Congratulations to Mark Daly and the BBC production team behind The Men who sold the Jerseys, who received the award from the Royal Television Society for Best regions current affairs and news event for their documentary into the goings-on in the years before Rangers descended into liquidation. They won against Grananda’s Hillsborough – The Truth At Last, which centred on a hugely important human and political story, which illustrates the standard of achievement.
Television journalist of the year
Congratulations also to Alex Thomson, of Chanel 4 News, “one of the UK’s leading correspondents. With a portfolio of coverage from Syria to door stepping Kelvin Mackenzie over Hillsborough, to Glasgow Rangers, he displays great range and versatility with a knack for finding strong angles and compelling stories. He brings real authority and storytelling skills to whatever he covers.”
Thomson is a game changer. Never has a UK journalist had so many people wanting him to stop asking questions, including many in his own industry. Fortunately he appears to be some kind of Geordie-hostility-feeder.
Good journalism is important. Well done to the winners and those in their support teams.
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ernie lynch
Hard to believe now but I was born into a Tory constituency in Scotland. They haven’t had a Tory MP in fifty years. How many Tory supporters are there now, well based on my analysis of local, general and more recently, devolved elections, damn few, the rest are aw deid.
Trophybhoy
19:50 on 21 February, 2013
Scotland would have some influence over interest rates.
The SNP intend to hand that power to others.
They call it being ‘independent’.
ernie lynch
19:46 on
21 February, 2013
Celtic Mac
19:13 on 21 February, 2013
The polls are currently predicting a Labour majority of 112.
Agreed?
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Did Neil Kinnock not have favourable polls as well Ernie?
Celtic Mac
19:52 on 21 February, 2013
So when Salmond said ‘we didn’t mind the economic side so much’ about Thatcherism who was he referring to?
I reckon it was people who in an ‘independent’ Scotland would vote Tory.
Who do you think it was?
Maestro
I hope this helps, from Hootsman:
“CELTIC look certain to wrap up the SPL title before the split, despite their slip-up at St Johnstone on Tuesday.
Neil Lennon’s side are now 19 points clear at the top of the league, although second-placed Motherwell have one game in hand.
And even if Motherwell do win that extra game, and Celtic match them for points, they can wrap it up with a home game against Hibs on 6 April – the last game before the SPL split – because they would be 16 points ahead with only 15 left to play for.
However, if Celtic keep winning and Stuart McCall’s side do drop points – especially with the two sides due to meet later this month at Fir Park – the championship could even be clinched next month.
Celtic are away to St Mirren the previous week at the end of March and could win the league in Paisley as long as they remain at least 19 points clear at that stage.
But if Motherwell and Caley Thistle drop just four points in their next five games and Celtic win their next four, they would clinch the title as early as 16 March at home against struggling Aberdeen.”
ernie lynch
Let us count the actual Labour vote in Eastleigh next week and see how that would project itself in 2015. Labour needs to capture lost ground in the South, not necessarily Eastleigh itself, third place likely, but to win back power.
theweegreenman
19:53 on 21 February, 2013
So you agree that the polls are predicting a Labour majority of 112 but you think the Tories will win.
The referendum will in all probability be held a background expecting a Labour victory at a General election.
So the nats tactic of urging people to vote yes to avoid a Tory government will be ineffective.
Salmond’s decision to delay the referendum was a major error.
theweegreenman I think you mean £5 trillion in current money :)
The question I ask myself re: independence is simple
The UK had the extraordinary good fortune that Germany, France, Italy and Spain didn’t have and yet our debt is comparable with Italy and Spain and worse than France and much worse than Germany.
£2 trillion additional money that neither Spain, Italy, France and Germany didn’t have, and what has it been spent on?
THE PROPERTY MARKET IN THE SOUTH EAST.
There’s a great passage about resource waste in 1984 which pretty well sums up the way the UK economy has been run over the past 41 years.
“To understand the nature of the present war — for in spite of the regrouping which occurs every few years, it is always the same war — one must realize in the first place that it is impossible for it to be decisive. None of the three super-states could be definitively conquered even by the other two in combination. They are too evenly matched, and their natural defences are too formidable. Eurasia is protected by its vast land spaces. Oceania by the width of the Atlantic and the Pacific, Eastasia by the fecundity and industriousness of its inhabitants. Secondly, there is no longer, in a material sense, anything to fight about. With the establishment of self-contained economies, in which production and consumption are geared to one another, the scramble for markets which was a main cause of previous wars has come to an end, while the competition for raw materials is no longer a matter of life and death. In any case each of the three super-states is so vast that it can obtain almost all the materials that it needs within its own boundaries. In so far as the war has a direct economic purpose, it is a war for labour power. Between the frontiers of the super-states, and not permanently in the possession of any of them, there lies a rough quadrilateral with its corners at Tangier, Brazzaville, Darwin, and Hong Kong, containing within it about a fifth of the population of the earth. It is for the possession of these thickly-populated regions, and of the northern ice-cap, that the three powers are constantly struggling. In practice no one power ever controls the whole of the disputed area. Portions of it are constantly changing hands, and it is the chance of seizing this or that fragment by a sudden stroke of treachery that dictates the endless changes of alignment.
All of the disputed territories contain valuable minerals, and some of them yield important vegetable products such as rubber which in colder climates it is necessary to synthesize by comparatively expensive methods. But above all they contain a bottomless reserve of cheap labour. Whichever power controls equatorial Africa, or the countries of the Middle East, or Southern India, or the Indonesian Archipelago, disposes also of the bodies of scores or hundreds of millions of ill-paid and hard-working coolies. The inhabitants of these areas, reduced more or less openly to the status of slaves, pass continually from conqueror to conqueror, and are expended like so much coal or oil in the race to turn out more armaments, to capture more territory, to control more labour power, to turn out more armaments, to capture more territory, and so on indefinitely. It should be noted that the fighting never really moves beyond the edges of the disputed areas. The frontiers of Eurasia flow back and forth between the basin of the Congo and the northern shore of the Mediterranean; the islands of the Indian Ocean and the Pacific are constantly being captured and recaptured by Oceania or by Eastasia; in Mongolia the dividing line between Eurasia and Eastasia is never stable; round the Pole all three powers lay claim to enormous territories which in fact are largely unihabited and unexplored: but the balance of power always remains roughly even, and the territory which forms the heartland of each super-state always remains inviolate. Moreover, the labour of the exploited peoples round the Equator is not really necessary to the world’s economy. They add nothing to the wealth of the world, since whatever they produce is used for purposes of war, and the object of waging a war is always to be in a better position in which to wage another war. By their labour the slave populations allow the tempo of continuous warfare to be speeded up. But if they did not exist, the structure of world society, and the process by which it maintains itself, would not be essentially different.”
That is why I’ll be voting for independence. The UK has wasted far too much money in the pursuit of power and influence, money which could have been much better spent creating an economy to rival Germany, Japan and Australia.
Ernie Lynch
Yes your second post was factually correct. I did post an article this morning which has led to your usual aggressive attacks on Scottish Nationalists.
Shame your anger clouded your judgement on your previous post. It seems to me that you are sitting desperately waiting to attack anyone who dares even countenance a possible better future within Independence or anyone even mildly supportive of it.
I hope more people can see beyond this and see that to accept a situation where your future is determined by 14 million people in the South east voting for 139 MPs against the 5 million voting for 59. You’re never going to get a damn thing unless the English decide they want the Labour party and that doesn’t happen at every election. That’s not propaganda Ernie, that is reality and there is hardly another group of people in the world or certainly in Europe who would tolerate such a state of affairs yet Scots egged on by fear-mongering Unionists fall for it time and time again.
I need to check the stats but someone told me in 14 of the last 17 elections Scotland has voted differently from the government that ended up in Westminster. If that is true then it is appalling and yet people still say don’t change it. A nonsense. If you tolerate this then your children will be next – never a truer word sang.
My own children God willing will never be subjected to this, they’ll either be full Scots in an Independent state or half Scottish/half Slovak. I won’t return to the UK, only a Scotland free from its shackles.
I am glad however that you use polling to talk about Labour winning the next election 3 years away while confidently predicting a No vote when there’s around 60% of people in Scotland who want a change of some sort (though not necessarily full Independence) and many have not committed to Yes or No as yet.
What are the lotto numbers going to be?
I could do with a few quid (I mean euros) this weekend.
labour,tories libs, orange order the ole rule brittania /sevco mob
all against independance.
says it all for me
a definite yes
ernie lynch
Alex Salmond is as deluded as Gordon Brown when it comes to an understanding of what Thatcher’s economic policies did for Scotland. Only Scottish Water escaped, and I do not trust the SNP to retain even that under mutual ownership. I will give you a piece of advice though, do not expect me to speak up for or defend the SNP, it will save you some time.
ernie lynch
I think you are under estimating the Lib Dems and Tories Ernie. They have still to play their sweetners at the election
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As Celtic Mac says, let’s wait and see how they get on at Eastleigh. If it looks like the Tories are going to win in the South again, would you still vote Labour?
ernie lynch
19:52 on
21 February, 2013
Trophybhoy
19:50 on 21 February, 2013
Scotland would have some influence over interest rates.
The SNP intend to hand that power to others.
They call it being ‘independent’.
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with all due respect is that it ernie, is that all there is. who sets scotlands interest rates just now, westminster i assume. now i am sure i have heard you say you are socialist, so with hand on heart do you honestly think that the social policies i listed earlier are a bad idea.
once again ernie can i confirm that you understand that wanting independence is not necessarily a guarentee that you are an snp voter. Can i also confirm that you are aware that the greens the SSP and a growing and considerable amount of scottish labour members are pro independence.
Don’t forget the Ukip effect at the By-election playing on the rabid xenophobia that is emerging in England regarding the wicked EU who are out to allow Johnny Foreigners to run amok while British workers like me can freely work in EU countries just the same way.
I’d rather have Salmond over a Farage any day of the week.
pggtips2
19:59 on
21 February, 2013
theweegreenman I think you mean £5 trillion in current money :)
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£5 trillion in old money? Now what could WE do with that????
I know, let’s all send it to Washington, no, no wait, Paris, no no London, no we did that the last time with the oil money and look what they done with it……
Why don’t we keep OUR own money in our OWN country.
FFS, We are getting a second bite at the cherry……
Condolences to channelislandcelt on his mother’s passing.
Evening all
Just picked up on the political debate. Yes to independence for Scotland despite not because of the SNP or even his monstrously stupid bill brought about after the Shame Game. Just because
Not clever enough to add more but seems like an emotional choice that people face not any of the crud these nits ( the politicians not CQN!) have come up with
Jimbo
theweegreenman,
My position is that in politics when you have one side saying black and the other saying white I know that the real answer is grey. But nether side will admit that.
An independent Scotland would not be a utopia, but it would not be a disaster either.
I believe Scotland to be a country with a wealth of natural resources.
We are a fairly unique nation historically and there are a lot of divides. But on the other hand there are a lot of unifying factors and traits as well.
There is a shocking level of ignorance nationally of our historical past.
I blame that on – and I really believe this – a deliberate policy of the British government to keep it that way.
If you don’t know your past you can’t judge your future.
And when I say BRITISH government I chose that word carefully.
But that goes for the rest of the UK as well.
Whether it’s worth going independent now is a difficult question.
We are not the same country we were – I don’t think it’s possible to predict how things would go looking into the future now as we are.
So I’m wary of both sides of the argument.
Very suspicious about Sevco part settling the Rapid Vienna debt, do I sense some kind of deal in lieu of a favourable judgement from Lord Nimmo Smith?
Hope I’m wrong but the cheats are very good at worming outa things
Liverpool OOT
Ernie,
How many trident submarines can I get for £5 trillion? :-)
Really need to talk to my brother, ‘larrybhoy’, who occasionally posts on here and is a serial lurker.
Cannae reach him at home phone.
Saw one of the consultants today.
Feelin’ a wee bit blown away.
Reality bites. And I don’t feel that old at 61.
Life, eh?
Zenit lookin’ way too savvy for Liverpool.
Shame.
miki67
You o.k. mate?
good evening cqn
Was in car earlier tonight and listening to ssb (i know,iknow)heard Chuckles is paying of everybody and his granny,
Has he found money under a floorboard,or robbed one of David Murrays old banks,
But in all seriousness where is he getting the cash,when they are supposed to be Skint ?
Miki67, hope you’re okay mate, and you’re brother is lurking and gets in touch.
whitecrook tim
PayDay loan?
miki 67.keep your head up and talk to someone.get in your car and go visit one of your family or friends.keep the faith.
Miki67
We are always here for you.
HH
miki67,
I know this is cyberspace, but I AM genuinely concerned.
The SNP will stay in the driving seat a lot longer if the Union remains intact. I’d put money on it. I’m still not 100 percent convinced they really want independence. It was much easier having it as the central policy when it didn’t seem possible.
Good evening friends.
sorry to steer the conversation back to football but I heard today from a source I rely on (I know, I know, but honestly…) that Celtic will be visiting Australia for a few games in late June just prior to the Champions League qualifiers. I trust that this is the right move but would feel less nervous if our preseason was a lot nearer home.
Tempted to now say ‘off oot’ but I won’t.
Jobo
ChannelIslandCelt
*I lost my mother 11+ years ago and there isnae a day that I don’t think of her and all the horse manure that she had to put up with a nutty teenage son. She is buried in the Vale of Leven Cemetary just a few graves down from her big brother, Googybhoys da.
Try to remember your mum as she was to you, I do.
RIP
Liverpool equalise after dreadful defending by Zenit at a free kick.
Phil mac has a good piece on Tomo’s win…………….worth a look.
Channelislandcelt
Very sorry to hear your awful news.
Miki67
get yourself amongst friends or family.
HH
Miki67
Hope it’s not so bad bro. As Alasdair said I’m worried.
Jimbo