The Scottish Football League today placed an upper limit on which division Sevco can play in next season – their Third. We must now wait on the company providing sufficient information to complete their application to the SFL and for membership of the Scottish FA. Although many Rangers fans want Sevco to join the Third Division, chief exec Charles Green was clearly hoping to start life higher up the food chain.
The overwhelming nature of this verdict indicates the solidarity between clubs and fans, throughout the divisions, on how our sport is governed. This is a good thing but it leaves one burning question on the table:
Is the Scottish Premier League insolvent?
Last week SPL chief exec Neil Doncaster told SFL clubs that the Premier League would be unable to meet its contractual obligations if they did not vote Sevco into the First Division. Unless this was a shameless lie designed to bully clubs into giving Doncaster what he wanted, the Scottish Premier League Ltd should seek to appoint an administrator without delay.
You can ignore comments about league reconstruction at some unspecified point in the future, Doncaster told us last year that “those who want 16 teams in the top flight are deluding themselves.”
The Scottish Football League does not need the SPL, or its money, to continue to thrive as a community-based sporting entity. They will flourish. What happens to the SPL remains to be seen.
As we have observed once or twice before, M. Platini, where are you? We need the football world to assist with the survival of the game in one of its historic heartlands.
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Bookies Pen for a Button on a Blazer
Yes – in 2013 in a regional league after being unable to get a team together for Div 3 in 2012!
macanbheatha on 13 July, 2012 at 22:20 said:
I like this version better..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV8a0-cXzNs
ernie lynch on 13 July, 2012 at 22:31
That is quite brilliant, well done to Stranraer for doing what every other club should have done.
please excuse my ignorance could someone tell me were servco shoit play their home games thanks in advance hh
greendave on 13 July, 2012 at 22:47 said:
please excuse my ignorance could someone tell me were servco shoit play their home games thanks in advance hh
Glasgow Green???
It will be interesting to see how much of our license fee BBC Scotland will spend televising their games in the hope of giving them a dig out.
Mag 7
Respect to Stranraer FC.
See all the muppets that bought the new strip for former club rangers, what happened to that money do u think?
Rough figures… Say £40 a shirt (that will often be worn but rarely washed)….
Say, 50’000 minimum bought it (with stolen or dole money)
You’re talking about (and one of them wouldn’t manage this arithmetic) 2million quid, and I’d say minimum.
Not that I really care as they have wasted cash on what is essentially a memento. But is that 2m to green?
As I say, just a thought
Hail! Hail!
greendave on 13 July, 2012 at 22:47 said:
At Craig Whytes stadium in the south side, paying rent for the privilege and ticketus for cos they have no choice? :)))
Pens
pabloh_AKA_NEIL LENNON on 13 July, 2012 at 22:49 said:
The new Sevco top is only £35 division 3 prices;-)
Fell asleep on the couch wakened with a start, – logged back in.
*I wasn’t dreaming after all – phew*
BushyEyebrows High Flying Bhoys
Feeling bad. Saw your first post yet Didn’t oblige. So, are you a hun?!
Magnificentseven on 13 July, 2012 at 22:36 said:
Still hear matey sipping my cold beer, massive well done to you matey you were always consistent but I’m sure you understand why i was always sceptical.
I ALWAYS hate getting ‘small’ teams in cups etc – part of you always fears an upset is on the cards. There is a good reason for that – wee teams not only try their hearts out but the are technically inept and therefore have evolved to play a different type of football than the likes of Celtic.
Celtic players are faced with new unpredictable challenges – it’s sometimes impossible to 2nd guess an inferior player..usually because when they play at a higher level they don’t know themselves what they are going to do – it all becomes UNPREDICTABLE.
Newco will have a very UNPREDICTABLE season – nothing can be taken for granted…
Doc is Neil Lennon on 13 July, 2012 at 22:51 said:
pabloh_AKA_NEIL LENNON on 13 July, 2012 at 22:49 said:
The new Sevco top is only £35 division 3 prices;-)
no team will be wearing that in any league ever!!!
Sheik Yerbouti,
orcs take on that statement,
How many times is Regan wanted us punished FFs
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no surprise they will still want to give us more punishment tossers
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Opinion added to Regans statement, nothing more.
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according to journo’s on twatter we have not been punished yet, everything that has happened so far is the consequences of liquidation.. apparently!
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Does this not constitute making our position in Scotland`s FA untenable. Therefore opening up the opportunity to apply to another FA!!!
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This is becoming serious ****ing joke!!! We have been PUNISHED enough!!!
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He just cannot help himself. He is a weak individual who constantly blames others for his own incompetent failures – from Whyte’s suitability as a fit and proper person through to bullying the SPL and the SFL.
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It is getting to a stage they don’t even know what they are punishing us for anymore.
They just have it in their mind set now that we are going to be punished regardless.
We must be the most punished club in the history of world football.
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As sure as hell, it wont be a points deduction in SFL 3 !
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A 10-point deduction isn’t a punishment? The four fines?
Sounds a bit like “You’ve not had any punishment. The life sentence is just a ‘consequence’ of murdering somebody”.
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he’s wanting to cause us as much damage as he can before getting the boot, going out with a bang.
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This fu kin imbocile of a man needs punished for his crazy statements, a buffoon!
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no surprises there – been expecting this
EBT’s also in waiting – titles next
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im only saying what the hacks have been saying.. the 10 points where for going into admin.. the 3 year ban from Europe is because of a lack of audited accounts etc etc
i think its a load of bollocks but the hacks on twitter keep repeating that we have not been punished yet
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Is the SFA a limited company whose director’s liabilty is limited by incorporation or can the officials and office bearer’s be sued individually in a Court of Law, whether it be by a member club or an individual (therefore taking the corrupt UEFA and FIFA out of the equation).
Just asking because a couple of years ago there was a serious risk that individual officials of the IFA would be sued for the unlawful sacking of Howard Wells as IFA Chief Executive. The IFA agreed a huge out of court settlement to avoid being sued!!
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ey will try to punish us because we took them to court and won.
That should be the end of it.
this mob are trying to move in for the kill.
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It is the BBCs wishes/hopes added to what Regan said earlier.
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t’s personal now, of that their is no doubt.
Someone from UEFA really needs to pull him up.
He is meant to be trying to restore some calm to the whole situation instead he is whipping the whole thing up into an even bigger frenzy.
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BBC Scotland reminding Regan, or Regan tipping off BBC Scotland?
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If Green doesn’t realise after today the power we have over the SFA at present, he needs to sell up tomorrow.
Regan needs to realise the precedent he’s setting too. If any of the 3 SPL clubs who have apparently admitted privately to Traynor that they “wouldn’t survive” a Div 3 vote are in our situation anytime soon, some of the mooted sanctions would kill these teams off forever.
Whatever Regan tries with us, he won’t kill us. There are too many of us and we’re galvanised beyond belief to defy him. But endless points deductions, relegations, suspensions fines etc will kill a Motherwell/Kilmarnock/ICT – not consign them to lower leagues forever, but kill them forever.
If the SFA (Regan) really said this tonight and unless the BBC are pulling out a pre-planned rehash of previous statements in order to “keep up” the bad news, the SFA should be in emergency session right now (sans Regan) planning how to stop him before he ends all of their careers and the professional game in Scotland forever.
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Serious ? for all, do you think if the internet wasn’t available do you think they would’ve got back in ?
hen1rik on 13 July, 2012 at 22:52 said:
Magnificentseven on 13 July, 2012 at 22:36 said:
Still hear matey sipping my cold beer, massive well done to you matey you were always consistent but I’m sure you understand why i was always sceptical.
hail hail….sometimes you got to trust people to do the right thing
pabloh_AKA_NEIL LENNON on 13 July, 2012 at 22:49 said:
Don’t JJB Sports still own the contract for hun shirt sales?
If so, the huns get nothing, not one red cent….Well done, Minty :)
Hail Hail
zimmerman – Nevermind.
Charles Green has a masterplan to rebrand Ibrox as “Hun House”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o6yJLCPFFE (thumbsup)
macanbheatha on 13 July, 2012 at 22:48 said:
BBC Scotland – tainted?
Book
Magnificentseven on 13 July, 2012 at 22:53 said:
I agree, Greens backers will not see how they can make money in Div.3, they’ll be looking out their walking(away) boots already.
bankiebhoy1 on 13 July, 2012 at 22:22 said:
TOO RIGHT …… and good night to all you TIMS with a history worth retaining (too much excitement in one day for me….LOL)
“We must be the most punished club in the history of world football”
Well if you insist. :)))
One of the happiest days of my life.
Just logged on what’s the deal way Stranraer ?
Al be at every game a can against sevco if it doesn’t clash with Celtic :-)
Chapelhall csc
Re NewHunFC and ‘history’.
Let’s face it, there’s going to be an arguement about their ‘history’ in pubs, workplaces etc. forever more. No bad thing. Keep reminding them of it. The main points for me to get it through to the real thickos is to ask them why was a CVA was of paramount importance to them. It was the way to go for all who wanted to takeover the club. Why would you take on debt if you could just take a bullet and re-start again with your ‘history’ intact? Of course the answer is the retention of ‘history’.
Again, you could mention the co-efficient their new team will get if it ever gets into europe again. It’ll be 0. A brand new team has no history, therefore no co-efficient.
There is another way of puting it to bed, and it’ll be very interesting to see if it’ll happen. On the SFL’s webpage, they have a list of every team in it and it lists their past successes, if they have any . When sevco eventually takes it’s place, it’ll be interesting to see what they list.
If you look at Airdrie for instance, I know it’s a hard thought especially for a ‘Brig fellow, it has them listed as being formed in 1965 and not much else. In actual fact, Clydebank were formed in 1965 and as Airdrie United took them over, they retain that year as their formation. What it does not list is the honours won by Airdrie
FC. No mention of a Div 1 Championship, a Scottish Cup win and a Scottish Challenge Cup win.
SPF
My Dear Philvis…
philvisreturns on 13 July, 2012 at 21:53 said:
setting free the bears – Rangers is dead.
Sevco 5088 is a tribute act, a homage to Rangers. They did not inherit Rangers’ place in the league, and they don’t inherit their sins or liabilities.
The investigations into the misdeeds of the now defunct club should and will continue. If found guilty of improper registration of players, leagues and trophies will have to be retrospectively reassigned. Charges may be forthcoming if it the investigation into Rangers’ finances uncovers any evidence of criminality.
But Sevco 5088 isn’t responsible for any of that. They’re a plucky little new club who at present barely have enough players to fill a minibus.
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A couple of weeks ago,Dr. Gregory Ionnidis(@Law Report) cautioned that it was necessary to initiate the process of stripping R*nkers(IA) of the ‘Stolen Titles’ before they went into liquidation.
He suggested that once R*nkers went into liquidation,it would no longer be technically possible to remove the titles from the former club.
Conveniently,the SFA have stalled the investigation into the Dual Contracts issue,which would have provided the evidence to strip the titles.
I presume that Celtic FC may feel that it would not be appropriate to press the issue at this time.
However,this would not prevent other interested parties,such as the Celtic shareholders,and those of other affected clubs,from bringing their own preliminary legal challenge,whilst they await the findings of the SFA & FTT investigations into EBT/Dual Contracts…perhaps under the umbrella of a ‘Group Action’ ?
This would also help to reinforce the solidarity between the supporters of Scotland’s Honest Clubs,while they search around in the Dark,for the Omnipotent Stake,to finally despatch The Foul Beast from its Mortal Coil…
And who knows,restitution of the titles may strengthen the case for pursuing financial claims in respect of lost prize money and UEFA competition revenues ?
Sounds like a job for an Awesome Ginger Lawyer,doesn’t it…..?
Are any such fabled heroes to be found in Our Happy Land ?
Hail Maggie !
Can we call them Huns now, since they are no longer here to be offended …?
pabloh @ 22:49
My first thought is that what Sevco see of that £2m won’t be 10% of the 18m required to keep Murray Park and RaBigHoose open.
hen1rik on 13 July, 2012 at 22:54 said:
Serious ? for all, do you think if the internet wasn’t available do you think they would’ve got back in ?
maybe……..but ;ucky for us it is
Am I the only one who thinks that the assumption that New Rangers will automatically achieve season on season promotion from Div 3 (assuming thats where they start) , even with all the help they’re bound to get from the MIB, is actually a pretty big assumption?
EVERY game will be a cup final for their opponents.
Their players will be nowhere near the standard of those they’ve previously used your tax money and mine to fund and theyve got a manager who is , in my opinion , utterly uninspiring by any standard by which success is measured.
I suspect the SFA are more worried about this than they’ll ever let on.
Failure to gain promotion in any one of the next three seasons could derail them irretrievably.
Magnificentseven on 13 July, 2012 at 22:54 said:
Agreed matey i’ve been buzzing since i heard the news, give me your honest opinion, what did you think today before the vote ?
toibhoy67 on 13 July, 2012 at 22:57 said:
Stranraer voted against allowing Sevco entry into the SFL.
New heroes to add to the list.
Good Night and God Bless.
U2 Beautiful Day live at Slane Castle seems an appropriate sign-off link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSZv9KKf0g0
HH
Dozens of things to consider
So, the story so far as I see it….
What we know for certain
1) Rangers FC 1872 are in Liquidation
2) Rangers FC 1872 fraudulently acquired results on the park through undeclared Dual Contracts
3) Rangers FC 1872 fraudulently acquired taxation from employees and did not pass it on to HMRC.
4) Rangers FC 1872 cheated taxpayers out of millions of pounds in revenue.
5) Duff and Phelps made 2.5m out of the taxpayer and other creditors by running the Club at a loss during administration.
6) The SFA, SPL and SFL authorities have shown themselves to be heavily conflicted, bullied, threatened and harassed member clubs and have colluded against fairness and a judicious process.
7) Sevco will not be playing in the SPL
8) Sevco will not be playing in the SFL Division 1
9) Sevco will not be playing in the SFL Division 2
10) The Scottish MSM are moribund.
11) The NM have lead the way along with MSMs like Alex Thompson on C4.
12) Regan, Doncaster and Ogilvie are compromised and are wholly unpopular across the footballing population of both fans and clubs.
What we don’t know for certain
1) If Sevco will be able to get a team together
2) Who Sevco’s financial backers are and whether they will walk away
3) If Sevco will be in administration soon.
4) If Sevco will be successful in an application to join the SFL
5) If a non league club will launch a legal bid against a Newco being parachuted into SFL Div3
6) If the SFL/SPL will snub democracy and plough ahead with more plans to get Sevco into the top flight
7) Whether the SFA Appelate panel will convene to punish Rangers FC 1872
8) Whether Sevco who are at Ibrox and wearing Rangers FC 1872 ties and emblems will be held accountable for the crimes of Rangers FC 1872.
9) Whether the SPL will continue to investigate Rangers FC 1872
10) Rangers FC 1872 will be stripped of their fraudulent titles and trophies and those same redistributed to other clubs.
11) Whether Sevco will play with with Rangers FC 1872 strips and history.
12) Whether Sir David Murray will soon be just David Murray. Whether anyone will be going to jail over the whole fiasco.
the long wait is over on 13 July, 2012 at 22:59 said:
The weight of expectation on the hun players won’t help them either.
I asked a serious question on the blog a lot earlier today but got no response – just curious as to who leaked the Regan/Petrie e-mail to Tommo – and why they did it?
Any insights or opinions would be welcome…