The new SPFL board yesterday agreed that some sort of review should take place into the debacle which saw Rangers collapse into liquidation. While this is welcome as far as it goes, its scope will necessarily be bound by what the SPFL previously agreed to bind itself to. This was clear from the off, which I alluded to at the time.
If you contractually agree to limit your future actions for all purposes, you tie your own hands. This is where the SPFL are now and it is the reason we must look beyond them. The actions of those who tied their own hands are just as important as matters pertaining to the integrity of Scottish football’s competitions (the Scottish Cup and SFL League Cup, as well as the SPL).
The SPFL are not the only ones who are looking into this matter. They know to expect challenges during the course of the next two months.
Episode 5 of The CQN Podcast: A Celtic State of Mind comes hot on the heels of one of the club’s most controversial European ties in recent memory.
* What now for the Green Brigade?
* Dedryck Boyata – Are reinforcements on route?
* Virgil van Dijk – The windfall cometh;
* Farewell to Emilio Izaguirre.
Listen to the latest episode here:
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TONYDONNELLY67,,in my opinion you are a quizling who does not mind paying to cheated
You are no threat to the blazers and the huns, thats a certainty.
If CQN is anything to go by, no wonder the huns are laughing eh.
Like i said, weak and pathetic, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
Celtic supporters my arse.
The huns are laughing at you.
ERNIE LYNCH @ 1:20 PM,
Good Question….
Also is this the advice that the SFA relied on?
Hail Hail
Parkheadcumsalford on 26th July 2017 2:19 pm
I am sitting by a swimming pool in Spain and should be doing something else but ……….
This whole scenario is a disgrace.
It is a disgrace from Murray, from Rangers, from Duff and Phelps, from Whyte, from Green, from the SFA, from the SPFL and from all the clubs — and I mean all the clubs — in that it has been allowed to happen and they have been unable to do anything about it or have chosen to do nothing about it — take your pick.
The last 5 years have been spent more or less saying “let’s get into the fight!” or “Let’s ask some really awkward questions and stop all the fannying about and seek answers!”
At first we had to persuade the board that we were not crazy troublemakers as I honestly think that is how e were perceived.
Then maybe we were guys who had a point but who were overzealous maybe.
Of course court cases had to pan out elsewhere but the wee tax case and the 5 admitted ones were always fair game but no one ever wanted to talk about them or ask the awkward questions.
Today, I believe but can’t promise, that Celtic get it and know what they have to do.
That opinion was available before the Whyte trial and I am certain of that.
I also know that during that trial SFA officers were being asked “Are you watching this? Do you hear what is being aid in evidence? Do you agree now there has to be a review?”
Check out Regan’s quotes after the trial where he says that he still thinks that Whyte is guilty and will chase him for £250k — he could no longer collect that money and if anyone gave him legal advice that he could then this is bollocks.
HOWEVER, he then ends with the strange statement that if the SFA were somehow misled as to licences and licence applications then that would be anoter matter that needs to be considered.
The Giannina case says that if you didn’t submit all the info in your licence applications then you should have been deemed never to have applied. If you never applied you never had the capacity to play.
You cannot fine or enforce an embargo on an unlicensed club.
Did I enjoy writing that? Yes damn tootin I did!
Get into the bloody fight! Who knows if we will lose or win but the old lawyers test is do we have a case to take to court?
By Christ, we have a case! We have a bloody huge case and I would love to see some hard nosed bar steward get in there and legally set about their procedures and their rules while all the while remaining cold, professional, incisive, and clinical in the process.
We can do that, by god can we do that.
Need Celtica to galvanise and our leaders to show an example.
Resist Sleekitry.
No.2 son passed his driving test this week and is using my ticket tonight, so I’m trusting your good news week rolls over into Thursday, Sean.
Good luck to the Celts, as always. The Murphy’s sang it for their team better than anyone and I’ll borrow it for my team, “Don’t blame us if we ever doubt you, you know we couldn’t live without you. Celtic, you are the only, only, o-only”
Celtic made a big mistake not publicly challenging the Same Club myth years ago.
Failure to challenge this travesty will be a huge mistake.
TD67
I have followed your lead and only attend league and Euro games in Celtic Park. I attended 10 away league games last season, but will not go to away games again. I will never set foot Hampden or Ibrox ever again.
I hope this is not my last season buying a season ticket, but fear it may be.
Justice Fund
£20.12 * 20,000 fans (maybe a high hope)
= £402,000
Nice wee start.
None of the Hun fighting fund crap.
Possible?
MWD
Have the huns signed Big Daddy,Giant Haystacks and Catweazle yet for this season’s wrestling,sorry football season?
on 26TH JULY 2017 2:34 PM
TONYDONNELLY67, you think a game is more important than this says a lot about you
Have you been reading my posts the last hour?
How the Celtic board react to today’s statement will be telling.
The timing of announcement on a day when we have a big game seems suspect.
Today’s mood is different from the climate of 2012.
I have long said that the game no longer resembles a sport.
There are many other forms of entertainment that can replace football in the new social media climate.
The people that run football from fifa down are arrogant to a fault and their view that this is the way it has always been and assumption that a captive audience will always exist will lead to the games slow demise.
The impact of technology is enormous both in unemployment and deflecting reality.
My daughter graduated law school 3 years ago and has a good job but 60% of her classmates have not got a job in the legal profession.This number will grow in the future as technology continues to impact the profession.
The folly to me is parents still sending kids to college at huge expense to study for professions that may be obsolete in the technology driven future.
Some colleges have been proactive in adjusting courses to be relevant to future demands but most have stuck to the well worn mantra of it has always been this way so we will continue.
The long term future of football is not bright while the present incumbents show no inclination to make it an actual sport.
The future is not bright.
Maybe get be a wee Q & A next week with Phil in KSC
BRTH
You back before then,?
would be good if you or Auldheid could be there to educate us on the options we have
blantyretim
In London the Supreme Court rules that application fees to Employment Tribunals are illegal and unconstitutional, preventing workers accessing justice. The ruling has immediate effect. The £32 million in fees will have to be repaid. That is the good news.
The bad news though is, Supreme Court decisions do not apply to Glasgow.
DANSO
no need for the name calling, easy tiger, you disagree with me fine, just leave out the ad ons mate not needed.
My friends in Celtic
Please correct me if I have the following wrong on this particular issue – side letters
– The Huns did not declare the use of side letters to the SFA
– These acts are contrary to relevant SFA rules
– The Huns agreed they were in breach of the rules
– These acts have therefore contravened the relevant rules and is punishable by a 3 point deduction in all games that are applicable
– On the deduction of these points the Huns would not have won any of the championships where these side letters were an issue
To summarise:
If all of the above is accurate then not only are the Huns guilty of knowingly breaking the rules (cheating) they are also guilty of wilful deception and financially benefitting from these nefarious acts to the detriment of my shareholding and my Club.
In my view, then I, along with all the other Celtic shareholders have been defrauded as a consequence of this infraction.
I welcome your views on my take on things and how we proceed from here
Hail Hail
A statement from Celtic will be forthcoming. I dearly hope that it is a strong and comprehensive response to the SPFL statement.
I don’t think it will be issued today, and I’m fine with that – match day and all. However, the statement needs to be by the end of this week. The heat needs to be turned up now, and there are no more verdicts and court cases pending. All the information that needs to be available for action to be taken is now available.
Right, now that I have resigned myself to waiting for the Celtic statement, I’ll just focus on tonight’s match. It’ll be tough, but I am hoping for at least a 2-0 to take to Norway.
Tom Rogic to score a double!
https://thecelticblog.com/2017/07/blogs/theres-a-clear-cut-crisis-in-football-here-when-does-the-media-get-out-from-under-the-bed/
TONYDONNELLY67, im sorry if i offened but i let my emotions get the better of me
What dont you understand ffs
Stop giving your money to the enemies of Celtic, you are giving them money to cheat us.
Stop funding them, now.
Enough
BRTH
Brilliant post again , you have cheered me up no end !
ITALIABHOY on 26TH JULY 2017 1:32 PM
Today is a good example of how you can get a lawyer to justify anything by using legalese.
But ultimately this isn’t a legal issue (who, precisely, is going to sue and on what grounds?): its a sporting one. The SC settled the legality, now the question is whether the SPFL imposes the same punishment (a 0-3 defeat) it uses in other cases of incorrectly registered players.
The Olympics, the Italian FA, and other sporting bodies have no problem adjusting past records when new information comes to light. How odd that Scottish authorities seem incapable of doing the same thing.
What I said earlier.They were found guilty by Supreme Court.SPFL,sentence them with sporting punishments.No more legalities required.
MOONBEAMSWD on 26TH JULY 2017 2:40 PM
Justice Fund
£20.12 * 20,000 fans (maybe a high hope)
= £402,000
Nice wee start.
None of the Hun fighting fund crap.
Possible?
………………………….
I’m in!
MWD
Have to say, this whole debacle has exposed what a weak sports and business press we have in Scotland.
Juicy story after story, scoop after scoop. The football equivalent of Watergate. Someone could really have made a name for themselves here.
Any comment from the SFSA so far on the statement.
Hope they’re not too busy building membership numbers to miss the elephant in the room.
I’d have thought they would have been over this like a rash.
I have never advocated withdrawing financial support from Celtic since the mid 90’s when it was a question of existential importance.
I still doubt the wisdom of it at this moment. However I do intend to write to the club to say that I will be doing just that if they do not act very very clearly on the prevailing injustice at play in the Scottish game.
My letter will change nada. But a campaign by as many supporters of as many clubs as possible might.
Petitions are grand but an avalanche of letters or postcards has much more impact.
It’s now or never folks.
BT
Back on the 30th.
So far I have managed to smash my phone and today any old hermit has seen more sun than I have.
Meant to be out on a boat but am sitting here spouting this pish.
Scottish Fitba is a feckin nuisance!
DELANEY’S DUNKY
one thing I will never do is make my club suffer for the mistakes of others cheating lying and corrupt, shows just how good the club is when it can conquer all these things, and still be top DOG, we played by the rules mate since 1888, I’m only interested in CFC, the rest as they are doing, can bite my )(
Any statement,has to be a statement of intent,not some meely mouthed pi$£ about acknowledging this and that,we have had 5 years to get our ducks lined up,let’s come out with both barrels
Weak Italia Bhoy or corrupt?
For me it’s the latter. The former may well be part of it and it certainly enables corruption. Their silence is complicity in the corruption.
Corrupt. Corrupt. Corrupt.
Dishonest
Liars
Toads
Weasels
Add weak to that mix as well.
But they will lose. Truth will out and truth will win.
Not posted for a good while but looking at the discussion on QC legal opinions was interesting. Those that know me also know that I am a solicitor by trade. I instruct QCs to provide legal opinions or to give advice on a reasonably regular basis. There are QC’s that I instruct when I want to know the right answer and there are different QC’s that I instruct when I want to get the answer that I want hear………just saying.
Also, as has been said by others, there are generally two QC’s on either side of a case. At least one is nearly always wrong.
Yeez can, huff…..
and,
Yeez can puff,….
and,
Yeez can, blaw….
but,
Yeez need tae, empty the park….
or,
Yeez wull have yer bluffs called.
Ah mean, who are these leaders, that are going to lead by example ?
The complicit / kowtowing PLC board ?
Or,……
Brendan, the willing pawn, who was “really” brought in to, prevent Celtic supporters from, rebelling against the complicit custodians who run the club ?
Its a house of cards and,…..
The Orange Masonic establishment, know that, the Celtic supporter base o 2017, don’t have the cojones to, blow it down !
That,…….is where we’re at.
…..off-oot.
DANSO
been there mate, no harm done .
TD67
I will follow RT’s advice and write to Peter and the board tomorrow. I have watched Celtic for 50 years, I don’t want my attendance at Paradise to stop.
From BRT & H` earlier post:
” In the course of the past few weeks work has been getting done and preparations have been put in place for this precise moment. There will be other opinions. Other reviews of the available material and which will raise salient questions and reach different conclusions – perhaps uncomfortable and inconvenient conclusions.
The press release means nothing and says nothing.”
I`ll be leaving shortly for the game. The above means I will travel with a little bit more `hope in my heart`.
Cheerio for now,
JJ
celtic fc how do you justify not taking legal action as the former club rangers was blatantly cheating and has been proved in court am i wrong in asking this?
we have a completely compromised sfa there for the taking celtic just do it
any thing else celtic makes you look complicit