The proposed new deal the Guardian report Sky TV and the SPFL are close to agreeing would see a modest uptick of £2m per season to £29.5m.
For that, Sky can broadcast 60 games each year, instead of the current 48 games. Each club would also be able to sell five pay per view (PPV) games.
The analysts I have read is universally hostile. The deal does not compare favourably with similar sized European countries, the average cost per broadcast game drops and there is little account for inflation.
The analysis is also mostly lazy as our misses the point. Scottish football TV audiences are all about two tribes. Viewing figures become noticeable only when they meet.
Oh for an AZ Alkmaar, to bring drama to Celtic games from midtable.
The SPFL sell TV rights in an open and competitive market. It is absurd to bemoan the deal and not recognise the harsh fact that it was better than all others on offer.
It’s all clubs take up their five PPV options, some will be playing to a TV audience of hundreds, perhaps dozens.
424 Comments- Pages:
- «
- 1
- 2
- 3
- 4
- 5
- 6
- 7
- ...
- 12
- »
Some good comments today…..
That said, there is a cringe factor in some of the discussion, reeking of ‘too wee, too stupid’, cap in hand, take whatever they throw over the wall to us.
All significant media in Scotland is effectively English. Scottish football is a filler for Sky. They don’t talk up our game, they have never invested to grow our game. They have left decent fixtures on the table because they don’t particularly care.
We can do better, but often we don’t try. We just shrug. ‘It’s the way it is. What can we do but accept what is offered’.
We CAN do better.
Dessybhoy
Totally different scenario with the Huns complaint.
Norwegian angle — what is their deal?
Who is it with / how much is being paid for what exactly?
If live games is there another deal for a highlights package?
Norwegian league football — does it have a US media deal — live games?
Norwegian league football — can you watch it in the UK?
Has anyone ever watched Norwegian league football live outside of Norway?
How do the local viewing figures compare with Bandy / sled racing / Nordic skiing?
Lesson to the SPFL — if the value isn’t coming from the outside then you have to make the value from the inside not just moan and roll over.
While I’m on a roll ….
Tynecastle and Easter Road already rock in quite a few matches – with a bit more effort this could become the majority of games.
I’d have quite high hopes for Pittodrie.
Fir Park and Tannadice would need some more work with Ross County (indictment – I don’t even though their stadium’s name ! ) a bit further behind.
Don’t hold out much hope for Love Street
Rugby and McDiarmid Parks – see above.
Almondvale – a dead loss. A rubbish wee club with no history or provenance in a small new town. Empty seatsville
BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 12TH AUGUST 2022 2:16 PM
Rookie ref David Dickinson handed our game on a red hot plastic pitch what could possibly go wrong?
H,mm,could maybe arrive early,nip around some of the Ayrshire Car Boot Sales,and get his hands on an Antique Water Sprinkler,cheap as chips.
You never know.
B78 @ 2.27
Please don’t swim the whole way …
B78 @ 2.21.5
You gave the game away — 15 years ago …
He is well past his sell by date.
Our media deals have been terrible from the off.
Remember the laughs we used to get when the LoI used to stop live SPL games getting shown on the TV?
How long did that last once the EPL was up and running?
File under Bowling Club amateurs.
The SPL can be sold to the world.
The trick is to big up the other 10 teams.
Anything else and we are just pandering to the export of bigotry.
Live from Jock-Land — Reformation style Street Theatre / Real people involved / this is not acting / they mean it / they live it while you get the two hour experience / real people will get hurt in the making of this spectacle — see the News section for the details.
Not good.
This article seems to have been very hastily put together. Were we treading a forbidden path in the previous article? If the SLY offer was the best can we see what the other offers were? Thought not. This is one of these areas where my paranoia gets a double expresso shot and starts to think that the whole thing is an illusion. That the people running the game in scotland ( Celtic included ) are happy sitting playing in a puddle and have no use or need of things to get better. Am I all right Jack?
St Mirren v Ross County …
Big it up , sell it to me , go on a dare ye
I’d rather pay an extra fiver per home game on my book, just to keep Saturday 3.00 kick offs,. Reckon that would offset the pittance the sky crumbs scraped from their table to us.
“ My offer is this – nothing
Michael Corleone
and someone said the gaelic discussion was boring, this thread cheeses slice
I would like to see a comparison of the money we spent ( including wages ) on Ajeti and Barkas from the moment they arrived until now compared to the money taken from the TV deal with SLY for the same period. Bet we spent more than we got back. Just don’t show the football live. Put it back to Saturday 3pm and if you want to see it show up. Sell the highlights by all means. The pittance that we get from TV isn’t worth the inconvenience suffered by our supporters. Mind you, you would have to give a rats ass about the supporters.
“I’m not saying there was a deliberate intention of the Dons lads to injure him or anything like that, but they did let him know they were around when he was involved in the action.”
Just what , exactly, does Davie Hay mean by that comment?
How did they “let him know they were around when he was involved in the action.” ?
He finishes the article by saying the refs must offer him ( Reo Hatate) more protection.
Why would the refs need to offer protection if there was no `deliberate intention of the Dons lads to injure him or anything like that,`?
For me, Davie Hay`s comments belong in the same category as `Welcome to Scottish football` by fun-loving commentators after any particularly thuggish challenge against any foreign player new to the SPFL.
The TV deal is shocker…..we sould be on a parity with the likes of Norway, Sweden , Denmark…you could argue more because of celtic and rangers ….
In the halcyon days of the 60s and 70s there was no TV deal….but clubs catered for huge away supports therefore bringing in a bigger income ….I’m sure I read somewhere Aberdeen were planning on a 15,000 capacity for their new stadium….not much scope there the improve income!!!
Vito Andolini from Corleone arrived on a boat that was built in Port Glasgow in 1904.
To
Paul67 et al
Despite what some others seem to think the numbers needed for these type of contracts are at the level of primary school arithmetic. As was at any rate. Maybe some on here find them unduly complicated. Doubt it though. Now, according to you Paul, the Sky (extension) deal “was better than all others on offer”. Note the use of the plural there. More than one. How about we, Celtic supporters, get a chance to look at these alternative offers, and see what we make of them. Maybe Burnley78 could explain them to us if he makes it back from swimming the Atlantic. Meanwhile the rest of us are all at sea.
Hot smoked
Knave 🤭
I watch some football.
But I have never paid a subscripition or a fee to watch them.
If our club ambassadors are saying things like that, what chance do we have?
Get them tellt. Call that behaviour out for what it is or we will get ambassadors willing to stand up for us.
Kilmarnock F.C. v Celtic F.C.
cinch Premiership
14/08/2022 12:00pm BBSP Stadium Rugby Park
Referee:David Dickinson
AR1
Graeme Stewart
AR2
Ross Macleod
Fourth Official
John Beaton
and thems get academy teacher Nick Walsh
GENE on 12TH AUGUST 2022 3:20 PM
Thanks. I don`t think I would have got that one.
Just back from Yogi funeral passing CP,not a great turnout IMO, 250 ish…..not sure it was well advertised….
Every referee appointment to every Celtic game for the past 500 years has been greeted with dismay on the basis that he is pro Rangers and anti Celtic.
Now we have a referee on Sunday who is new and just starting off in the top level with no anti Celtic history and we don’t want him because he’s a rookie.
Take me drunk am hame.
SAINT STIVS on 12TH AUGUST 2022 3:20 PM
I watch some football.
But I have never paid a subscripition or a fee to watch them.
——-
do you watch Celtic games in the pub?
I bought Sky Sports and at one point, BT Sport such that i would stay out the pub. Dublin prices plus health.
i dropped BT when I realised that I was only watching 3 or 4 Celtic away games a season (UEFA) as i was at the game for the home ones. Plus, Irish Council TV always have UEFA games on and sometimes it is Celtic and i watch at home (plus Hesgoal)
Now with Hesgoal not doing UEFA games, it is likely I will be back in the pub for UEFA games
I might be better dropping Sky and watching the weekend games in the local CSC.
Downside is that I will get hosed in the CSC with a lunchtime kick off and fall out with my wife.
The UEFA games are fine as i roll in after bedtime
!!BADA BING!! on 12TH AUGUST 2022 3:29 PM
‘Just back from Yogi funeral passing CP,not a great turnout IMO, 250 ish…..not sure it was well advertised….’
###
Sorry to read that. I remember Jimmy Johnstone’s funeral cortege when it passed by the fans at Celtic Park and Big Yogi in the players’ bus with tears streaming down his face. It was one of those images that strikes you at the time and stays with you.
Yogi Hughes RIP.
Neil Doncaster’s career suggests he’s an effective administrator rather than any sort of entrepreneur or business man or wheeler dealer. Maybe negotiating financial deals isn’t his forte.
Those taking part in superbru competition
Can you all remember to get your entries in
Thank you
HH
Colin Farrell’s very good in Netflix’s Thirteen lives
My friends in Celtic,
The sky deal for domestic football demonstrates just how important European football is for us.
Winning the league is not enough for aclub of our stature.
HH. Our journey must encapsulate European football.
Does this deal seems to demonstrate that the most significant single source of revenue for our club (and most clubs in Scotland?) is money at the gate, not TV? Therefore the experience of those in the stadium should not be diminished for those watching or commenting on TV. Yes, TV can have some control as it is paying an amount, but only in proportion to what it pays. We are about to have VAR. I hope its use reflects how much is being paid into the game by TV and the stadium experience is not diluted.
I’m always wary of new refs doing a Celtic game because I think they will be keen to show their “credentials” in other to get off on the right foot with their bosses-
https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/resources/images/785319.jpg?type=responsive-gallery-fullscreen
Nottingham Forest have agreed a £20m deal with Watford for striker Emmanuel Dennis
The Nigerian scored 10 league goals in 35 appearances for Watford last season.
But he only scored two in his final 17 games as the Hornets were relegated.
He has started both of Watford’s games so far this term but is yet to find the net.
Ange Presser