Celtic’s valiant capitulation last night had a familiar feel to it. We took the game to Milan, bossed them in many areas while the tie was still close enough to be called a contest, created chances but had no cutting edge and lost heavily, at home, to what is clearly the weakest of four Milan teams we have faced in the last decade. It was a similar story when Juventus came to Glasgow last season.
Am I the only one who thought it was familiar from stirring European nights of the 80s? Take on one of the most experience teams in Europe with two out-and-out wingers, inspire for a time but only earn a lesson in how unforgiving the game can be at the top level. Or at least, hope we learned a lesson.
We loved it in the 80s, of course, but it was like going to school when Martin O’Neill arrived and taught us how to win in Europe. Despite the defeat, the 10 men got it right at home to Barca, and in the home win over Ajax, where we allowed the visitors the majority of possession and territory, but with four minutes on the clock and Celtic playing well last night, I noted the game was “worryingly open”.
In Europe, an open game means defeat. We don’t have the midfield or attack to win playing adventurously. When setup properly, we can defend as well as anyone in Europe, this is our irrefutable strength, play to it.
Paul McConville
The first thing I did when I met Paul McConville at the Columba Club on Friday was dig him up for not being in touch recently. This gave him an opportunity to wax enthusiastically about the consuming joy of being back on the tools as a solicitor in Glasgow. He was a man who had arrived exactly where he wanted to be in life.
He was so full of drive, clarity of vision and purpose that it was with utter disbelieve I heard the news of his sudden passing yesterday.
As anyone who read Random Thoughts Re Scots Law knew, he loved his family. He also loved practicing law and held Albion Rovers in high affection. He was not, as has been suggested, part of the Celtic family. Had the snake oil salesmen turned up at Celtic Park they would have endured the same forensic analysis from Paul as he applied elsewhere, but he was an important friend and resource to our community, and ultimately our club, during an historically important time.
To most of us he was a unique blogger. Cheerful, incisive and unrelenting. He charted the story of Rangers insolvency, administration and liquidation, then picked up the even more complicated events surrounding the phoenix.
When asked on Friday why he had been less industrious recently, specifically covering the leaks from Charlotte Fakes, he conceded he just didn’t have the time anymore; he was back litigating and loving it.
The personal cost of his blogging was often all too clear, he was out there, but Paul managed to retain his determination not to be browbeaten, while enduring the numptites with more good grace and humour than most of us could muster. Before taking up his new role in Glasgow he worked a few minutes walk from me. We collaborated on a number of matters in recent years and marked one auspicious afternoon last year by sharing a bottle of Champagne; a genuinely treasured memory.
The fragility of it all is breathtaking. Our condolences to the McConville family. May he rest in peace.
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GG You have a point…. But you must admit, in your considerable experience, the Tims They Are A Changing…. :0))))
It’s let’s Give Thanks for Turkeys season where I am…. But these days who are the Turkeys? Bernard Mathews knew…. A few on here think they are Bernard too….
Some may equate the GB with Turkeys given their timing. That would be as simplistic as a 30 second commercial.
After some thought and soul searching, I now consider the actions of the GB to be Honest and Elegant. A rare thing these days. The vitriol poured out against a banner of two misinterpreted historical characters is intriguing. The GB, in my opinion, have split opinion, like all good Art should. It is making people think, or making people show they do not think at all.
When you apply a sliver of critical thinking to the events of the last few years in Scottish Football, Scottish politics, British politics and International relations… It is way too simplistic to accuse the GB of stupidity. They have called the PLC, the media, the Scottish Parliament and International bodies on their lack of leadership, Integrity and honour.
Who would support the GB on this brave assessment that the Emperor is Naked….Maybe their ain folk… But I know who could not and would not. The PLC, the Media (market dictates), politicians (market dictates), and ‘supporters’ who are concerned with kow towing to whatever the rules of the market are (ego dictates)…. That is a significant machine to offend. If I offend you, no apology.
The GB made a point that was prescient and undeniably true…if they are to be criticized at all, it would be for being a little too sophisticated for your average information consumer.
If you doubt that, look to the image of William Wallace in Stirling.
If you doubt that, look at what is happening to political expression in the MSM.
If you doubt that, look at the introduction of a law in Scotland that appeals to emotions, demographics and the agendas of PR firms..
If you doubt that consider the actions/inactions of our PLC. Such is the paradigm we exist within.
Authentic Art should provoke debate about Truth. Some people find even thinking about that unpalatable, and commenting on it treacherous…
That should worry all of us no matter our position.
REBELS stepped up their bid to win control of Rangers last night — as it emerged an angry ex-worker reported the crisis-hit club to fraud cops.
Emails shown to The Scottish Sun reveal the woman shopped Ibrox bosses to the elite Serious Fraud Office this summer.
Former Director … Paul Murray
The details emerged as investors bidding to oust the current Ibrox regime called for finance supremo Brian Stockbridge, 40, to QUIT. The rebel shareholders said under-fire Stockbridge should walk over his “personal conduct” — and for allowing the club to spend too much cash after it was floated on the stock market.
A stinging statement released by the group — including Paul Murray, Jim McColl and Malcolm Murray — confirmed the fraud report claim.
It said: “We have been provided with a statement from an ex-employee of the club questioning various payments made to certain shareholders around the time of the initial public offering.”
The documents show the female former employee emailed the London-based Serious Fraud Office in July alleging wrongdoing in relation to payments made to shareholders.
We can reveal an SFO investigator asked the woman to save text messages and a mobile phone sim card.
The woman, in her 30s, left the club earlier this year, moved to London, and is thought to live abroad.
It’s unclear if the SFO launched a formal investigation, but an officer asked the woman for more information in a series of emails.
The SFO polices down south but can link up with Scots cops and prosecutors for cross-border probes.
The Scottish Sun understands the wrongdoing alleged by the ex-employee refers to payments made to investors who lost out as they bought shares at £1 each BEFORE the floatation — which saw shares sold at just 70p.
Stockbridge has previously rejected claims that the payments made to investors were illegal.
Rangers raised more than £20million from investors when the club floated on the stock market in the initial public offering last December.
But the club’s huge overheads — despite their League One status — means the coffers, overseen by finance director Stockbridge, have been emptying rapidly ever since.
Shareholders led by magnate McColl and ex-board members Murray and Murray have claimed a major overhaul is needed — but Stockbridge has clung as a new top team including chairman David Somers and chief exec Graham Wallace has been appointed around him.
Last week the current regime won the backing of a major hedge fund investor, meaning they might now have enough votes to see off McColl and the Murrays’ coup bid at next month’s annual general meeting.
Under fire … Brian Stockbridge
But yesterday the rebels branded Stockbridge’s position as “untenable”.
They added: “He should resign or be voted off the board at the AGM.
“He has presided over significant outflows of cash from the club since the initial public offering.
“In addition his personal conduct has fallen a long way short of the standards expected at Rangers.”
The finance chief revealed earlier this year that Rangers had spent the equivalent of the £22million war chest raised on the stock market in less than nine months — but insisted it had been used for necessary costs.
Last night an Ibrox spokesman said: “Rangers have not been conta-cted by the SFO and are completely unaware of any investigation.
“We can only assume confidential information an ex-employee leaked to the requisitioners was in relation to the payments to certain shareholders that was looked at by two sets of lawyers and the NOMAD (stock market advisor) at the time and then subject to an additional specific review.”
Police Scotland are already investigating alleged criminality during ex-chief exec Craig Whyte’s reign at Rangers and other lines of inquiry — and have quizzed boss Ally McCoist.
The SFO refused to comment, and Police Scotland would only say their inquiry into Whyte’s Rangers takeover was ongoing.
pjbhoynyc
Great post.
The answer stop giving them money.
HH
KAKA last night told shattered Celtic: You’ll be back.
The Samba superstar set AC Milan on the road to Champions League victory on Tuesday night.
The 3-0 Group H defeat sent the Scottish champions spinning out of Europe.
But Brazil ace Kaka insists the Hoops are certain to be back in Europe’s elite tournament next term.
He said: “We might have won by three goals but it’s still a daunting place to come.
“They’re always hard games and in Scotland they make an atmosphere like no other team.
“It might be over this season for Celtic in terms of playing in European competition.
“But they have the character to have a very good season again in Europe next year.”
Kaka headed Milan into an early lead before Cristian Zapata and Mario Balotelli sealed the win.
Milan will join leaders Barcelona in the last 16 with a point at home to Ajax.
But Kaka left Neil Lennon’s side with heaps of praise for the fans who applauded him off the pitch.
The Milan maestro added: “I already knew that Celtic were a great club. But they have shown their real class by clapping me off the field.
“The game was over and they knew that they were out of the Champions League.
“To clap a player of the opposition in those circumstances shows what their fans are all about.
“Progressing through the group stage of the Champions League is financially very lucrative for clubs — but you can’t buy class like that.
“I was truly humbled by the behaviour of the Celtic fans.”
Kaka ended Celts’ hopes in the last 16 under Gordon Strachan with an extra-time winner in the San Siro in 2007.
And he’s eyeing a return to the knockout stage after the decider against Ajax at the San Siro on December 11.
He added: “We have to wait until the final game to see if we progress but in this group that is not a surprise.
“It was always going to be hard and it is a group where anybody can beat anybody.
“Qualification is in our hands now, though, and in a group of this quality that is all you can ask for going into the final game.”
Kaka’s midfield protector Nigel de Jong has admitted he expected better from Celts.
The former Manchester City star said: “I was expecting a little bit more from Celtic but we put them under pressure and took the chances when they came along.
“For Milan, the Champions League is as important as the championship.
“We are not in a good place at the moment but three points and a 3-0 victory is very welcome.
“We showed how dangerous we can be. We were very sharp right from the start.
“We were lucky at the start of the second half with the chance Virgil van Dijk had but after that we were comfortable.
“The next game against Ajax is now very important.”
Milan’s veteran keeper Christian Abbiati admitted he had to shut out the noise of the home support as he helped his side to a crucial win.
Abbiati made a couple of vital saves, especially from a van Dijk volley.
And he admitted: “All I could hear was the Celtic fans singing.
“We had to close them out and concentrate on ourselves.
“We attacked Celtic from the start and the whole team were excellent.
“This victory can be the start of our season.”
Meanwhile, Milan chief Adriano Galliani reckons their Ultras fans should follow the example of Celtic supporters.
Milan fans revolted at the weekend following another woeful Serie A display against Genoa with their hardcore Ultras demanding face to face meetings with the players.
Chief executive Galliani was thrilled that the Italians recovered from that experience to beat Celtic in Glasgow.
And he too was impressed with the home support.
He said: “I saw the Celtic fans cheering and supporting their team even when 3-0 down. I would invite our supporters in the stands to reflect on that.
“I don’t know if it was any better for us to play away from the San Siro, but I truly don’t understand the mentality of those who put up such banners.
“They wrote that we tarnished our history, well Milan wouldn’t have a history without Silvio Berlusconi.
“But on the football side of things, we were terrific.
“Kaka and Mario Balotelli were magnificent and the players showed grit and determination at a difficult venue.”
TnT – Apache Stronghold for Chelters.
Over & out.
awe_naw_no_annoni_oan_anaw_noo
06:05 on 28 November, 2013
pjbhoynyc
Great post.
The answer stop giving them money.
HH
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Cheers.
I agree. And I say that reluctantly….. However…
I consider the currant situation more serious than the last time it was seriously raised, and successfully implemented.
Why? Different Times and Different Tims.
Breaks my heart, the loss of soul.
HH
GoodNight ……Globalization
Good Morning,
Now here is some good old fashioned muck raking disguised as financial journalism.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-2514682/Co-op-Bank-slammed-cheap-loans-Celtic-Football-Club.html
Good morning friends from a damp underfoot but currently precipitation free (and mild for late November) East Kilbride.
BRTH
I read that too. A bank being investigated for “cheap” loans above the bank of england interest rate? Whike no journalist goes on about a “club” ditching its creditors and starting afresh while pretending that nothing has happened?
Hendrix67
I think you will find that the loans and overdraft facilities were agreed on a tracker basis and reflect a percentage above the BOE base rate.
Lots of banks did that at the time– effectively just working on a margin.
Nothing unusual about it at all.
Morning all.
I watched the Leverkusen – Manure game last night and despite the scoreline Manure were fairly ordinary, while Leverkusen were absolutely dreadful. Dreadful in a way that Celtic were not.
Worth watching a rerun if anybody gets a chance – to gain some perspective.
Recent ‘ish’ article regarding naming a street in Paris.
Thatcher Row in Paris
Boulevard Blanqui named Louis-Auguste Blanqui, one of French history’s most radical leftists, known for his conspiratorial strategies and whom even Marx and Lenin thought too extreme. He sought to implement socialism by mobilising secret armed groups to seize power and crush the bourgeoisie and spent a total of 33 years behind bars.
Whilst a song fondly recalling Margaret Thatcher – ‘Ding Dong The Witch is Dead’ – soars up the British pop charts, an attempt by a right-wing Paris councilor to name a street after Thatcher has been denounced by a left-wing politician who says it would be more appropriate to name a street after Bobby Sands.
City Councillor Jerome Dubus of the right-wing UMP party has said that at the next council meeting he will propose naming a street or a square after Thatcher, the former war criminal, who Following the announcement of Thatcher‘s death on Monday, UMP councillor Jerome Dubus said he would submit a proposal for a street or square to be named after Thatcher, as a “a small gesture for a great lady”.
But Councillor Ian Brossat, of the Communist-backed Left Front, denounced the move and said the city would do better to honour Bobby Sands.
“Lacking any personality and a leader, the UMP is looking for its good fairy in the past, and across the Channel… The cynicism of the Parisian right knows no bounds,” Brossat said. “Jerome Dubus’s proposal is a joke…. Thatcher was the apostle of British ultra-liberalism, who left an appalling legacy for the state and the working classes.”
“It would be better to name a street after Bobby Sands whom Thatcher allowed to die of hunger with other prisoners.”
Several French cities already have a Rue Bobby Sands. Paris has made a habit of immortalising eminent figures from history through its street signs including philosophers, scientists, writers, artists and revolutionaries.
BRTH
Exactly, its a non story, nothing illegal but when has that ever stopped the msm from dragging our name through the muck.
PJBhoynyc
05:47 on
28 November, 2013
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Excellent post.
morning all
i thought the mama cass version of this was so much better
http://youtu.be/My2FRPA3Gf8
HH
Green Brigade Statement
27th November 2013
As a member of Fans Against Criminalisation
the Green Brigade are fully committed to
highlighting, challenging and tackling the
systemised campaign of criminalisation and
harassment – orchestrated by the Scottish
Government and implemented by Police
Scotland – against the Celtic support.
At the risk of covering old ground, the Scottish
Government are responsible for drafting and
implementing a ridiculous piece of legislation
which, through their own admission, aims to
make the arrest figures between both sides of
the Glasgow divide even – regardless of the
act or crime in question. In practice, for the
Celtic support this has resulted in expressions
of Irish identity, culture and politics being
deemed illegal.
One prominent example is the criminalisation
of the song ‘Roll of Honour’ which is a lament
commemorating ten Irish martyrs who died on
hunger strike in Long Kesh in 1981. These
men died primarily fighting the criminalisation
of themselves and their struggle in a bid to be
recognised as political prisoners. Now, in
Scotland, it is deemed illegal to remember and
honour their sacrifice. The number of fans
being charged for doing so continually rises
as Police Scotland continues to film and
harass our support at every turn.
On Saturday 23rd November we highlighted
the sheer hypocrisy of the legislation with a
simple banner display. On the 10th minute
and 81st minute a banner of the letter H was
unveiled while ‘Roll of Honour’ was sung.
Alongside this banner appeared two further
banners containing the following lyric from the
Scottish national anthem: ‘they fought and
died for; their wee bit hill and glen’.
Similarly, on Tuesday 26th November we
unveiled another banner display to further our
point and emphasise the Scottish
Government’s hypocrisy. At this match two
banners depicting a Scottish and an Irish
freedom fighter were shown along with the
slogan: ‘The terrorist or the dreamer; the
savage or the brave? Depends whose vote
you’re trying to catch or whose face you’re
trying to save’. The statement being made was
that it is both hypocritical and discriminatory
to celebrate the Scottish nationalist struggle
while criminalising the Irish nationalist
struggle. Ultimately, due to the subjective
nature of what anyone may deem ‘offensive’, it
is both dangerous and absurd to create a law
based upon offensiveness.
The Green Brigade are disappointed by the
statement made by Celtic Football Club in
regards to this incident. The Club’s statement
claims that we assured them that our display
would be purely football related but that in
fact it had nothing to do with football. In
reality however what was assured to them was
that our plans were completely relative to
Celtic and indeed football. Given that it is
Celtic fans who are filling up prison cells and
court rooms because of the Offensive
Behaviour at Football Act, and the manner in
which it criminalises legitimate expression of
political opinion, this display could not have
been more relevant in the current context. The
fans are the lifeblood of any football club and
to deem fan issues as irrelevant is frankly
disgraceful.
While we understand and sympathise fully
with fans who may disagree with the timing of
last night’s display we are honest enough to
admit that the timing was of no coincidence.
This act has been in place for over 18 months
yet the club have offered next to no support to
the fans on this matter. As a group we were
told that Celtic Football Club would publicly
support the fans on this issue. Regrettably,
this has not transpired in spite of the fact that
public pressure could have had a telling
impact on the Justice Committee as they
discussed the possibility of an early review of
the act.
It is our opinion that the level of apathy from
Celtic PLC towards the criminalisation of their
supporters is unforgivable. We find their
accusation of the Green Brigade disrespecting
the club to be completely ironic and totally
laughable when we consider the level of
disrespect they have repeatedly shown to their
supporters for far too long – never mind the
desecrating of our Club’s proud history and
values with the firm objection to implementing
the ‘living wage’.
Whilst the Club may wish to wash their hands
of pressing fan issues we will not falter in our
attempts to challenge the injustice of this
legislation nor how Police Scotland
implements it. As the number of Celtic fans
banned from games continues to grow and the
court cases and all additional baggage piles
up we will stand by them, we will stand with
the Celtic support and as always we will
defend our right to cultural and political
expression.
Football & Politics – any comments with regard to the SNP Logo being on prominent display at various grounds in Scotland? Breaking any fitba’ laws?
Winning Captain and Team – half way through the Annual, great read, well done to all.
HH
Self indulgent crap by the Green Brigade
Pjbhoynyc:
Great post.
The message of the display was to point out hypocrisy.
The hypocrisy of those who utilise historical figures of one nationalist struggle for their own political purposes whilst condemning the recognition of a different nationalist struggle as unacceptable.
The hypocrisy of an establishment stuffing political concepts down our throats whilst attempting to outlaw the expression of alternative political views.
The hypocrisy of simultaneously condemning anti-establishment political expression in a footballing context whilst celebrating pro-establishment political expression in the context of a rival football club.
The display pointed out this hypocrisy without espousing overt support for any particular organisation or political cause.
For me, only the hypocrite could be offended…
Timing, strategy, etc are secondary questions. The invective from many Celtic fans is indicative of the ‘broad church’ that is the Celtic support. Sad that many I welcome and respect as part of the Celtic family would seemingly deny that right to others.
Tom: your comparison with republican sentiment expressed in certain pubs is flawed. A pub is primarily a place to drink and socialise, not to express political views. A football club is primarily a place to watch football, not to express political views. That said, politics is everywhere. Just as I would expect a person not to be offended by witnessing political expression of a certain vein if they enter a certain pub, I would similarly expect a person not to be offended by witnessing political expression of a certain vein if they watch a certain team.
Not all Sevco fans are loyalists but I would expect to witness expression of loyalist political views if I went to Ibrox. I would only be offended by bigotry and racism not loyalism…
The GB aren’t the political voice of Celtic supporters.
They’re just very naughty boys
Good morning CQNers,
PJBhoynyc @ 05:47 on…… Absolutely.
Because governments have made it almost impossible to take political demonstrations to the highways it’s no real surprise the GB have taken proclaiming their statements from the stands.
You’ve got to say the GB political message wasn’t anywhere near as provocative as this.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/nov/27/boris-johnson-thatcher-greed-good
I think the GB are on to something. In 1950s eastern Europe football crowds used the anonymity of the terrace to voice their feelings about the police and the regime.
Much of the GB stuff isn’t just good, it’s brilliant. But they are more fixated with 1980s Irish politics than the Irish. Sands could have been a towering figure in any era and he merits respect. The danger for the GB is that they become increasingly out of context and out of date.
West Wales Celt
07:51 on
28 November, 2013
All well and good,but ,whether we like it or not,UEFA says no.
Political banners and subsequent suicide.
Is that what you want for our Celtic?
The G.B.obviously don`t give a damn.
I do.
Who is unaware that FIFA and UEFA are corrupt organisations?
Are the G.B. going to change that?
Really?
Just in to say….
Well, it looks as though the ‘bored’ will empty the park
one way or another. Ban the GB and a fair chunk will disappear
‘off oot’ fae the stadium as a result. imo
Continue to take Cellic fans money, player sales money, CL money, merchandise money etc…money…..etc…money…etc….and p#ss it all up against a wall in terms of player recruitment is, on one hand – mismanagement on a grand ole scale.
On the other hand – is something else going on here ?
Ah mean, surely with the ‘savvy’ financial heavyweights(co Hugh Adams) on the ‘bored’
the penny would have dropped by now that the, recruitment policy is at best, flawed, or, at worst – a racket ?
Either way – Celtic will not be Celtic until – Jeanette Findlay-esque figures are in ‘control’ of the club. imo
Away off oot.
KevJungle – todays Cellic fans ‘Taken to school’ by the ‘bored’.
08:12 on
28 November, 2013
Just in to say….
Either way – Celtic will not be Celtic until – Jeanette Findlay-esque figures are in ‘control’ of the club. imo
Away off oot.
Finally the agenda is admitted.
A retrospective:
Michael Foot and the longest suicide note in history.
Macjay:
How are you pal?
I think a similar question could have been posed when the Scottish football establishment wanted the club to stop flying the tricolour. Would you really have wanted it taken down if fines had been levied?
Celtic was conceived from the seeds of Irish misery.
Since I can remember, back to ’63, Celtic Supporters have sung about Ireland and her troubles, inside the walls of Parkhead. Some of the songs were soft ballads, some of the songs were more nationalist.
Bobby Sands…? He was a member of the UK Parliament, just like Margret Thatcher was. Some say Bobby Sands was active in the IRA, some say Margret Thatcher was worse, much worse,like when she played God and ordered the sinking of the ARA General Belgrano, how many hundreds of violent, horrible, painful, deaths, did her decision cause; and added to that the God like kill Danny McCann, Sean Savage and Mairéad Farrell. That from a prime minister of a country that has no laws to allow assassination.
Had the Green Brigade muraled Maggie would the Club be in any shit?
I once asked on here was Bobby Sands a Celtic Supporter…. I’ve heard he was. William Wallace, now that is beyond my circle of friends, living or long dead.
Sanitise Celtic of their spiritual soul and you won’t even have a Glasgow Hibernian. You’ll hear the roar from Ibrox in Parkhead on matchday, and that’ll be the roar from the huns reserves, only they don’t have such a team; but you’ll still hear their roar.
The Green Brigade are made up of a lot of young kids and young adults trying to find their way in life and understand who they really are as individuals in this world.
To scorn them out of hand is to take a bath without water; you won’t ever understand and you’ll always stink of hypocrisy.
Scorn without empathy, Maggies killers were evolved from that mark I mould.
I never knew Paul McConville; I don’t know, nor care, his history and affiliations, but I know I’m going to miss him.
My condolences to his family and loved ones.
kitalba
you tell them palomine.BRILL.
Morning all. Brightish down here. Is CQN any brighter this morning??
PJBhoynyc
05:47 on
28 November, 2013
An excellent post. Had the banner been at a league game it would have been met with an uncomfortable silence because that is the easy option. After Uefa got involved that wasn’t an option so plan B was implemented. Now the drive is on to have the message spectacularly missed or misconstrued. Either on purpose or through lack of intelligence. The former by the MSM, the latter on here.
Give us your cash, not your opinion. Give us your voices, not your words. Homogeneous corrupt corporate blandness, conform to the hypocrisy or get slaughtered. The fact that so many ‘Tims’ can’t see it, or worse, accept it is a poor reflection on them and on our history.
Kaka the latest to praise our great fans. Sick reading all these great players praising our fans. I want them players to be saying Celtic were better team and deserved to win not gallant losers with great fans.
Extremely worried as to direction this team is going!
Obviously not….
Celtic can’t afford to pay the living wage? Seems strange to me. Can we see the figures, please?
West Wales Celt
08:18 on
28 November, 2013
Macjay:
How are you pal?
I think a similar question could have been posed when the Scottish football establishment wanted the club to stop flying the tricolour. Would you really have wanted it taken down if fines had been levied?
You`re a gentleman,WWC.
We both want the same thing and see different means of achieving it.
George Graham wanted the flag down and the marvellous,and much maligned, Bob Kelly fought our corner tooth and nail.
What Celtic did subsequently(mid `60s or so),very quietly,without fuss or publicity was to place a large number of flags of different nations atop the Jungle.
Effective and smart.
The “issue “was gone.
It is really a pity the self indulgent GB decided to lie to the club and deliberately choose a match knowing their actions would bring trouble to the club.
Similarly, they knew this would embarrass the club and force the type of statement the club was bound to issue.
Why would they do this? To promote their agenda (whether legitimate or not) at the expense of the club? To divide the support? To promote a self viewed higher ideal?
Whatever it was it certainly was decided to promote something with little concern as to the consequences for the club and/or its reputation.
That is fair enough if that was their intention and now everyone knows their agenda is always ahead of the agenda of supporting the Celtic football club.
Everyone can now take up a position with this knowledge secured.
For myself, about to give up my ST for purely financial reasons, I go to Celtic park to see and support Celtic full stop. Political posturing and self promotion is not for me, nor I’d suggest the vast majority of fans.
GB and friends = Militant Tendency + Scargills children.
Is apathy a by-product of wealth – or is wealth the cream of apathy?
How much coin do you have to bank before you sever, and forget forever, your roots, your souls creation, and your childhood’s poor joys; deleted and overwritten forever by intoxicating septic affluence’s.
Leave me my soul, you can keep your bank balance.