‘They’ want to get rid of him. Not all of them, by any measure, I’ve seen Neil Lennon welcomed as an old friend by some whose allegiances lie a long way from Celtic Park, but to some he represents an opportunity to indulge in the kind of prejudice which was once widely accepted in Scotland.
In this instance I’m not talking about the idiot football fans, there are lots of idiot football fans, just waiting for an opportunity to present their credentials. You can meet them wearing any colours. The people who showed their true colours today were in charge of stewarding guests at Tynecastle – and Neil Lennon was a guest.
It’s a horrible place. The day the flats are built cannot come soon enough. I expect a robust response from Aberdeen, as well as life bans. I expect nothing from Hearts.
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John O’Neil
13:13 on 2 February, 2014
‘Ernie, is there any country which is free from prejudice?’
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I don’t know.
I do know that Scotland has a particular type of prejudice.
I’m sensitive to it because the community I come from is affected by the prejudice.
Maybe if I was from a different background I wouldn’t be aware of the prejudice or might chose to ignore it, particularly if I though those who mentioned it were somehow denigrating me or my culture.
John O’Neil
13:03 on 2 February, 2014
Big Nan, McCormack’s party existed in an age long ago. I suggest that Catholics face problems from a different source now.
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Thanks for telling me I am of a different age.
So the sons and grandsons of those indoctrinated with anti-Irish/RC propaganda are born with no biases that are present today you reckon?
Mmmm
16 roads:
“such is life” Ned Kelly his boast to the grave.
And such is life indeed.
I have a few boasts in life myself…
I never, ever watched Dallas, or Eastenders, or Coronation St, or any of them… none of them, EVER.
I’ve never ever said a word on here that I would not say to another posters face that I addressed.
I’m from Glasgow. Never in my life of wandering have I ever come across a city I’d rather be – by myself – than Glasgow.
I’m a Celtic Supporter. A simple one, but hopefully as committed as the man on my shoulder, both left and right.
You don’t know Ernie? Well that is a first. Let me suggest to you that all countries have prejudice. It would be a little odd, if not a form of prejudice itself, were we to only attribute prejudice to the Scottish people. Given that you are from an Irish Catholic community, I look forward to your highlighting the daily bigotry which one can find on various newspaper websites.
Was there any anti-Catholic sectarianism in Scotland prior to the arrival of Irish immigrants?
Whit’s goin oan here?
Sir Paul… Get the Polis!
There’ll Be a Murder Here..if this Keeps Up!
Gentlemen.. Behave yersels!
Ye are invited guests oan here..
Noo..
Everybuddy,Shake Hauns.. n let’s
Talk aboot the CELTIC!( What an Excellent Suggestion… ed)
Kojo
John O’Neil
You are confused mate. Our enemies are the same, just different faces.
John O’Neil
13:21 on 2 February, 2014
Deny, distract, obfuscate.
It’s almost like there’s something you’d rather we didn’t deal with.
I wonder why?
Big Nan, I was going to write ‘with respect’ but nobody takes those words seriously anymore. I think there is some residual bias but it is dying away. Most people pity Orangemen and other bigots. The more worrying bigotry emanates from the intellectual circles.
Your post about the young Coatbridge girl was very moving.
John O’Neil:
I worked Bomb Disposal….
Heading off through to game hoping we don’t see a surprise result – even Barca lost at home yesterday after a long winning run!
Can’t watch much more of this ICT v Hertz drivel anyway. The sheep will pump either of these two teams in the final. Right on cue, ICT score a raker (genius ??? according to BBC)!
I’ll stick to football if that’s ok. Off oot.
Ernie, given that you don’t know that a form of bigotry exists in every country known to man, I think we can safely deduce that you haven’t left your house much.
waiting on my lift into game.
Just a quick thank you to winning captains & yon Fhella Lennybhoy :)))
For being helpful Bhoys.
I would imagine Stokes for Ledley will be the only change today.
Would like to see Johansen, Balde start but won’t happen
==============Forster===============
Fisher=====Ambrose===VVD========Izzy
Forrest===Brown===Mulgrew====Commons
=========Pukki=====Stokes===========
Subs – Zalusaka, Balde, Samaras, Johansen, Boerrigter, Biton, O’Connell
3-1 Celtic with Stokes to score at least once now that he has competition sitting in the stand.
By the way ICT have just scored an absolute corker.
Jimbo67 supporting Oscar Knox
Kayal33 Cant Griffiths play today ? H.H.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oQkoKsli3H8
Joe Filippis Haircut
13:29 on 2 February, 2014
Kayal33 Cant Griffiths play today ? H.H
No, didn’t sign before 5pm deadline on Friday.
Kayal 33 Thanks for that. H.H.
Right off to Paradise :))
16 roads – Wee Oscar the Celtic warrior, Kitalba and awwww the rest of yous may only good things come your way.
Tom I have not read back may you be granted the strength you need at this time.
Y.N.W.A
BIG-CUP-WINNERS
13:24 on
2 February, 2014
John O’Neil
You are confused mate. Our enemies are the same, just different faces.
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Is Sammy from Harthill the same as Stephen Fry et al? Does Sammy have a national platform which tolerates jokes about Catholic priests?
John O’Neil
13:26 on 2 February, 2014
Unlike you I haven’t visited every country in the world and don’t have enough knowledge about them to speak with any authority.
Or maybe you just didn’t express yourself particularly clearly in your original question.
To the vexing matter of Lenny yesterday at Tynecastle.
There’s been a lot said and written, some in anger, some in ignorance, some insightful, some disingenuous.
I was particularly upset with last night’s Sportsound Extra, with Graham Spiers using a public platform to express the view that Neil Lennon attracts this sort of behaviour.
I was minded of the long held, now widely discredited axiom that a given woman subjected to sexual assault brought it on herself on account of her clothing and make up. What did she expect after all? Indeed, the Jezebel association, the ‘painted woman’ metaphor is perhaps still quite at home in the legacy of Scotland’s centuries old struggle with itself.
Neil Lennon was not abused yesterday because he is Catholic.
Neither was he abused because he is Irish.
Or indeed, that he’s a ginger.
He is all of these things of course.
Neil Lennon was abused yesterday because a number of hooligans, thugs and reprobates thought it was acceptable to behave in that way.
In attempting to provide a reason for the behaviour, Spiers serves to condone or mitigate it. Perhaps he doesn’t realise.
Relatedly: I have a lot of fondness for Aberdeen, from John Hewitt’s silent scream in Gothenburg, to my son’s 4 years spent at the club and much besides.
However, I had cause to criticise their support following the most recent game at Celtic Park, and again yesterday. The supporters will have to decide whether their mission is to take Rangers’ place in Scottish football, or become them. I’m sure Orwell had an apt allegory of sheep becoming farmers…
John O’Neil
13:34 on 2 February, 2014
How many Celtic fans have Stephen Fry and his chums murdered for no other reason than a perceived football allegiance?
I am sure good old Sandy Bryson can sort it out for Lee to play today, the nice chap that he is!
John O’Neil
Yes the Scottish Media or is that not national enough ?
Ernie, have a wee think and you can suggest some places where bigotry does not exist within humans. One suspects that you will be thinking for a long time. If you do discover a utopia where some form of prejudice does not exist, let us know. You could even move there if Scotland votes yes.
Kojo,
The voice of reason, and I can appreciate your sentiments.
.Unfortunately the political debate in these islands is encapsulating all things Football. There is no escape from politics and football intertwining.This will only increase in the run up to the referendum.
However you live 6000 miles away
Ernie, thankfully his friends aren’t in power. Give them that power and history shows that they start to have fun killing priests and others with faith. Sammy from Armadale isn’t going to influence public opinion.
John O’Neil
13:38 on 2 February, 2014
Scotland has its own, endogenous bigotry.
It directly affects me.
I’m concerned about it.
I will not vote for something that will make it worse by giving the bigots a louder voice.
Kojo,
Apologies for incomplete post. I was finishing by saying as you live 6000 miles away it is difficult to gauge these uncharted times in Scotland.
Sad as it is we are all being sucked in.
Thanks and HH to you.
John O’Neil
What is the weapon of choice for Stephen Fry and that of Sammy and his ilk ?
TBB
Neil Lennon was not abused yesterday because he is Catholic.
Neither was he abused because he is Irish.
Or indeed, that he’s a ginger.
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That being the case, if it had been any other football manager, would the same thing have happened?
John O’Neil
13:41 on 2 February, 2014
Are you drunk?
screamer of a free kick from hamill for hearts.. you wont hear this often but come on the boys in blue (ICT) against the cousins of them fae govan.
Ah dinna know the Team Selection Du Jour.
Howevahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
If Ah wiz King:
Pukki, wid be in Ma Team.
Pukki, hiz found hiz “Sweet Mystery of Life”.. It wiz there awe the Time..
Bur, He Fun it.. Edinburgh, Last week.
He hiz!
From noo oan.. It’s Pukki, the Darlin’ Bhoy!
Kojo
Still,Laughin’
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Lefty – I hope you enjoy your day at Paradise chief.
Not a jealous person, but I wish was going to Celtic Park today.
Have a goodun legend.
finger to lips to shoosh – bookable offence – only if your stokes and not hamill ( twice in one game )