The Scottish Football League today placed an upper limit on which division Sevco can play in next season – their Third. We must now wait on the company providing sufficient information to complete their application to the SFL and for membership of the Scottish FA. Although many Rangers fans want Sevco to join the Third Division, chief exec Charles Green was clearly hoping to start life higher up the food chain.
The overwhelming nature of this verdict indicates the solidarity between clubs and fans, throughout the divisions, on how our sport is governed. This is a good thing but it leaves one burning question on the table:
Is the Scottish Premier League insolvent?
Last week SPL chief exec Neil Doncaster told SFL clubs that the Premier League would be unable to meet its contractual obligations if they did not vote Sevco into the First Division. Unless this was a shameless lie designed to bully clubs into giving Doncaster what he wanted, the Scottish Premier League Ltd should seek to appoint an administrator without delay.
You can ignore comments about league reconstruction at some unspecified point in the future, Doncaster told us last year that “those who want 16 teams in the top flight are deluding themselves.”
The Scottish Football League does not need the SPL, or its money, to continue to thrive as a community-based sporting entity. They will flourish. What happens to the SPL remains to be seen.
As we have observed once or twice before, M. Platini, where are you? We need the football world to assist with the survival of the game in one of its historic heartlands.
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Paul67 I see the blog returning to finance, bad fashion (apologies Kano) and worse music on Friday night (God bless Pablo) now we dont have any Sevco it will be a better life
Not my favourite Friday night song but Pablo loved it so God bless you all
Pabs
Sir Minty should retain his knighthood for his services to football.
(Without him, we’d still have the Huns in the SPL …)
BBC 4 Roy Orbiston and friends, Huns in the 3rd division and very cold Magners, does life get any better?
ernie lynch on 13 July, 2012 at 23:03 said:
the long wait is over on 13 July, 2012 at 22:59 said:
The weight of expectation on the hun players won’t help them either.
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Ernie
Agree.
the long wait is over on 13 July, 2012 at 22:59 said:
Am I the only one who thinks that the assumption that New Rangers will automatically achieve season on season promotion from Div 3 (assuming thats where they start) , even with all the help they’re bound to get from the MIB, is actually a pretty big assumption?
EVERY game will be a cup final for their opponents.
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Yup. Wonderful isn’t it. Every game will be a kick and rush battle. Blood and snotters.
Elbows McCulloch will be right at home against some of the agricultural centre halves in the 3rd Division. LMFAO.
At what round will they enter the League Cup? :D
the long wait is over on 13 July, 2012 at 22:59 said:
The transfer embargo will further hinder their chances(if imposed), ernie lynch is also correct, the pressure from their fans will be huge, if it starts to go wrong it may get uglier(how can that happen?).
Just downloading shortbread and snyde’s podcasts from today,
gotta be worth a chuckle later on.
ThisIsTheOne on 13 July, 2012 at 22:43 said:
not bothered either way, more annoyed that the governing bodies have been so focused on rescue newco they have failed to secure the best deal for scottish football. if there was any question of the sky deal falling through talks with other t.v channels should have taken place.
spl football is no good because the guys running our game are not good business men, if we had good business men who understood the value of our game football would generate better revenue, we would get better players in and the cycle would improve our game/ european challenge etc…
the sky deal in england see’s 6 million per game, yet many generate awful t.v audiences, a celtic vs.rangers games should attract same figue given the audiance and sponsorship involved. so in recent season at least 24 million per season before you add all the other games in, what do we get 20 million from two t.v. companies for 30+ live games, f&ck right off
hen1rik on 13 July, 2012 at 22:59 said:
Magnificentseven on 13 July, 2012 at 22:54 said:
Agreed matey i’ve been buzzing since i heard the news, give me your honest opinion, what did you think today before the vote ?
my opinion has never changed……a few moments of doubt from time to time but I have said from the start that division 3 at best…..thankfully justice has prevailed….to a certain level….they should be in no league at all…but that was never going to happen
The deed huns, 2012 Harry Ramsden fish supper cup runners up, love it.
Magnificentseven on 13 July, 2012 at 23:08 said:
But why were you so confident ?
Dozens of things to consider
So, the story so far as I see it….
What we know for certain
1) Rangers FC 1872 are in Liquidation
2) Rangers FC 1872 fraudulently acquired results on the park through undeclared Dual Contracts
3) Rangers FC 1872 fraudulently acquired taxation from employees and did not pass it on to HMRC.
4) Rangers FC 1872 cheated taxpayers out of millions of pounds in revenue.
5) Duff and Phelps made 2.5m out of the taxpayer and other creditors by running the Club at a loss during administration.
6) The SFA, SPL and SFL authorities have shown themselves to be heavily conflicted, bullied, threatened and harassed member clubs and have colluded against fairness and a judicious process.
7) Sevco will not be playing in the SPL
8) Sevco will not be playing in the SFL Division 1
9) Sevco will not be playing in the SFL Division 2
10) The Scottish MSM are moribund.
11) The NM have lead the way along with MSMs like Alex Thompson on C4.
12) Regan, Doncaster and Ogilvie are compromised and are wholly unpopular across the footballing population of both fans and clubs.
What we don’t know for certain
1) If Sevco will be able to get a team together
2) Who Sevco’s financial backers are and whether they will walk away
3) If Sevco will be in administration soon.
4) If Sevco will be successful in an application to join the SFL
5) If a non league club will launch a legal bid against a Newco being parachuted into SFL Div3
6) If the SFL/SPL will snub democracy and plough ahead with more plans to get Sevco into the top flight
7) Whether the SFA Appelate panel will convene to punish Rangers FC 1872
8) Whether Sevco who are at Ibrox and wearing Rangers FC 1872 ties and emblems will be held accountable for the crimes of Rangers FC 1872.
9) Whether the SPL will continue to investigate Rangers FC 1872
10) Rangers FC 1872 will be stripped of their fraudulent titles and trophies and those same redistributed to other clubs.
11) Whether Sevco will play with with Rangers FC 1872 strips and history.
12) Whether Sir David Murray will soon be just David Murray. Whether anyone will be going to jail over the whole fiasco.
hen1rik on 13 July, 2012 at 23:10 said:
Faith Henrik….
Enjoy yer night Mate..
August 11th 2012
Sorry meant to add a don’t know…..
13) Whether the exodus of people like Alex Thompson from the scene of the crime will increase the likelihood of more gerrymandering and fraud….
Have we signed anyone yet. Jordan Rhodes? eTims rumour mill full of the usual Lillian gish but I am addicted to it like all things Celtic.
The first games for the Ramsdens Cup take place 2 weeks tomorrow. Two weeks after that, the league kicks off.
I can see them booting the RC into touch, if that’s not too offensive, but to get a team together in four weeks will take some doing. Especially if the Yanks and Goian leave.
SPF
The Singing Detective – A couple of weeks ago,Dr. Gregory Ionnidis(@Law Report) cautioned that it was necessary to initiate the process of stripping R*nkers(IA) of the ‘Stolen Titles’ before they went into liquidation.
He suggested that once R*nkers went into liquidation,it would no longer be technically possible to remove the titles from the former club.
I respectfully disagree with Dr. Ionnidis. After all, in the absence of the defunct Rangers, who would have locus standi to challenge an SFA decision on Rangers’ past misdeeds?
Sounds like a job for an Awesome Ginger Lawyer,doesn’t it…..?
Are any such fabled heroes to be found in Our Happy Land ?
Perhaps the awesome ginger lawyer Glasgow deserves, but not the one it needs right now. A silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Ginger Knight. (thumbsup)
stephbhoy on 13 July, 2012 at 23:07 said:
Scottish football does not need good business men at the moment, it needs good coaches and football prospects. Perhaps the problem is we have TOO MANY businessmen – good or bad? :)
Bookie
If any SPL club wants to mump about the money they`ll lose due to Sevco going to Division 3(hello Inverness) they should voluntarily go to Division 3 too and give one of the principled SFL clubs their place in the SPL.
starry plough on 13 July, 2012 at 23:11 said:
hen1rik on 13 July, 2012 at 23:10 said:
Faith Henrik….
Enjoy yer night Mate..
I don’t need to add anything to that
the glorious balance sheet: +10
Does anyone think that Super Ally could have Servco out of the Ramsdens Cup before the end of Juky to add to his achievements of last year for that other club he used to manage. Lucky to get another club if you ask my opinion after his performance with RFCiA before they went bust.
Btw, I just finished playing Football Manager through summer 2015. How is that the Huns are still in business?
July not Juky, to many Magners:-)))))))))))))
I wrote this earlier on facebook and it took me ages, so i am going to post it here to make the effort seem worth while.
The question was, is it now all over ? settled here in div 3 ?
If they are still hanging about as a rangers type fiend they still have the 160k to pay and a signing embargo (or worse to be confirmed by the appalete (?) committee – potential expulsion). A wee tax case, a big tax case, BDO investigation on D&P, Serious Fraud Agency investigation of Murray, Potential appeals by other amateur clubs as to their rights for SFL admission, Titles and cups to be stripped with financial recompense to those clubs that missed out europe etc, an investigation as to whether or not rangers met the license criteria for europe in the last two seasons with potentially further financial recompense to European teams played against, three years fully audited accounts (for a newco. that’s still in nappies), regan and doncaster to try and keep their employment status, and any other news still to hit the MSM. Plenty of chip wrappers to be had :-) also, to correct a lot of pro rangers media today, rangers have not been punished by playing in the 3rd division, that is the rules. The punishment is still to come :-) 10 lines of ‘I must avoid the naughty step’ should just about cover it for the SFA….maybe ;-) p.s how many bodies do they have and do they need 11 to start a game ?
Feels good reading it again.
HH
Mr X, Doc is neil lennon
while I think theres a few twists and turns possible yet I still have to take a step back from time to time and reflect on whats happened to them.
It’s not just that theyve fallen out the tree its the fact that theyve hit every branch , and hard, on the way down in full public glare with the light being turned on them by the likes of CQN , AT and RTC.
My father (RIP) simply wouldnt have believed it possible.
Reminds me of a story he used to tell of a pal of his who was never in the best of health but was always in a positive frame of mind , especially in and around 1967. Every time they talked about Celtic the guy would say – ” Isn’t it a great time to be alive and be a Celtic fan?”
HH
Roy now signing ‘It’ over’. How very apt.
I know it’s an unfashionable view, and will tip the Celtic hardcore over the edge…but this Bill Miller incubator-plan could work.
Britney 03/05/12
Hector Avocado – they’re not yet officially in liquidation, this may yet be important.
It is still theoretically possible for them to be rescued and carry on as if nothing had happened. Albeit they’d now need to replace almost the entire squad.
Just saw wiggy on SSN there saying that ragers fans may boycott away games in Div 3 because of how the SFL clubs treated them today .
This guy was the CEO of the SFA ,how the well did he ever get that gig and who appointed him ,he is an utter disgrace .
Also his comments on snyde tonight showed everyone his true colours and the integrity of the Scottish game means nothing to this man .I hope an inquiry is held as to why ragers were given the go ahead to compete in CL last season
This was the second round draw for the Scottish cup last year.
Ties are due to be played on the weekend of 22 October 2011.
Clachnacuddin v Inverurie Loco Works
Vale of Leithen v Cove Rangers
Gala Fairydean v Golspie Sutherland
Bo’ness Utd v Whitehill Welfare
Fraserburgh v Elgin City
Wigtown and Bladnoch v Stranraer
Peterhead v Nairn County
Wick Academy v Keith
Culter v Spartans
Alloa Athletic v Annan Athletic
Deveronvale v Berwick Rangers
Auchinleck Talbot v Threave Rovers
East Stirling v Buckie Thistle
Huntly v Queen’s Park
Montrose v Clyde
Edinburgh City v Irvine Meadow
the long wait is over on 13 July, 2012 at 23:19 said:
I’m fortunate enough to share this time with my Father, he is enjoying it as much as yours would have.
Your Dads pal was correct.
” Isn’t it a great time to be alive and be a Celtic fan?”
weeminger on 13 July, 2012 at 23:21 said:
Hector Avocado – they’re not yet officially in liquidation, this may yet be important.
It is still theoretically possible for them to be rescued and carry on as if nothing had happened. Albeit they’d now need to replace almost the entire squad.
and pay HMRC…apart from that no problem then!!!
Sorry if someone has posted earlier but this is brilliant.
Billy No’Well @billynowell
I am laughing but I have a song ready for con Monday The Laughing Tim by Billy No’Well: http://youtu.be/oqiXRNqPMwk via @youtube
fergus slayed the blues on 13 July, 2012 at 23:21 said: This guy was the CEO of the SFA ,how the well did he ever get that gig
Simply because he did not attend a Catholic School.
Dubaibhoy-“If I signed off the accounts it has been in good faith.” on 13 July, 2012 at 23:22 said:
Please note Culter V Spartans…CULTER!!!