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Yesterday’s referee Craig Thomson is getting it from all quarters but I have some sympathy for him.  He saw the Scott Brown tackle and took no action.  The challenge was executed with extreme force but also with laser-like accuracy.  It didn’t injure or foul anyone.

Aiden Connolly dived to win Dundee United’s penalty.  Thomson could not have seen an infraction, because there wasn’t one, but when a player attempts to con a referee like this, it’s impossible for the ref to get it right all the time.

Virgil got involved with Butcher, both players on the ground, carelessly kicking away.  Both should have been cautioned.  Fifa guidelines entitle the referee to interpret this behaviour as a sending off offence, if he deems it appropriate- however, Thomson didn’t see it and took no action until his assistant, Graham Chambers, got involved.

It was evident from the length of time Thomson spoke to Chambers that the assistant was getting the third degree on what he claimed to have seen.  The ref asked several questions of his assistant to verify how sure he was of what he saw.  It was clear this was not corroborated by the Thomson’s own account.

Neither of them saw Nadir Ciftci kick Scott Brown on the head.  I didn’t see it either until I watched the incident a couple of times.

Chambers got things spectacularly wrong.  Like most others he missed the worst incident (Ciftci), advised the referee into red carding two players who should have been cautioned, and, to demonstrate how flustered he was, failed to notice which United player he put his arm on and led away from the action.

When a referee has an assistant, and a player like Connolly, to work with, he’s going to have a bad day.

As far as retrospective action is concerned: Scott Brown is in the clear, the referee saw what he did and was happy with it.  Ciftci presumably will be banned for violent conduct.  Connolly should be banned for simulation, unless Ronny is right that this rule applies only when players wear green and white hoops.  Paton should have his red card rescinded.

Virgil van Dijk has a case to have his red card reduced to a yellow – however – this being the SFA, I don’t think that will happen, as he is tied to Calum Butcher’s situation, and that is more complex.  If Virgil has his card reduced to a yellow, so too should Butcher, but Butcher was later booked – which would have been his second yellow.

A player who the assistant referee intended to remove from the field would not have been on to receive his booking had the assistant not nabbed the wrong player.  He also didn’t have the benefit of taking his caution into account.

The SFA will stick their fingers in their ears and insist the assistant’s initial interpretation was right, just to avoid the unholy mess of banning Butcher for two yellow cards while not banning the Celtic player, or deciding that Butcher’s (actual) yellow card should be ignored due to the player unfairly missing out on a caution.

Countdown is on to Friday night’s CQN11 St Patrick’s Dinner at the Kerrydale Suite, tickets will be in the post today.

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It’s been humbling watching people come forward and do their bit in recent weeks.  Tickets cost £5 each, you know how valuable this is to those kids and families in Malawi.  Buy your ticket here, or click the link at the bottom of that page to buy a book of tickets.

Friday’s programme is about to go to press…  The wee guy with the spoon is not from a stock photo, he’s been served at a kitchen YOU PAID FOR last year.  Stunning stuff.

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  1. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Celtic will appeal the red card shown to Virgil Van Dijk in yesterday’s Scottish Cup game against Dundee Utd.

  2. Paul67,

     

     

    Many thanks for re-stating everything I said last night and today.

     

    On other news

     

     

    Celtic striker John Guidetti sparks outrage after singing sectarian song on Dutch TV

     

    John Guidetti sang a song from the terraces on Dutch television

     

    The song included the line ‘the H*** are deid’

     

    Rangers fans are currently petitioning to have the word ‘H**’ outlawed

     

    Guidetti then remarked that he thought it was ‘a good song’

     

    By HAMISH MACKAY FOR MAILONLINE

     

     

     

    This is from the Mail online.Since when did an angry horde of huns start making the law?.

     

    “Petitioning to have the word Hun,outlawed.So,I suppose their very frequent use of the words,”Tim,Tarrier”in relation to us is perfectly acceptable?.Their other “Wee funny nicknames”for us,like Pape,Fenian,have already been classed as sectarian,but does not sit well with them.

     

    I had started to call them “Monkeys”but will now revert to their proper name of HUNS.

  3. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Auldheid -DU should be served with an improvement notice re their pitch,guys paying good money to be entertained.Happened to Murderwell a few years ago

  4. !!Bada Bing!!

     

    14:45 on

     

    9 March, 2015

     

    Celtic will appeal the red card shown to Virgil Van Dijk in yesterday’s Scottish Cup game against Dundee Utd.

     

     

    Good.

  5. Bada..,

     

    Do you think the club waited for the hearing date to be set before appealing, I wouldn’t be surprised if we had made it public, we were appealing the the red, the hearing would have been set for tomorrow.

  6. I would have booked Broonie for a dangerous tackle, red carded Cifti for kicking Broonie in the head and told Virgil and the other guy to calm down.

     

     

    The ref was guided by his linesman and it may have been difficult for him not to act if he felt he did not have a clear view himself. The confrontation did happen after the play had broken up field. The linesman in this instance got it wrong, overreacting to all the DU players pointing at Virgil.

     

     

    All in all, not a good day at the office for the officiating crew.

  7. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    Jungle vip,

     

     

    I think it used to be the case of same officials for a replay, but I think the rule was changed.

     

     

    Probably to avoid issues like yesterday’s game spilling over.

     

     

    Could be / probably am wrong, but, hey ho!

  8. The Green Man on

    Craig Thompson will be loving all the attention he is getting.

     

    Excited like a wee boy on xmas day, cackling like a witch on buckfast.

     

    Sad halfwit that he is.

     

    Wants to be a TV star.

     

    Oh look at me….im controversial.

     

    The man should see a shrink.

     

     

    HH

  9. Burgas Hoops on

    Dharma Bam

     

     

    Sorry to butt in, but i agreed with Canamalar’s post 100% and Paul knows i didn’t mean any disrespect to him at all.

     

     

    i cant speak for Canamalar but i’m sure he didn’t either.

  10. Turkey…,

     

    Celtic should be suing the mail for that, they have published that John Guidetti was committing an offence branding him a criminal.

  11. Jimmynotpaul on

    Turkeybhoy.

     

    I understand r.e. calling them Huns but I have to say I love Zombie. All the ones I know really hate it. If you call them a hun, they either become uppity or wear it as a badge of honour. Calling them a zombie gets a brilliant reaction.

  12. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Lennon18 welcome to the blog, no need for the ritual question as your moniker is good enough for me, anybody looking for some cash for Cheltenham get on Juventus tonight with both teams scoring, Sassuolo not a bad wee bet for a goal

  13. bournesouprecipe

     

    12:48 on

     

    9 March, 2015,

     

     

    You can go on record if you like.We would look like fools.Try telling other teams(not the huns)that we always get robbed.They would laugh in your face.Not your best post,but well done for trying to make it more plausible.

     

    As for the ref.He was conned.Like hundreds before him.No shame in that.My first impression was a penalty.From where the ref was I am sure it looked a stonewaller.Only from the side can you see the ,no contact,dive.

     

    My last on this.

     

    HAIL HAIL.

  14. After all that’s gone on over the years , ie the shame game where the only one to be punished was Lennon . Tonev ,affair . Borichter (sp) conviction . monster munch , not proven . Cifcti overturned to play against celtic . And on and on and on . Yet some on here think VVD and brownie will escape . Or that cficti will get banned . Or Connelly get done for simulation . Poppycock . The compliance officer is an SFA post .and we all know what that means for celtic . With regards the only way to beat the haters of celtic being on the park , playing the celtic way . A dam hard ask , when the main men to playing the celtic way are sitting in the stand , serving bans . We now have a huge chance of playing the cup semi final and final without vvd . Johanson . Brownie . Who I would fancy you will agree . Are celtics best three players .

  15. Turkeybhoy

     

    What’s the matter with Hun monkeys? ??

     

    Nothing. Call it as it is.

     

    HH

  16. CELTIC striker John Guidetti has appeared on Dutch TV singing “the huns are deid”.

     

     

    The Hoops forward, on-loan at Parkhead from Manchester City, sang the song while being interviewed on Holland’s FC Rijnmond football programme.

     

     

    He sang: “Oh John Guidetti, puts the ball in the net-y, he’s a Super Swede and the huns are deid, walking in Guidetti wonderland.”

     

     

    Afterwards the 22-year-old Celtic star said the terracing chant was “a good song”.

     

     

    A number of Rangers fans have now taken to Twitter accusing the Swede of using an offensive term.

     

     

    It follows a recent petition lobbying the Scottish Parliament to have the use of word “deid” outlawed.

  17. Does that mean you know more than you let on, to make you think that I’m disingenuous?

     

     

    I comment that your post at 12.57 doesn’t sound like you’re being very polite to Paul67, the person on whose blog you’re posting and that means you can call me names?

  18. OT alert:

     

     

    I have a question for any regular Dublin to Glasgow fliers out there: I’ll shortly be making a return trip, Glasgow Dublin, booked through Aer Lingus,

     

     

    However, I see that I’ll actually be flying with Aer Lingus’ regional partner, Stobart Air (presumably it won’t be a flying juggernaut, but we’ll see).

     

     

    Anyway, I have a question about cabin baggage dimensions: Aer Lingus’ website says that ‘Regional Carrier’ size limits are 48cm x 33cm x 20cm (which, in case you’re interested, is c.10% smaller than the limits for flights on Aer Lingus’s own planes).

     

     

    What I want to know is, will my bag, which is 50cm x 33cm x 22cm, pass the Stobart Air checkin desk luggage gauge … ?

     

     

    VIP

  19. mncelt @15.00hrs.

     

     

    Having words outlawed like “deid” comes as no surprise, sure they attempted to redefine the word liquidation.

     

     

    HH.

  20. excathedra44 on

    Geordie Munro

     

    14:26 on

     

    9 March, 2015

     

     

    Geordie you could be right I’ll have another look at the incident.

     

     

    Right from the first tackle on Stokes it was inevitable we were going to get very little leeway.

  21. Damn,

     

     

    Just got an offer to go the final on Sunday, and had to refuse it. Young son playing in the Feile final on Sunday morning.

     

     

    Grrr.

     

     

    Árd Macha

  22. Jimtim..,

     

    Hear hear, and there’s them that forget that the rotten mobs nine in a row and all titles since were the result of cheating. But dumb and dumber still find excuses for excusing the cheating with their we shall overcome nonsense, get the ball down and play them the Celtic way, honestly if it wasn’t so pitiful I’d be bursting a gut laughing instead of getting so frustrated.

     

    It doesn’t matter how bad we are cheated we will always have our useful idiots distracting from the problem by blaming our own.

  23. Alfie Noakes on

    Celtic’s comprehensive defeat of Aberdeen opened up the ‘road to the treble’ and we all looked forward to a continuation of that form.

     

     

    In the next match against St Johnstone the balloon was deflated and we were back to the type of performance displayed against Inverness (away) and Ross County(home) – low intensity – sitting off the game and, unable to put away even one opportunity.

     

     

    That result could be forgotten and put right in the context of the league campaign as a whole – a blip!

     

     

    However the display at Tannadice was exactly the same, outwith the shenanigans that went on. United were allowed to be the pressing team – we were disjointed – once more we allowed the opposition goalkeeper to be ‘man of the match’ by poor finishing.

     

     

    We have injuries and ineligible players to contend with at present and don’t have the luxury of putting out our best eleven on the park – however we are kidding ourselves if we think that the likes of Stokes, Forrest and Guidetti are going to ‘step up to the mark’ over the next two months. Every move breaks down when it gets to Stokes – Forrest is ineffectual and seems to have completely lost his confidence and Guidetti just keeps missing and ‘bad touching’ at every juncture.

     

     

    I don’t think the cups are on now, GMS and Armstrong are big misses for us – but I worry that the aforesaid injuries and suspensions, together with a fixture glut, may see us lose the league by default.

     

     

    I said that after the Aberdeen game we were on the ‘road to the treble’ – seems to me that some of our players have realised where we are, and quite frankly are not up for the fight – or maybe they don’t fancy it.

     

     

    Finally, on a positive, if not bitter sweet note – I thought that Jason Denayer was brilliant yesterday – we will miss him next season.

  24. squire danaher on

    Lhads

     

     

    Cheltenham Festival tomorrow until Friday

     

     

    Well known, ahem, “shrewd” Irish trainer AJ Martin has an interesting prospect in the 2:40 race, 3m 1f handicap chase tomorrow.

     

     

    Horse had busy season last year, quieter time this year and, shall we say, tenderly campaigned with no doubt a tilt at a big Festival handicap on the agenda.

     

     

    Cards have all fallen into place, scrapes in at the bottom of the handicap, top jockey BJ Cooper on board.

     

     

    Name of the Horse ?

     

     

    One for all big hearted Celtic folks.

     

     

    GALLANT OSCAR

     

     

    14/1 still available with Ladbrokes, 12s generally available.

  25. The Johnatron on

    In this day and age, should referees themselves not be able to alter decisions post-match, which may perhaps become the first step in the introduction to full in-match tv assistance/reviews? Some of the decisions yesterday were so blatantly incorrect that the referee should have the facility to correct any bookings before an appeal is necessary, at a not insignificant cost to the club(s).

  26. The Green Man on

    Huns don’t like being called huns……fecking hilarious……its like being zapped back to a 15th century John Knox lecture.

     

    They are totally fecking brainless morons.

     

    Zombies….with no minds of their own.

     

    It beggers belief in 2015….that people can be so backward.

     

    But….that’s the huns for you…..beyond any kind of human redemption.

     

    They hate everyone and everything….including themselves.

     

    I don’t think I have the words to express their ignorance.

     

     

    HH

  27. Geordie Munro on

    Philbhoy,

     

     

    Can’t say yet neebs. He’s not fit right now but might be ok for weekend.

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