d invent all sorts of techniques to avoid havin to sing.
I loved those nights though, ordinary folk singing the most beautiful songs with harmonies that seemed magical to a wee boys ears. The vast majority were Irish songs, tho the only reb ones would be ’98 songs in general, as even the ones from 16 – apart from the Foggy Dew – were deemed to be fairly poor songs.
There was often ‘mixed’ company – what a stupid phrase – at those nights, with miner pals of my Granda singin some Scottish favourites, but no-one takin offence to any song, appreciatin them for what they were – stories set to tunes.
Course there was the old problems with the ‘walks’ – but most of the Scottish people of non-Irish background were good honest folks. The people that had a problem with Taigs would, in another setting, be your anti-Black racist, or your anti-Arab zionist, or your anti-Jew nazi. Question is, how do they get like that and how do we stop it?
I don’t believe this country is overwhelmingly populated with anti-catholic, anti-irish, or anti-Celtic people. I don’t believe there is an organised conspiracy against ‘us’.
I do believe there is a ‘nut’ of people with a problem, and that these are aided – not in an organised way – by people in media and politics with a ‘mindset’, or who have been – effectively- bribed.
watched the goals v ICT a few times
2nd goal was onside !
camera was slightly behind play and made it look offside
grass cutting of pitch (haha!) showed it was JIST onside
grassios mister grunsman !
:)
fums up !
mickbhoy1888 says:
20 November, 2011 at 21:39
strange question… why don’t we go home
My dear,dear,dear,dear,friend.. Mickbhoy @ 21,39
Easy question,pal..
Because They wanta Stay!
Ask Me Anither.
Kojo
yer pal.. who likes ye aloater
mickbhoy–those oldn’s who prefer to stay–maybe they’ve paid their taxes and are entitled to stay? Maybe as a GIRFUY to those nice Orange marchers who encourage them by playing outside their churches? Or perhaps they are older Celtic players who were kicked so much by the Orcs and the rest of the Scottish “football” teams their lower limbs no longer function? You tell me.
Enrico Dandolo nicked my Crusade says:
20 November, 2011 at 21:32
I agree, but we have to be very clear what Celtic is and what it is not.
up over goal
“…..it is pointless to look at fouls/bookings ratios.”
It is equally pointless to ignore them. They have a place within a wider context. Individual match stats may not demonstrate bias, corruption, or incompetence, but a pattern can emerge from studying a larger sample. The stats are not meaningless; it is just that their meaning is not yet clear.
Frontline medicine – BBC2 , not easy viewing .
Is vman about tonight bhoys ?
HH
BlackpoolBhoy
Line up, line up… Ladies and gentlemen…
It´s everybodys chance to shoot fish in a barrell.
Graham Spiers
My column in The Times tomorrow: the myth of the Green Brigade as the devil incarnate of Celtic Park.
What a d1ck!
StMichaelsBhoy2 says:
20 November, 2011 at 21:24
‘I’m afraid you’ve got a lot more work to do if you want to convince anyone that Republicanism has anything to do with Celtic’s heritage, never mind being vital to it.’
My aim was more modest.
It was to question your assertion that the name Celtic was chosen as a means of proclaiming the joint Scottish/Irish origins and aspirations of the club.
I focussed on that point because it shows the power of myth over fact.
There is no evidence for the myth.
No primary source. No quotations direct or indirect, merely supposition. Moreover supposition that conventiently fits the agenda of those making it.
Such evidence as there is (eg the meaning generally ascribed to the word Celtic at the time ie Irish) contradicts the myth. Wilson states the name had not been used previously. It had, for two clubs.
It’s revisionism, pure and simple.
JimmyQB
I do believe there is a ‘nut’ of people with a problem, and that these are aided – not in an organised way – by people in media and politics with a ‘mindset’, or who have been – effectively- bribed.
Nail on the head mi amigo.
From my experience it’s a very big “nut” and the people bribing them will go to any lenghts to keep control of said mindset,
blantyretim says:
20 November, 2011 at 21:32
LB friended me on Facebook I said to him you know that many people I should get you as my campaign manager and i would skoosh it.
I only need 2000 votes to get me over the line need to start kissing babies,shaking hands and not falling out with anyone.
Cheers
mickbhoy1888
“Here’s a wee question to all of you who start to blubber and snotter like a wean whenever the words Ireland and Celtic are mentioned is the same sentence
A lot of you claim persecution because of your Irish Catholic heritage and have had to flee these shores to seek a better life me personally I call it economic migration
Now the question”
I’m not sure you’ld hear the answer.
Your pre-amble suggests to me that, to borrow Jeanette Findlay’s comment, you have “no ear for the debate”
I deplore intolerance from the Scots towards the Irish just as much as I deplore intolerance from Irish fans, whether native or abroad, whether born there or generational, towards the Scots.
I think you just displayed some of the former. I can hear the dreaded phrase, Plastic paddies, hanging heavy on your thoughts whilst you whistle the tune of the Sloop John B with its new lyrics
AAFG says:
20 November, 2011 at 19:57
Wonderful post.
Had a few passing thoughts on the boys name, but you articulated so well.
The rest of your post was inspiring for those who are in the front line.
Best wishes to you, from another old timer.
paid their taxes all their working lives and have more right than non tax peayer’s to be here, why are they being abused is the question we should be asking.
TopCorner
ESPN did the line across the park also showed clearly onside big Butchers was a joy when he seen the replay
haha
the mighty Nancy jist cuffed PSG 1-0 à Paris
that wiz 2nd bottom v top
luv it !
ah’ll raise a glass to the Nancy boys ce soir
:)
mickbhoy1888 says:
20 November, 2011 at 21:39
I can’t answer that but I can give you my experience of others.
My brother left home for England in his late teens and returned home on a reasonably regular basis. As he settled, then married and integrated more, he virtually stopped coming home. He lives in a beautifull part of England, has a very nice house and a good job.
As he got older he started to get a bit nostalgic and began to look back with the rose tinted specs. He decided he wanted to come home for a few days and go see some old faces and visit some old places with a bit of personal history. I went around with him on a couple of days, but I could tell he had ditched the specs and the nostalgia was waining fast.
On his last day we were in the pub and he told me that after spending a few days back home that he realised that you can’t go back, because it’s never the same, everything has changed you’ve changed and your practically and outsider again. He also said that having looked aroung the place with a fresh eye, there were few endearing features. I won’t tell you his exact words as they may offend. :)
Also, when you move away it’s your chance to be reborn and ditch the baggage. If you return, the locals quickly repack it for you. :)
I had another wee tale to tell, but maybe another time as I’m off to bed now.
All the best.
Rico
I had the pleasure of watching Saturdays game in Peador O,Donnells pub in Derry.If you ever visit the city go there for the games,a lovely bowl of stew was served at halftime,free of charge.Thank you to the staff,it was great.Slan
Blackpoolbhoy says:
20 November, 2011 at 21:50
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Aye mate, que pasa?
V
Must add that my problem with his piece is his timing.
Why didn´t he write something about this a week ago?
Keeping this in the papers is a form of “there´s no such thing as bad press”.
Yes there is.
The GB are in it for a reason.
No bluenoses read or believe him anymore so he´s flogging a dead horse if he´s writing for them.
He doesn´t need to write it for us cos we know that the GB didn´t do anything wrong.
The sooner the add-ons and IRA crap stops the sooner we achive our goal.
“They” have the problem, not us.
St.John.Doyle
aye.. o)))
I was in your area this morning after church…
I had an interview a few years ago in the HA too…
Fanadpatriot, Paedars is a great spot.
V
Going up for the old firm game on 28th don’t need a ticket would I be ok for a seat on the bus though?
Cheers
BlackpoolBhoy
My dear,dear,dear,dear,friend.. Enrico Dandolo @ 21.58
Exactly,pal..
Ah jist read yer Tale . and
Like Ah said, a whie ago.
The answer tae the original question… is..
“They Dinnae WANT tae Go Back tae Ireland.”
Kojo
yer pal.. who likes ye aloater.