This season, Gary Hooper has looked well below form of last term; his touch, movement and goals record don’t match up, but he came off the bench on Thursday to score a truly excellent goal. Controlling a difficult ball in the centre circle, with defenders in close attendance, he picked out Giorgios Samaras before sprinting past his markers and finishing.
The winner against Motherwell was less spectacular but required sharp movement and spatial awareness.
Footballers cannot always play through bad form, sometimes they need a break, even for an hour on the bench, to get a different perspective on how they and the team play.
Despite his return to form I would retain the same 4-2-3-1 formation against Inverness next time out.
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Good Evening,
I warn you now that this may under certain circumstances be a dry read! However I also believe that it will be illuminating for those who choose to persevere, and I promise to do my very best not to make it too formal and technical.
Consider if you will, a selected extract from the rules of the SPL. Not the SFA you understand but the SPL– and remember that the SPL rules are subject to those of the SFA who in tuen must bow to EUFA.
It is the SFA who dish out Licences and obviously you need a licence to gain entry to the SPL. However as will be seen below, you can have a licence and still be expelled from the SPL on whatever grounds the SPL think are appropriate.
So to the rules. They Govern the relationship in the league, between clubs, between club and players and so on. They also cover financial probity, players contracts, and in general seek to determine and ensure fairness between the clubs. Just have a read and take in the measure of what these rules are trying to achieve and at the end of each one ask ” Ok- what are the writers of this rule trying to ensure or enable?”
Here they are!
A3.1 In all matters and transactions relating to the League and Company each Club shall behave towards each other Club and the Company with the utmost good faith.– NOTE GOOD FAITH!!!
A6.8 Where a Club takes, suffers or is subject to an Insolvency Event that Club shall be deducted 10 points. Where the Insolvency Event occurs during the Season, the points deduction shall apply immediately. Where the Insolvency Event occurs during the Close Season the points deduction shall apply in respect of the immediately following Season, such that the Club starts that immediately following Season on minus 10points.
A6.9 Where an Insolvency Event or in the event that such Insolvency Event is part of an Insolvency Process that process, continues and/or is subsisting for more than one Season then, for each
such Season, during the whole or part of which such Insolvency Event or Insolvency Process is continuing and/or subsisting, the Club concerned shall be deducted 10 points or, as the case may be, shall start each such Season on minus 10 points.
C12.3 Subject to the provisions of Article 37 of the Articles of Association, the Company in General Meeting may from time to time, and upon such terms and conditions as it may think fit, expel or accept the retirement or resignation of any Club from the League.— NOTE THIS GIVES THE POWER TO EXPEL AND SEEMS A CARTE BLANCH POWER SUBJEST TO ARTICLE 37
D1.2 An application for a Player to be Registered or to change Status must be made, in the case of Professional Registration, by submitting to the Secretary a fully completed and executed Contract of Service for the Player concerned and, in the case of Amateur Registration or change of Status, by submitting to the Secretary a fully completed written application in the form specified from time to time by the Board and must, in all cases, if issued to the Player concerned, be accompanied by a copy of the Player’s Player Passport. In the case of Amateur Registration or change of Status the form used must be fully completed with all required details and signed by the Player and Club concerned prior to submission to the Secretary. The Board may determine in the case of Amateur Registration to accept as an application for Amateur Registration a fully completed copy of the form or forms then in use by the SFA for the registration of amateur players submitted to the SFA.
D1.13 A Club must, as a condition of Registration and for a Player to be eligible to Play in Official Matches, deliver the executed originals of all Contracts of Service and amendments and/or extensions to Contracts of Service and all other agreements providing for payment, other than for reimbursement of expenses actually incurred, between that Club and Player, to the Secretary, within fourteen days of such Contract of Service or other agreement being entered into, amended and/or, as the case may be, extended
NB— NOTE THAT THIS PROVISION STATES THAT IT IS A CONDITION PRECEDENT OF A PLAYER BEING ELIGIBLE FOR ANY MATCH THAT THE CLUB DELIVERS ALL CONTRACTS OF SERVICE AND EVERY OTHER DOCUMENT RELATING TO PAYMENTS ETC– FAILURE TO COMPLY SUGGESTS THAT THE PLAYER REMAINS INELIGIBLE AND IS THEREFORE UNLAWFUL– ALSO REMEMBER THE WORDS FC SION!
Contracts of Service
D9.1 All Contracts of Service between Clubs and Professional Players must be for a term of:-
D9.1.1 not less than the period until the next first day of a Registration Period; and
D9.1.2 not more than five years and the unexpired portion, if any, of any Season during which such contract was entered into.
D9.2 All Contracts of Service between Clubs and Players must be in writing, fully completed and in a form approved, from time to time, by the Board.
NOTE THAT THE FORM OF CONTRACT MUST BE APPROVED BY THE LEAGUE
D9.3 No Player may receive any payment of any description from or on behalf of a Club in respect of that Player’s participation in Association Football or in an activity connected with Association Football, other than in reimbursement of expenses actually incurred or to be actually incurred in playing or training for that Club, unless such payment is made in accordance with a Contract of Service between that Club and the Player concerned..
NOTE THE TERMS OF THIS CLAUSE AND WHAT IT SEEKS TO ACHIEVE
D15.2 If there is any conflict or inconsistency between any provisions of these Rules and any Player’s Contract of Service in relation to any matter concerning a Club and one or more of its Players, the provisions of these Rules shall prevail and apply to such matter.
F1 Every Club shall keep detailed financial records and the Company shall be entitled to inspect such records and to require Clubs to provide copies of any financial or other records which the Company may reasonably require in order to enable the Company to investigate whether the Club has complied and is complying with these Rules, the Articles of Association, the SFA Articles, the UEFA Statutes and the FIFA Statutes and to ensure compliance by the Club with the same.
NOTE THE POWERS OF THE LEAGUE TO REQUIRE DOCUMENTATION AND THE REASON GIVEN FOR BEING ABLE TO DEMAND THAT DOCUMENTATION
G1.1 The Board and, where appointed by the Board, a Commission, shall have the power of inquiry into all financial, contractual and other arrangements within, between and/or amongst Clubs and Players and all matters concerning compliance with the Financial Disclosure Requirements and into all matters constituting or pertaining to any suspected or alleged breach of or failure to fulfill the Rules by any Club, Club Official and/or Player or any matter considered by the Board or, where appointed by the Board, a Commission, to be relevant to an Adjudication or an Appeal and every Club and Club Official and Player shall be liable to and shall afford every assistance to the Board or, as the case may be Commission, as may be requested or required of it or him.
NOTE THE OBLIGATION ON THE CLUB– OF COURSE ONE WAY AROUND ANYTHING SUSPICIOUS WOULD BE FOR THE CLUB JUST TO CEASE TO BE– BUT NOTE THE OBLIGATION IS ON THE CLUB– NOT ON A SUPPOSED COMPANY!
G1.2 The Board and, where appointed by the Board, a Commission, shall have the power of determination as to whether there has been a breach of or failure to fulfill the Rules and in Adjudications and Appeals.
G1.3 The Board and, where appointed by the Board, a Commission, may require the attendance of any Club Official, Player and/or other person at any meeting of the Board or a Commission and/or the production to the Board or a Commission of any books, letters and other documents or records whatsoever and howsoever kept relating to or concerning any matter in relation to which the Board, and where appointed by the Board, a Commission, have the power of enquiry or determination in terms of Rules G1.1 and G1.2 respectively.
HERE ARE THE INCESTIGATIVE POWERS
G6.1 Upon determining that a breach of or failure to fulfil the Rules has been established, the Board or, as the case may be, a Commission may:-
G6.1.1 give a warning as to future conduct;
G6.1.2 give a reprimand;
G6.1.3 impose a fine;
G6.1.4 annul the result of an Official Match;
G6.1.5 order that an Official Match be replayed;
G6.1.6 impose a deduction of points;
G6.1.7 award an Official Match (with such deemed score as it thinks appropriate) to a Club;
G6.1.8 order the playing of an Official Match or Matches behind closed doors;
G6.1.9 order the closure of all or part of a Stadium for such period and for such purposes as it thinks appropriate;
G6.1.10 order the playing of an Official Match or Matches at such Stadium as it thinks appropriate;
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G6.1.11 subject to Rule G6.3, order that a Club be expelled from the League;
G6.1.12 withdraw or withhold the award of a title or award;
G6.1.13 order any Club, Club Official or Player to pay compensation to any Club, Player, person or party;
G6.1.14 order any Club, Club Official or Player to comply with any obligation or direction;
G6.1.15 cancel or refuse the Registration of any Player Registered or attempted to be Registered;
G6.1.16 order that a Club concerned be debarred from Registering Players for such period as it thinks appropriate;
G6.1.17 order that any person, persons or group of persons be prohibited from attending at such Official Match or Matches and for such period as it thinks appropriate;
G6.1.18 make such other direction, sanction or disposal, not expressly provided for in these Rules, as it shall think appropriate; and/or
G6.1.19 make such order as to expenses, including the expenses of the Board and/or, as the case may be, Commission and/or other party, as it thinks appropriate.
G6.2 When imposing a direction, sanction or disposal the Board or, as the case may be a Commission, may apply such number and combination of the directions, sanctions and/or disposals provide for in Rule G.1 as it thinks appropriate, may make such provision for time to comply with any one or more of same as it thinks appropriate, may defer for such period or until such event as it shall think appropriate the decision on or imposition of a sanction or sanctions and shall be entitled to suspend the effect of any such direction, sanction or disposal for such period and/or on such conditions as it thinks appropriate.
G6.3 The expulsion of a Club from the League shall not take effect unless and until it is sanctioned by a resolution passed at a General Meeting of the Company in accordance with the requisite majority specified in the Articles of Association.
G6.4 In the case of an Adjudication or an Appeal, the Board or, as the case may be, a Commission, may exercise any of the powers in Rules G6.1.13, G6.1.14, G6.1.18 and/or G6.1.19 as it shall think appropriate in order to deal justly with the matter before it for determination.
THIS IS THE RANGE OF PENALTIES
A2.5.7 Clubs and the Candidate Club shall from and including 1 January 2010 comply with the Financial Disclosure Requirements
Contract of Service means a contract of service for a Player in the standard form of the League and/or SFL and references to any particular type of Contract of Service shall be construed accordingly;
Insolvency Event means, in respect of a Club, where:-
a. a manager, judicial factor, receiver or administrative receiver shall be appointed in respect of all or any part of its undertaking or assets;
b. an administration order shall be made;
c. a winding-up order shall be made;
d. a resolution for winding up of the Club shall be passed;
e. the Club shall enter into any arrangement with its creditors or some part of them, in respect of the payment of its debts or part of them, as a Company Voluntary Arrangement under the Insolvency Act 1986 or a Scheme of Arrangement under the Companies Act 1985 or any substituting amending or replacement legislation or any other arrangement or the like having the same or similar effect;
f. a provisional liquidator shall be appointed; or
g. any proceeding or step is taken or any Court order in any jurisdiction made which has the same or substantially similar effect to any of the foregoing;
Insolvency Process means a process or procedure comprising two or more Insolvency Events which occur either concurrently or consecutively;
OK– let’s stop there for the moment. There is a whole further schedule on financial compliance but we will leave that for another day. Now I stress again that these are the SPL rules and not the rules of the SFA. Further, they are the SPL rules as at April 2011.
There is a plethora of opinion on all fronts about Rangers solvency. Are they skint? Will there be an insolvency event? If so which one? Administration means ten point deduction and so on.
On another occasion we can look at the SPL and how they were supposed to monitor Rangers PLC financially. How in the past 15 years– excluding the tax now claimed— the official Rangers PLC accounts show an accumulated loss of £155million pounds going by the information commonly repeated elsewhere. How can a body allow that kind of repeated loss without comment?
Anyway I digress.
From the above rules I want you to imagine the following scenario which I am told is likely to be the truth.
The SPL awards money– hard cash and other financial benefits the further up the league you finish.
When participating in that league you sre bound to comply with rules such as those above.
Breaches of these rules are punishable as can be seen.
Rangers, through its then Directors, repeatedly and delibverately did not enter into contracts with players that did not comply with the league rules.
Rangers, acting through its Directors, repeatedly and deliberately entered into contracts with players which did not conform to the standard league contracts as provided for in the rules.
Rangers, acting through its Directors, deliberately sought to conceal the non standard parts of players contracts from the league authority in breach of the league rules.
Rangers, acting through both its former and indeed current Directors, have at no time chosen to disclose those non standard parts of players contracts at any time to date.
In entering into these non standard contracts, Rangers at all times sought to gain a financial advantage over every other team in the league by avoiding taxes legally due on “undeclared players wages!”
In this way, Rangers were able to secure the services of footballers that they otherwise could clearly not afford, and the employment of whom on standard contracts alone would have increased year on year losses thus expediting what is now considered an unavoidable insolvency event.
Rangers further benefitted by gaining entry to lucrative European football at the expense of other teams in the league and so gained further financial advantage.
By deliberately concealing irregular payment methods to players or at the very least irregular financial arrangements with players, Rangers have repeatedly broken league rules and have thus far gone unpunished.
By deliberately concealing these irregular and non conformist and non standard financial arrangements with players, Rangers have rendered the registration of those players as null and void with the result that they have over a number of years repeatedly fielded inelligeable players. It therefore follows that all results where inelligeable players were fielded are null and void and should be replaced with 3-0 results in favour of the opposition.
Rangers Football Club continued to make non conformist EBT payments right up until their most recent financial results. In the year ended 2010 they paid £1.358M pounds in this fashion. For the year ended 2011 this sum had dropped to £150,000 but was clearly still being paid.
Rangers football club were required to disclose all financial information to the league including accounts for each financial year. Apparently those accounts showed EBT payments as being made quite separately to payments under contract. What if any enquiry was made by the league of Rangers PLC as to the nature of these contracts and the payments made thereunder?
Rangers have repeatedly breached the rules of the league. Within the rules of the league there is provisonj for a wide range of punishment for non compliance including the provision for compensation, for expulsion and so on.
At the time of writing, the non conformist payments are the subject of formal legal proceedings and there are reasonable grounds for believing that the said paymenst shall be deemed to be not only a breach of the club rules but contrary to the Law of Scotland– in essence the payments were illegal.
Further, should it become apparent that it was represented– to any official body ( football or otherwise ) that the payments to any registered players were bona fide loans, when in fact the entire scheme was an unlawful one involving no such bona fide loans but solely designed to avoid or even defraud HMRC of lawfully due taxes on registered players contracts– then it may well be that the actions of those running Rangers Football Club in choosing to conceal the detail and the true nature of these payments amount to a breach of the laws of Scotland in both civil and criminal terms.
As I understand it Rangers PLC may well have issued certain players with side letters covering the EBT payments and that these have not been disclosed but are in fact in the possession of HMRC and have been produced at the tribunal. This is something that has been commented upon elsewhere.
Again I stress that these are the rules of the SPL and NOT the SFA. The SFA rules may well be more stringent in certain regards.
So– I end with a question.
Does anyone really think that all of this ends with an insolvency event and a wee ten point deduction?
Thoughts????
Face Facts,Guys
Phil jist wanted tae Pull Ye Chain..
Move along there… nothing else tae See.
Kojo
EDB
Agree, Henrik was always nearly offside (through blue specs) ;-)
thomthethim
The skinny now highly fashionable tie and lovely letter all made it, – will mail you properly, directly.
Eyes Wide Open says:
8 November, 2011 at 21:49
thats not a serious question, surely.
iki says:
8 November, 2011 at 21:19
hen1rik says:
Ceaser67 says:
“Hooper was offside. In the old days that is!!! lol”
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If Hooper had been offside I am sure that Richmond would have spotted it ….. after all, he had a great game and is so highly thought of by his association that he was given the match of the day.
LoL LoL LoL
what i took from phil macs statement today was that celtic might not vote for the parachute of filthy fc but wont make a big fuss if the rest decide to allow this to happen, now is there anyone on here who seriously thinks that soundings of other club leaders has not been taken in private? our custodians will want to makesure they are not seen to be complicit in any backroom deal,but if people on
here think its not possible for our head custodian to let this happen, without a serious fight, i would urge caution after all its not personal its just business, dermot is a business man and he will do what suits his investment, remember morals and fairness dont count when it comes to finance, do bankers bonuses after the disaster they caused ring a bell for anyone, morals and decency are irrelevant in these circles.
My Dad took me to Parkhead in 1949 and Celtic,it’s history and it’s support has been a big slice of my life ever since.
That same man, born and bred in a rapacious Bridgeton,was promised at his funeral that the Celtic Story was safe in the next generation.He knew what Rangers and their supporters were all about and whilst Scotland has moved on I have no doubt that there are seriously entrenched anti Celtic,anti Irish,anti Catholic elements still abroad in Scotland.
I live outside Scotland but attended the League Cup Final this year so experienced first hand how the Rangers support viewed One Scotland Many Cultures.After that match,whilst trying to visit my ill 90 year old Mum ( and Celtic season ticket holder till her death in August this year ) who lived beside Hampden my brother ( Gordon of this patch )and I were stopped in the street by Strathclyde Police whilst foul mouthed bigoted oafs passed unhindered,whilst we were made to wait in the street in the rain.As anger and frustration mounted I challenged the Inspector overseeing the street blocking to use some common sense.An anxious and ill 90 year-old woman was expecting her sons to call and they were being stopped quite literally about 200-300 yards from her front door.The Inspector ‘s riposte was that he was just doing his job to which we added that he ought to have been doing that earlier when up to 20,000 people were breaking the law and using,quite publicly,abusive and sectarian language.His further response; ” ah,sectarianism,what to do about it? ”
So as the clock ticks tonight on the fate of Rangers Football Club I think of all the Celtic Supporters I know or have known and wonder how they would vote,if they had the opportunity,on the future footballing fate of Rangers.
I cannot think of anyone who would vote to help them.Not because we would gain a few points advantage in one season,or because we might gain many points over a number of seasons.Not because that they would be out of Europe for a few years.Not because they would suffer the indignity of relegation to lower divisions.Not because they would lose their unbroken line of dignified success.Not because we might negotiate ourselves into a different league.
I think all of the people I know or have known would vote against them because this is a once in a lifetime opportunity to pay them back for the years of sheer bigotry they visited upon generations of Celtic-minded people.That bigotry and injustice manifested themselves in wider Scottish society.I believe they are a cancer and if we have the opportunity to remove it then we owe it to the lost generations to act.No matter the financial impact upon us.
As an earlier poster commented,if we vote otherwise,Celtic will be diminished.I would be lost without this Club I hold so dear but I suspect,in the end and like so many others on here,I would withdraw with a heavy heart.
Lads there is a lot of clever people on here me excluded lol but remember phil also said the deal has been agreed by the SFA so what i would like is suggestions as to what we are we going to do about this corrupt SFA..
Lads i also sen’t a letter to the SFA over a week ago about issuing rangers a uefa licence and they still haven’t came back to me..
Good auld Fifa tell Engerland No Poppy allowed
Makes sense to me
Br\o/gan R\o/gan Trevin\o/ and H\o/gan says:
8 November, 2011 at 21:51
excellent work again and thanks. i’m sure you’re passing all of this on to celtic and our legal department
EWO
Well he could I suppose don the mantle of a ‘whistle blower’ by revealing commercially sensitive info. But he would have to demonstrate a public interest motive. ‘Not agreeing’ is not public interest. He would then be kicked off the board on some commercial malpractice basis and we would be back to square minus 1, since the damage would already have been done.
If of course he kept schtum about the goings on then he has achieved nada; he is just another board member beholden to the shareholder majority who will jump at Dermot’s bidding.
Hail hail
Estadio
Brogan etc
The only sure thing that will come out of their demise is the court cases that will follow follow, the hawks are hovering as we speak, money to be made here me thinks.
Superb stuff btw, 99.9% of what you say is A1, the other .1% is open to discussion
hen1rik says:
8 November, 2011 at 21:58
its the most ridiculous part of phils article that any deal has been agreed before the huns have even gone into administration. its just crazy talk.
Just got round to reading Phil’s latest article.
And if I can explain how I feel about its content thus…
Remember the scene in Braveheart?
You know the one!
William Wallace chases down Edward the Longshanks on horse only to be confronted by one of his knights. A joust ensues and Wallace is knocked to the ground. The Knight comes over to check his foe is dead and is knocked to the ground by Wallace, who immediately removes his helmet to kill him. Only to find, not an English Knight but his dear friend and combatant in arms.
You can see the puzzled look of treachery in his eyes, how could a friend, a fellow warrior side with the enemy and against all he stands for. While he his fighting for both it turns out the other is secretly plotting to keep it going!
Right at that moment, sums up just how I felt about the duplicitous behaviour of our board if indeed Phil’s article IS true.
But then I got to thinking what if?
The board are not daft, they want the same as us and to a man are ALL Celtic supporters so what is their intention here?
The board have been frugal to say the least since 2003, have kept the books more or less balanced and have put the club on a sure financial footing. Ready to take advantage of any ‘levelling’ in the football world.
WHAT IF the board members have a wee meeting. They know they would be isolated in their opposition to Rankers being parachuted back into the top flight amongst not only SPL clubs but the rank and file SFL clubs AND the SFA themselves.
You know this to be true.
So….
WHAT IF the board use the knowledge that Phil’s site is widely read and communicated to many, many Celtic fans all over the world through the new media (such as this et al) and try some BLACK OPS???
Say they told one of their associates that communicates with Phil to give him information that it was their intention to back Newco. In an effort to mobilise the ‘troops on the ground’ i.e. US, the supporters.
We would be up in arms!
Using this method they can maintain a private position within the SPL body but at the same time ensuring the mass public outrage of hundreds of thousands of not only Celtic supporters but also NON RANKERS FANS.
Remember they have not just cheated other clubs out of European monies or league placing or trophies but also the clubs FANS out of memories and history.
The board are stuck between a rock and a hard place, coming out publicly in outrage at Rankers shenanigans will sound like and more importantly BE PORTRAYED AS those uppity timmy’s moaning again.
Rankers are the establishment club, dont forget it.
Now is not the time to be standing outside our tent pissing in.
United we stand divided we fall.
They are doing a grand job trying to divide us.
Remember this little ditty???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otuwNwsqHmQ
Let them know its wrong
Br\o/gan R\o/gan Trevin\o/ and H\o/gan
Indeed sir the big tax case is even bigger than we thought and a wee 10 point reduction is not enough for their giant rap list
Goodnight to you all and tomorrow thank the lord I know I will wake up a Celt
Let the people sing CSC
BRTH
I think that ‘INCESTIGATIVE’ powers may be illegal! :-)
Hail hail
Estadio
Eyes Wide Open
Celtic40me, is a board plant ignore him, every post he backs the board,
Just logged on Bhoys, what’s this I read on Phil’s page earlier today, we are letting the orcs away with their years of cheating us and HMRC…is it true?
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Estadio says:
8 November, 2011 at 22:02
What I mean is there are certain people whom I just like the cut of their jib
Just because they cant tell us what they are saying behind closed doors doesnt mean they are not saying anything.
There are very articulate people out there who know the rules of play and are articulate to call a spade when its a spade and a cherade when its a cherade.
I think we all basically agree the board are totally out of touch with the fans, or its ‘customer base’. They are the ones who insist Celtic are a business first and last – yet only apply the rules which suit.
The Token Tim:
If your lurking…
Happy Birthday again!
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
SydneyTim says:
8 November, 2011 at 22:05
putting that to one side, lets talk football
what’s your wife’s opinion on 4-2-3-1?
celtic40me says:
8 November, 2011 at 22:03
hen1rik says:
8 November, 2011 at 21:58
its the most ridiculous part of phils article that any deal has been agreed before the huns have even gone into administration. its just crazy talk.
Ok answer me this? has phil ever been wrong
henr1k
watch the tape of the game again
when GH scores – look at CR – he gives the linesman a long hard look and plenty of time to put up the flag – before signalling the goal – what a hun!
HH
Malc,
Don’t, please….feskin’ hilarious
BRTH.
Great piece. Thanks.
Thoughts…..Just the obvious, I’ve no insight into these matters (natch) but would expect many lawyers to get even richer in the process ( no offence PF!) as Claim and counter Claims are waltzed through the legal process. Also, for what it’s worth I expect to see and hear a media led campaign by the usual suspects for the country and “the Good Of Scottish Football” etc etc to back the ranjurs…….yadda yadda yadda…..
I fully expect the Board to robustly state that the rules should be adhered to…and consequently be vilified even more by the usual suspects.
Celtic to be porrtayed as foreign bad guys…….yadda yadda yadda
I hope, that if the fall-out is sufficiently super-spectacular that it is a catalyst for Celtic to free itself from the limitations of the Spl. But I’m not holding my breath on that one.
Once again, thanks for your contributions.
hen1rik
“Ok answer me this? has phil ever been wrong ”
Yes, of course he has. He is not infallible.
SydneyTim says:
8 November, 2011 at 22:05
cheers pal, i had chosen to ignore him when instead of answering the question he retorted ‘you arent serious’…
Quiet day on the blog.
God bless Celtic and all who support her.
Or all who continue to support her.
Night bhoys.
hen1rik says:
8 November, 2011 at 22:08
today was the biggest story about celtic he’s ever posted and it was wrong. not just wrong but so ridiculous and so poorly informed that its difficult to take what he says now seriously.
Ifs……….buts……..maybes…………..I heard this………….I heard that………………precedant this…………..sfa rules this…………….fifa fair play rules that……………..financial doping rules this…………….my club might think this……………..my opinion is that.
There is a long way for this to travel yet. There sure are a lot of destinations they could travel to yet.
The worst part is not knowing. When you wake up in a pitch black room and can’t see anything the mind can play tricks on us and we see a face or a human shape.
Let’s wait a little get the facts and then act. If we act on every bit of tittle tattle we fragment our our force. We lose momentum, we fight among ourselves.
Divide and conquer.
The closer we get to the end of snake mountain (whatever form that may take) the more they will spread rumours and heresay. Smoke and mirrors, call it what you will.
Cool our heals, calm the beans; just for a moment longer.
United we stand, divided we fall.
Let’s stand united.
Let’s not fall divided.
2011 movie
on More4 now
The Flaw
global financial documentary type o thing
bunch o bankers
setting free the bears says:
8 November, 2011 at 22:10
Tell me when then please…
GARCIA LORCA Were in bridgeton did you come from
Alirght Lennybhoy
Alright lennybhoy
Hows things buddy?
HH
Eyes Wide Open no problem, i have heard from another of good sources that Peter Lawell puts info out on CQN via Plants for spin, i asked who, and was told it was obvious
Ask mim if he things its right to manupulate the transfer system ?and lie to the fans? and put 5m of the mcgeady money in to paying off the debt, just to ensure his targets are met
He will soon disapear
ST
EWO
I agree but my point is that unless the ‘fan’ has a significant shareholding/represents a significant number of shares, in a plc they will achieve zilch. Their hands and tongue will be tied.
Look at the AGM voting for what will happen and DD isn’t even an attender.
I agree with Celtic40me on this and I am the antithesis of a board lackey.
I more than accept and empathise with your motives and objectives, but change is a slow process and perhaps somewhere in a place not far from here the ingredients are being assembled. If you strain your ears you may hear the approaching rumble of the thunder returning!
Hail hail
Estadio