I see a justification for yesterday’s vote has been issued. The chairman of one club spoke to several of my contacts in the media with a completely different version, using both the F word and the C word.
Apparently he believes several SPL clubs are being led by the C word – Celtic. Or to be more precise, “F***ing Celtic”, a name reserved for use by a specific demographic. All off the record, of course, but incredibly indiscrete, betraying his world view.
If that’s how you feel, man up and say so publicly. Tell us who you think is really bringing Scottish football to its knees, I am sure everyone will agree this is a time for frankness.
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SOAL -I would like them to play ‘The very Thing that makes Her Rich [will make you Poor]’.
or anything by Flux of Pink Indians.
BBC Website:
‘First Division clubs have been invited to a Monday meeting where the creation of a second tier of the Scottish Premier League will be discussed.’
SPL2 campaign about to start.
Down with Sevco and everything they represent.
ernie lynch
“The anger and suspicions of the other SPL chairmen were widely reported in the MSM.
I assume that they will have more knowledge and understanding than us of what motivated Gilmour and what his agenda is.”
I have only read the Aberdeen chairman as being heavily critical. I think Stevie Thompson was more measured and Peter Lawwell’s tone was resigned more than angry.
I can understand that they are frustrated that St. Mirren did not vote as they did but, if they are hinting that it was done for Sevco’s benefit, they are a) going to have to make that charge more clearly, rather than merely hint, and b) They are going to have to explain and convince customers (i.e. us) why these proposals are so necesary and so urgent.
For me:-
One ruling body- A good idea but we can strugle on without it as we are doing currently
Promotion & Relegation- Will go on as before with a daft Top6/ Bottom 6 split rather than a daft 8/8/8 split which merely gives us something new to complain about.
fairer distribution of cash- There was a one-off “bribe” to help out struggling Div. 1 clubs but no serious commitment to Celtic’s money being used to help keep afloat clubs who are spending above their income. If there had been, we would be campaigning against it.
Pyramid System- No reason why this cannot be implemented as a stand alone measure with or without all the other league reconstruction measures.
As I said, these proposals seem to get club chairmen heated but have left fans pretty cold. We are energised by the conspiracy theory that St. Mirren are aligning with Sevco and are more outraged about that than we are at what they are actually conspiring to do.
A wee question in the Guardian today. I wonder if any former football clubs fit the bill?
“Conceivably (at least until last Tuesday), Málaga could have won the Champions League without being able to contend the trophy next year due to a Uefa ban. Has any team ever won a trophy only to be unable to defend their title because of a banning order?” inquires Craig Fawcett.
Chuckles has achieved his short term objective, i.e. remove the glare of publicity from sevco. He would have been well aware of CW’s intention to whistleblow on the 5088/sevco shenanigans, he was also aware of financial instability elsewhere (since CW was given unfettered access to the books and the GEF would have shared this info with his fellow board members).
The explanation offered by CG-we discussed players wages/agents etc and did not discuss reorganisation- like so many sevcovians, just doesn’t wash.
Chuckles wanted to be noticed, coincidentally he is wrongly attributed with influence, Gilmour is a patsy. Why else would Chuckles issue a further statement telling the MSM to lay off Gilmour?
Any word on the sevco commission?
dirtymac
10:44 on
17 April, 2013
DBBIA, it is over-priced, both here and in England. Just be glad we dont have these: Arsenal’s non-member ticket prices
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I spent a year in N London, the year before Hiilsbrough. I used to watch Arsenal from the North bank, I think it cost £6 and you could still pay at the gate back then. Sad what’s happened to football since then, I think.
Unemployment up 70,000 and announced on the day of Thatcher’s funeral.
I’d say that was apt.
Quick post:
Ding Dong in London.
Tick Tock in Glasgow.
Happy Days.
HH
Spot on Che…
DBBIA
Flux of Pink Indians .
Saw this in a Soho choons emporium’s window when their second LP was released.-
” In stock now ——- Flux of Pink Indians —— The ******* ***** Treat Us Like ******..
We think the only good thing about it is the title “
sparkleghirl- TV has happened to football. A Faustian pact that as times goes on looks more and more harmful.
Headtheball,
here’s the thing with that. SFL clubs need to give two years notice to leave the SFL, unless, like the SPL, they cut a deal, by means of an overwhelming voting majority (66%+???) to allow them to leave.
To do so previously, the SPL had to give the SFL a sweetener, can’t recall the amount, but it was a set amount and another percentage of income above a trigger amount, say £500k per year plus 10% of anything over £5m (I’ve plucked these from the top of my head, so nobody shoot the messenger).
What could an SPL2 offer in terms of recompense for the loss of 10 (12??) clubs from the SFL? Presumably, the SPL would need to once more meet up and this time agree to SPL2 being ratified and being given a very healthy wedge of TV money in order to pay the SFL clubs to push through a majority vote.
I can think of about 15 clubs who would easily and happily vote for SPL2 with certain straight forward and easily met conditions, but not enough to carry the vote and allow them to just up sticks.
So, what gives? More SPL meetings and shenanigans for some time. Or have they already taken place? When do the ST renewals have to be back again? Campaign time looms, again, methinks.
Sof Tunis -and yet they were Denis Thatcher’s favourites.
Nothing he’d like more of an evening than to pour himself a stiff chota peg and put ‘Strive to Survive Causing the Least Suffering Possible’ on the ole Downing St radiogramme.
A wee e-mail sent off to the Guardian:
“Conceivably (at least until last Tuesday), Málaga could have won the Champions League without being able to contend the trophy next year due to a Uefa ban. Has any team ever won a trophy only to be unable to defend their title because of a banning order?” inquires Craig Fawcett.
Sir,
There is the case of a now defunct football team winning a now defunct European trophy and being banned from defending it.
In 1971/2 Rangers FC (now in liquidation) had qualified for the old European Cup Winners Cup as runners up in the 1971 Scottish Cup. Winners Celtic had completed the double and therefore qualified for the European Cup.
After beating Bayern Munich in the ECWC final, held in the Nou Camp, supporters of Rangers invaded the pitch and rioted. John Grieg was later presented with the trophy in a toilet. The club received a one year ban from European competition and was therefore unable to defend the trophy.
Dontbrattbakkinanger 08:56 on 17 April, 2013
Ylurc- you have been missed.
Give my best to Yvick and Ymurph
DBBIA –
Cheers old pal, pressures of work, and life in general and all that nonsense have kept me away for far too long!
Did you forget about Ystarsk and Yhedg? ;-)
Ylurc
Gordon_J –
Well said that mhan!!
Lurcy
Security level increase due to North Korea posturing
In light of the recent events in Korea the French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from “Run” to “Hide.” The only two higher levels in France are “Collaborate” and “Surrender.” The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France’s white flag factory, effectively paralysing the country’s military capability.
The English are also feeling the pinch in relation to recent events in Korea and have therefore raised their security level from “Miffed” to “Peeved.” Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to “Irritated” or even “A Bit Cross.” The English have not been “A Bit Cross” since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out.
Terrorists have been re-categorised from “Tiresome” to “A Bloody Nuisance.” The last time the British issued a “Bloody Nuisance” warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada.
The Scots have raised their threat level from “Bugger Off” to “Let’s get the Bastards.” They don’t have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.
Italy has increased the alert level from “Shout Loudly and Excitedly” to “Elaborate Military Posturing.” Two more levels remain: “Ineffective Combat Operations” and “Change Sides.”
The Germans have increased their alert state from “Disdainful Arrogance” to “Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs.” They also have two higher levels: “Invade a Neighbour” and “Lose.”
Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual; the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels.
The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy.
These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.
Australia, meanwhile, has raised its security level from “No worries” to “She’ll be alright, Mate.” Two more escalation levels remain:
“Crikey! I think we’ll need to cancel the barbie this weekend!” and “The barbie is cancelled.” So far no situation has ever warranted use of the final escalation level.
Gordon J -did the Horribles not beat a Soviet team on their night of shameful Euro fame? Moscow Dynamo?
For the Financial wizards
http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail.html?announcementId=11552960
gordon_j backing neil lennon
11:04 on
17 April, 2013
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You should have said: ….supporters of Chelsea wearing Rangers’ colours invaded & rioted’
Anyone would think you don’t read the MSM!! ;)))
Gordon_J
Bayern???
Dontbrattbakkinanger,
You’re right … Bayern was the semi final. Damn.
Think Phil Mac’s sevco story might be this, from TSFM just now?
http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail.html?announcementId=11552960
Gordon_J,
2 mistakes in a matter of minutes???
The evil wench’s funeral really has set you off kilter has it not???
:-)
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
The Token Tim,
I was putting it down to stupidity but I like your explanation much better …
Does anyone else appreciate the irony of the state paying the funeral costs of the same woman who scrapped Supplementary Benefit, and its Single Payments designed to cover additional expenses incurred by those on benefit such as funeral expenses.
Maybe her gun running, dare I even say “Terrorist”, son might like to make a contribution from all the money he made trading on her name from the Saudis etc.
Nah thought not.
G_J
I picked a great morning to lurk…. o))
KTF
Hi Doc… FAC Demo …. both myself and Big Swee were at the Demo.
Met you very briefly in George Square to contribute to the banner.
Hail Hail ….
setting free the bears
10:50 on
17 April, 2013
Pyramid System- No reason why this cannot be implemented as a stand alone measure with or without all the other league reconstruction measures.
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Indeed, I think that this could be done without SPL consent.
They say that everybody has some good in them, I’m sure that this is true. I just hope the Good Lord can forgive me for not being able to see any good in that woman Thatcher!
Hail! Hail! PMTYH
Gordon_J,
:-)
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
Goldstar10
Celtic – 25000
There will be a few hangers on there according to our attaendances !
The assets of Sevco 5088 Ltd include a claim, which has been independently reviewed by Leading Counsel who is also a Deputy High Court Judge, to all of the business and assets of RFC 2012 Plc which were purchased by Sevco 5088 Limited or Sevco Scotland Ltd from the administrators of RFC 2012 plc in June of 2012. Sevco Scotland Ltd was subsequently renamed The Rangers Football Club Limited and its share capital was acquired by Rangers International Football Club Plc, the shares of which are now traded on AIM. It is the position of Sevco 5088 Ltd that it is the rightful owner of the business and those assets. After examination of the evidence, Leading Counsel’s advice is that there is a prima facie case to answer.
Che
nice one!!
Re Scottish Cup Final Tickets e-mail applications sent out this morning
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One of the delights of the Moscow Dynamo / Rangers game was that the European fitba authorities were worried about the interaction between the fans of a team from Soviet Russia and the polis from a Fascist state.
Tooting Tim,
Is that article the real mccoy? If it is, what are the implications for the deady bears?