SPFL streaming services and fans exclusion from football

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Having disposed of Celtic and AZ Alkmaar in earlier Conference League knockout rounds, Bodo/Glimt return to Rome tonight to face Roma (why we insist on calling the city one name and the club another, when they answer to exactly the same word is perplexing).  In November, on Europa League duty, they drew 2-2 with Roma, after defeating Jose Mourinho’s men 6-1 in Norway.

Our season that has already delivered so much, has European blots in August and February.  The defeats to Bodo/Glimt, in particular, were an indication of how much work still has to be done.  I would like to see the Norwegians go even deeper into the tournament, if only to offer a reflective glow on our own performance against them, but that feels too much like grasping for straws.

SPFL chief exec Neil Doncaster said he expected Pass to Paradise and other clubs’ streaming services to stop for domestic viewers from next season.  There remains a significant number of season ticket holders shielding and unable to congregate in large crowds.

The League is dependent on Sky TV’s largess here.  Sky changed the terms of their contract to permit Pass to Paradise-type services, a return to business as usual was always on the cards.  Before that happens, a Health Accommodation exclusion is worth exploring, especially now season ticket renewals have been issued.

I know one season ticket holder who has not attended since the socially distanced game against Dundee in August.  What happens next affects real people, real fans and their exclusion from football.

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  1. celticforever on

    Just a thought on BIG JIMMY trying to get re-instated on this blog

     

    which I am in full agreement with the same as many other on this blog

     

    as this site definitely misses his old school personality and wit

     

    particularly calling out chumps on here who deserve it and his

     

    love of Celtic in a blog that strays to politics too often in my opinion.

     

     

    My point is that there must be more to this situation than meets the eye

     

    because e mails sent from Big Jimmy, calls from various bloggers to have

     

    him re-instated have all been met with silence and no replies or responses

     

    from Paul67 and the moderators alike when it is common courtesy to even

     

    reply to people

     

     

    The situation stinks and is strange given some of the blogger comments

     

    allowed on this site nowadays

  2. Good morning all from a sunny chilly but dry, fresh morning in the Garngad

     

     

    Celticforever- The sad thing is Jimmy has emailed Paul67 on several occasions over the last 5 weeks or so and up until last weekend had no response.

     

     

    I believe he has never been told he is barred either.

     

     

    Sad that in 2022 you cannot get a reply to communication’s.

     

     

    FREEBIGJIMMYCSC

     

     

    D :)

  3. bigrailroadblues on

    Good morning all from Govanhill. What a smashing day oot in Johnstone yesterday. Great company and music, wonderful.

  4. On the subject of posters being ‘banned from the site, I must admit I’d rather not see Paul or Mod discussions on here. I doubt a single post, explaining the reason, would be sufficient. As such, there would be pages of circular arguments back and forth with no real progress being made.

     

    It may be that direct contact could be made, by email or similar, between site and the recently banned.

     

    As I understand it, bannings are given for repeated violations of offensive language or personal attacks. Both still happen from time to time, though are not as bad as a few months back.

     

    Perhaps the league position is helping!

  5. TheLurkinTim on

    BRRB…that is an awesome pic….so, recognised u Leggy n BelmontB…is Johnstone still standing ;-))

     

     

    H.H.

  6. TheLurkinTim on

    Johnstone….the one and only place and time I found myself drinking 0% alcohol beer in a pub ;-))

     

     

    WorthitCSC

     

     

    H.H.

  7. Good morning from a sunny but chilly looking North Staffs.

     

    Timbhoy163 – if you think big Jimmy will start posting on SC you haven’t been paying attention.

     

    Disappointed that Paul hasn’t responded to Big Jimmy’s emails. If that’s the case seems out of character.

  8. GENE on 8TH APRIL 2022 8:38 AM

     

     

     

     

    ‘Disappointed that Paul hasn’t responded to Big Jimmy’s emails. If that’s the case seems out of character.’

     

     

     

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    Would that not depend on the nature of the emails, and the terms under which he was allowed to return after his previous banning?

  9. TheLurkinTim on

    Ernie…my email was courteous but questioning…no acknowledgement/response.

     

     

    Big Jimmy’s ban is a joke…targeting posters as Chumps is no less than they deserve IMHO

     

     

    Idle speculation from you re the nature of any correspondence

  10. fourstonecoppi on

    How about a Free Big jimmy support list-:

     

    I’ll start

     

     

    1. Fourstonecoppi

  11. TheLurkinTim on

    Fourstonecoppi…will it make a difference…I doubt it….but you can add my monika ;-))

     

     

    H.H.

  12. fourstonecoppi on

    FOURSTONECOPPI on 8TH APRIL 2022 9:37 AM

     

    How about a Free Big jimmy support list-:

     

    I’ll start…… put yer name to it ( if you want) and pass it on!

     

     

    1. Fourstonecoppi

     

    2. THELURKINTIM

  13. My understanding is bigjimmy was grassed in

     

    That grass still posts.

     

    They could not gaf

     

    Exclusion,isolation,the cqn way.

     

    From a site that took Martin home

     

    To one that severs communication to the only outlay

     

    a Celtic supporting pensioner has.

     

    Beyond petty and vindictive is the new

     

    Not lazy journalism(and it is now lazy).

     

     

    HH

  14. FOURSTONECOPPI on 8TH APRIL 2022 9:44 AM

     

    FOURSTONECOPPI on 8TH APRIL 2022 9:37 AM

     

     

    How about a Free Big jimmy support list-:

     

     

    I’ll start…… put yer name to it ( if you want) and pass it on!

     

     

    1. Fourstonecoppi

     

    2. THELURKINTIM

     

    3. PHILBHOY

  15. !!Bada Bing!! on

    FOURSTONECOPPI on 8TH APRIL 2022 9:44 AM

     

     

     

     

    FOURSTONECOPPI on 8TH APRIL 2022 9:37 AM

     

     

     

     

     

     

    How about a Free Big jimmy support list-:

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I’ll start…… put yer name to it ( if you want) and pass it on!

     

     

     

     

     

     

    1. Fourstonecoppi

     

     

     

     

    2. THELURKINTIM

     

     

     

     

    3. PHILBHOY

     

    4 Bada Bing

  16. quadrophenian on

    MODS – in light of the revitalised grassroots campaign to re-instate BJ, can I ask for a bit of simple insight?

     

     

    I’ve asked before, but what was written or done that has undone his blustery clubbiness so much, that he incurred full ex-communication from the parish ?

     

    Without knowing this, I’m totes in the dark on the problem here.

     

    I mean, given the rancour that Paul – and other members – incur on this site, I can only presume it was judged as ‘extreme’ ??

     

    And if it was, I’d hope the auld fella would readily express some simple remorse so to draw a line under any offence given and/or taken and return to this often troubled flock ?

     

    If it wasn’t bad, then FHS drop the Bolingoli-level grudge and open the door again.

  17. I’ll start…… put yer name to it ( if you want) and pass it on!

     

     

    1. Fourstonecoppi

     

    2. THELURKINTIM

     

    3. PHILBHOY

     

    4. Bada Bing

     

    5. An Tearmann

  18. FOURSTONECOPPI on 8TH APRIL 2022 9:44 AM

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    FOURSTONECOPPI on 8TH APRIL 2022 9:37 AM

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    How about a Free Big jimmy support list-:

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I’ll start…… put yer name to it ( if you want) and pass it on!

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    1. Fourstonecoppi

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    2. THELURKINTIM

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    3. PHILBHOY

     

     

     

     

    4 Bada Bing

     

     

    5 Dan

  19. I’ll start…… put yer name to it ( if you want) and pass it on!

     

     

     

     

     

     

    1. Fourstonecoppi

     

     

     

     

    2. THELURKINTIM

     

     

     

     

    3. PHILBHOY

     

     

     

     

    4. Bada Bing

     

     

     

     

    5. An Tearmann

     

     

    6 Dan

  20. 1.Fourstonecoppi

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    2. THELURKINTIM

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    3. PHILBHOY

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    4. Bada Bing

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    5. An Tearmann

     

     

     

     

     

     

    6 Dan

     

     

     

     

    7.Drew1967

  21. FREE BIG JIMMY :

     

     

    1.Fourstonecoppi

     

    2. THELURKINTIM

     

    3. PHILBHOY

     

    4. Bada Bing

     

    5. An Tearmann

     

    6 Dan

     

    7.Drew1967

     

    8. James1955

  22. THELURKINTIM on 8TH APRIL 2022 9:34 AM

     

    ‘Ernie…my email was courteous but questioning…no acknowledgement/response.’

     

     

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    I was referring to Big Jimmy’s email.

  23. Weebobbycollins on

    Paul won’t respond to a list but might respond if people stop posting. Leave the blog to JHB and the multi-monikers.

  24. WBC…I suggested it in jest…tho it may be a legitimate option…not that I posted this ;-))

     

     

    H.H.

  25. FREE BIG JIMMY :

     

     

     

     

     

     

    1.Fourstonecoppi

     

    2. THELURKINTIM

     

    3. PHILBHOY

     

    4. Bada Bing

     

    5. An Tearmann

     

    6 Dan

     

    7.Drew1967

     

    8. James1955

     

    9. Gene

  26. Ernie

     

    Common courtesy would suggest a reply should be made – even if it says the matter’s closed

  27. Weebobbycollins on

    Btw…you can add me to the list although I’m not sure it’ll work.

     

    Over and out!

  28. FREE BIG JIMMY :

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    1.Fourstonecoppi

     

     

     

     

    2. THELURKINTIM

     

     

     

     

    3. PHILBHOY

     

     

     

     

    4. Bada Bing

     

     

     

     

    5. An Tearmann

     

     

     

     

    6 Dan

     

     

     

     

    7.Drew1967

     

     

     

     

    8. James1955

     

     

     

     

    9. Gene

     

     

     

    10. Bigjock67

     

     

     

    11. WEEBOBBYCOLLINS

  29. Dermot Desmond article on Celtic TV starting to pop up on the sports sites, it finishes with this quote…

     

     

    “We do not want the club to get into a financial state where the club goes into liquidation and there is going to be a new Celtic. We want our history to be continuous, not to be curtailed through mismanagement.”

  30. FREE BIG JIMMY :

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    1.Fourstonecoppi

     

    2. THELURKINTIM

     

    3. PHILBHOY

     

    4. Bada Bing

     

    5. An Tearmann

     

    6 Dan

     

    7.Drew1967

     

    8. James1955

     

    9. Gene

     

    10. Scullybhoy

  31. FREE BIG JIMMY :

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    1.Fourstonecoppi

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    2. THELURKINTIM

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    3. PHILBHOY

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    4. Bada Bing

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    5. An Tearmann

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    6 Dan

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    7.Drew1967

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    8. James1955

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    9. Gene

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    10. Bigjock67

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    11. WEEBOBBYCOLLINS

     

     

     

     

     

    12 Scullybhoy (suds bench as usual)

  32. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    New article due in an hour so I better be quick.

     

     

    Streaming.

     

     

    I’d like the Pass to Paradise to become a standard season ticket offering.

     

     

    Wasn’t impressed with Paul’s use of “largesse” to describe the SPFL interaction with Sky.

     

     

    Surely the overarching contract has provisions in place to allow the contract to be legally changed if both parties agree.

     

     

    If so, start negotiating now.

     

     

    Am struggling to see Sky’s issue here.

     

     

    It’s a streaming offering to a confined group (albeit a group of 53,000)

     

     

    None of whom, having paid for an ST would likely buy a Sky subscription if they haven’t already.

     

     

    Small risk a season ticket holder would invite 3 mates round to watch the streamed game but hey ho.

     

     

    And, has been mentioned earlier, in a very good season, Sky covers a maximum of 5 home games?

     

     

    Season opener with flag raised

     

    2 Glasgow Derbies

     

    Season winning game

     

    Trophy presented game

     

     

    Barely a quarter of our home league programme.

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