Yesterday’s referee Craig Thomson is getting it from all quarters but I have some sympathy for him. He saw the Scott Brown tackle and took no action. The challenge was executed with extreme force but also with laser-like accuracy. It didn’t injure or foul anyone.
Aiden Connolly dived to win Dundee United’s penalty. Thomson could not have seen an infraction, because there wasn’t one, but when a player attempts to con a referee like this, it’s impossible for the ref to get it right all the time.
Virgil got involved with Butcher, both players on the ground, carelessly kicking away. Both should have been cautioned. Fifa guidelines entitle the referee to interpret this behaviour as a sending off offence, if he deems it appropriate- however, Thomson didn’t see it and took no action until his assistant, Graham Chambers, got involved.
It was evident from the length of time Thomson spoke to Chambers that the assistant was getting the third degree on what he claimed to have seen. The ref asked several questions of his assistant to verify how sure he was of what he saw. It was clear this was not corroborated by the Thomson’s own account.
Neither of them saw Nadir Ciftci kick Scott Brown on the head. I didn’t see it either until I watched the incident a couple of times.
Chambers got things spectacularly wrong. Like most others he missed the worst incident (Ciftci), advised the referee into red carding two players who should have been cautioned, and, to demonstrate how flustered he was, failed to notice which United player he put his arm on and led away from the action.
When a referee has an assistant, and a player like Connolly, to work with, he’s going to have a bad day.
As far as retrospective action is concerned: Scott Brown is in the clear, the referee saw what he did and was happy with it. Ciftci presumably will be banned for violent conduct. Connolly should be banned for simulation, unless Ronny is right that this rule applies only when players wear green and white hoops. Paton should have his red card rescinded.
Virgil van Dijk has a case to have his red card reduced to a yellow – however – this being the SFA, I don’t think that will happen, as he is tied to Calum Butcher’s situation, and that is more complex. If Virgil has his card reduced to a yellow, so too should Butcher, but Butcher was later booked – which would have been his second yellow.
A player who the assistant referee intended to remove from the field would not have been on to receive his booking had the assistant not nabbed the wrong player. He also didn’t have the benefit of taking his caution into account.
The SFA will stick their fingers in their ears and insist the assistant’s initial interpretation was right, just to avoid the unholy mess of banning Butcher for two yellow cards while not banning the Celtic player, or deciding that Butcher’s (actual) yellow card should be ignored due to the player unfairly missing out on a caution.
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Geordie Munro
16:49 on 9 March, 2015
Only bottom tier mate
San Diego Bhoy 16:35
I work in Paisley and have access to the local rag on a pretty well daily basis.
They once ran a feature on local boy Craig Thomson as he was making his way up and through the refereeing ranks.
His self-confessed finest hour?
Faroe Islands v France European qualifier. He had yellow carded Vieira and gave him a second for a penalty box dive. “My heart was pounding but I knew I had to give him the second” or some such like tosh was the quote.
An anti-Celtic reptile.
Hope you were all on Celtic cards again yesterday by the way.
This guy knows how to celebrate a goal.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/mar/09/cologne-anthony-ujah-goat-celebration-apology-bundesliga
quonno 16:47
Anthony Stokes will enthusiastically agree with that plan.
Charles,
So what’s happening to top tier on the hcts?
I’m lower but I’m sure there’ll be some on here who it’ll effect
HH
mike in toronto
16:49 on 9 March, 2015
I propose an official motion that we add that to the official CQN Vocabulary. Fits in somewhere between “Amortisation” and “Zombie”.
Attila the Protestant…? Nah! Doesn’t have the same ring to it. A Hun is a Hun and that’s it.
Celtic to appeal W D red?? I hope they did it on the way home yesterday!! I wd expect nothing less from my beloved Celtic.
squire danaher
16:51 on 9 March, 2015
It’s all fairie dust in CT’s world. Possibly a few moonbeams too.
It’s getting so bad in this country that you cany call a hun a hun anymore.
Roychubbybrown. Csc
Dharma..,
“And all because I posted that your post of 12.57 sounded like YOU WERE CALLING Paul67 an idiot and didn’t sound like you were being very polite to the person on whose blog you’re posting.”
That was imposing your interpretation expecting me to feel remorse for your interpretation was you getting personal, it was wholly your sin for thinking the worst and then to compound that, you expect me to accept blame for your poison, hence the disingenuous snipe.
soukous
Thot that was goat there!! 0)
VVD will have no chance ,as Ctfiti and Connolly will get banned IMO
Shld Ciftci not have been booked when he ran off the park to celebrate his goal with his pals in the dugout??
Ps Hope he’s in the Hoops next season btw!!
All this talk of appeals, yellow/red card permutations. Forget it !
The powers that be are currently engaged in determining how Sevco can be cannonballed straight into the SPL next season. You’d better believe it !
Meanwhile, everyone waits with baited breath to see how the revolution works out. £20million will be invested ?! Wow. At least that should keep the new club afloat for the foreseeable.
For all the talk of men of much wealth, you don’t accumulate such finance by investing in football clubs. Expect the massed hordes of the gullible to be asked to dip their hands in their wage packets again. Mr King didn’t get where he is today by being charitable with his Ben Nevis money. Just ask the South African population !
jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/
17:05 on 9 March, 2015
If Ciftci played for us he’d be in the stand most weeks. Loose cannon, decent player but nutter.
Just in from work and scanning back. Canamaliar still throwing his substantial weight around I see.
Methinks he’s not getting any these days.
Whit a grumpy bassa he is always taking his frustration out on the rest of us.
Maybe I should be pitying him.
Grub’s up.
Bye.
Thomson is a complete erse but can’t agree he is just anti Celtic.No hun or avnyone who hated us would have given us the penalty at Ipox that big Sammy missed.The award was soft (even with my green blinkers) and if converted would probably have ensured the league.
Think he is a big hit on himself but that is all
Geordie Munro
16:54 on 9 March, 2015
The Upper Tier will be closed for this match. Those STH located in the Upper Tier and on the HCTS will receive an alternative ticket for this match.
official statement
That’s it Uncle Tom scurry back into your hole
Before I go . . . Cup replay tickets now on sale to season ticket holders at £15 a pop.
Good price.
Well done Celtic.
Canamaliar –
Poor choice of words under the circumstances hahahaha.
Hilarious.
Gary67
He’s only in his early twenties!! Stokes or Cifcti???
Monday 9th
I have left this rather late tonight and it is cold. The priest Fr Murphy was in. I had a discussion with him on the situation. He said he enjoyed our talk and was somewhat enlightened, when he was leaving.
On the subject of priests, I received a small note from a Fr S. C. from Tralee, Kerry, and some holy pictures of Our Lady. The thought touched me. If it is the same man, I recall him giving a lecture to us in Cage 11 some years ago on the right to lift arms in defence of the freedom of one’s occupied and oppressed nation. Preaching to the converted he was, but it all helps.
It is my birthday and the boys are having a sing-song for me, bless their hearts. I braved it to the door, at their request, to make a bit of a speech, for what it was worth. I wrote to several friends today including Bernie and my mother. I feel all right and my weight is 60 kgs.
I always keep thinking of James Connolly, and the great calm and dignity that he showed right to his very end, his courage and resolve. Perhaps I am biased, because there have been thousands like him but Connolly has always been the man that I looked up to.
I always have tremendous feeling for Liam Mellowes as well; and for the present leadership of the Republican Movement, and a confidence in them that they will always remain undaunted and unchanged. And again, dare I forget the Irish people of today, and the risen people of the past, they too hold a special place in my heart.
Well, I have gotten by twenty-seven years, so that is something. I may die, but the Republic of 1916 will never die. Onward to the Republic and liberation of our people.
Watched the whole game yesterday (on SKY unfortunately) and I’m utterly astonished to find that James Forrest was playing, I honestly thought he was an unused sub.
Uncle Tom,
Yer pathetic
Canamalar,
If you weren’t inferring that Paul67 was idiot in your original post of 12.57 then why did you post at 14.42 “if you disagree then your an idiot too” after asking me my opinion of your post?
How should I interpret it?
That “too” means someone else must be an idiot along with me if I disagree with your post. Who else is the idiot?
Charles,
Cheers neebs.
HH
I used to know an old guy from Yorkshire who called them OONS.
Mind you that was normally preceded by a ” Fookin’ “
Im enjoying CQN at the moment..
really liking ard macha’ s posts….really really great to read…thanks for taking the time to do it …
Rushed in to get ticket for replay
My seat reallocated
Moved to another seat
Season ticket holder before Fergus McCann arrived
This might be last
Loyalty cuts both ways
rock tree bhoy….shows you how people see things different.i only saw the highlights and thought James showed up well.
.just saying.
Whens Patons trial?? Not the sending off one btw!!
geordie munro
16:49 on 9 March, 2015Teamcards activated for thems on the hcts for the replay.
I know a few bhoys who feel the same mate,not sure of the solution though.HH
Cancel last post C&P meant to reply to Frank Marker…
F M
Thats a sore one imo!!!
Email i got from CELTIC
NOT very clear presume us UPPER bhoys
will also be activated and we will be shipped into LOWER tier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Please note that Teamcards for Lower Tier Season Ticket
holders on the Home Cup Ticket Scheme will be activated.
Payment will be taken from accounts on Friday, March 13.
BGX – thats fair comment mate, no problem with that, I was on the shandy at the time but cannot recall one positive contribution from JF, but just as you say, we all see things differently.