Turnbull should wait, Champions League TV Pot dividend

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With 10 months left on his contract, David Turnbull has given Celtic a preseason to think about.  His goals and assists stats at Celtic have been off the chart since arriving from Motherwell three years ago.  In a midfield with Matt O’Riley, Reo Hatate, Callum McGregor and Aaron Mooy his opportunities were rare.

Mooy has gone but the arrival of Odin Thiago Holm leaves David with the same predicament.  Will preseason interest continue into the darker night?  Celtic will offer a new contract, but if you were him, surely you’d wait and see what game time you got?

Celtic’s dividend of the Champions League TV Pot depends on how many clubs qualify for the group stage from Scotland.  If Newco come through the qualification process, as they did last year, it will cost Celtic around Є3m.  Next week our domestic challengers face Servette in the first of two rounds they need to prevail in.

I hoped for a Genk win over Servette last night, but the Belgians, who managed to blow the league title on the final moments of last season, were equally wasteful against a side who were away from home, a man down within 3 minutes and twice behind on the night.

Newco will be confident of progressing to the playoff round, and earning Є5m in prize money at the same time  They perform remarkably well in European qualifiers, far better than we have in recent seasons.

Still, past performance is not a guarantee of future outcomes.  Servette are four competitive games into their season, drawing three, with an away win at Grasshoppers in the bank.  It will be an interesting doubleheader.

Last week, in Andorra Hibs had to endure their own version of what happened to Celtic at a municipal park at Gibraltar in 2016.  That result did not indicate what was in store for Celtic that season (an invincible treble, in case it slipped your mind).  Celtic’s response was a measure of Brendan Rodgers and his players.  Hibs will surely prevail in the second leg tonight, but don’t bet on them having an acceptable season.

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  1. Not long now. Anyone remember what year we started to sing ” we’ve won the league again, fly the flag, fly the flag”?

  2. bournesouprecipe on

    We’ve won The league again pass the fags, pass the fags

     

     

    Misheard lyrics CSC

  3. 1981/82

     

     

    We’ve won the league again, fly the flag, fly the flag…

     

     

    In the early 1980’s British Airways had an advert with a particularly catchy tune with the lyrics ‘Well take more care of you fly the flag, fly the flag’, to urge patriotic Brits to use their national passenger carrier before any of those beastly foreign airlines.

     

     

    Celtic had led the league table since the first day in August and so confident where the Celtic fans of winning it around spring time they adopted this song as their own and it can be indeed heard around Parkhead until this day. The irony was that Alex Ferguson’s Aberdeen went on a long unbeaten run and almost snatched it from us, only a late flurry of goals against St Mirren in the second half of the final day of the season saved our necks.

  4. Chants, taunts and terracing banter

     

    Supporters Homepage | Songs & Anthems

     

    Terracing chants and banter

     

     

    Over the years Celtic fans have been famed for their quick wit and originality of their songs and chants at football matches. In this article we take a journey through the years and recall some of the best ones since the inception of the Premier League in 1975. (note: much of this is from St Anthony’s article from CU (see link))

     

     

    https://www.thecelticwiki.com/legends-and-supporters/chants-taunts-and-terracing-banter/

  5. DENIABHOY on 3RD AUGUST 2023 12:01 PM

     

     

    Not long now. Anyone remember what year we started to sing ” we’ve won the league again, fly the flag, fly the flag”?

     

     

    ——————————–

     

     

    1979?

  6. Has Paul67 ben hijacked? He hasn`t seemed very assured re Celtic of late and, even worse, he is often very positive about Newco !!

  7. Just an afterthought on Tuesday’s Testimonial. When Oh came deep, to pick up the ball, he reminded me a lot of Moussa Dembele, which is probably down to the coaching from BR, at times I thought he was a bit too deep but some of his diagonals to Yang were exceptional, and, a great weapon in transition when playing home or away in Europe, por cierto.

  8. MELVIN UDALL on 3RD AUGUST 2023 12:12 PM

     

     

    Thanks for that. I found it superbly funny :-)))))))

  9. paulsthroughball88 on

    1974-75 season

     

     

    “We had nine, they had none

     

    So we had to give them one

     

    Doo Doo Doo Doo, Doo Doo Doo, Doo Doo”

  10. bigrailroadblues on

    Good afternoon all from the Drovers, Wee Man’s and probably Lynch’s. A fine stroll to Paradise and back to old Glasgow Town. Cheers bhoys!👍🍻

  11. Saint Stivs

     

     

    That day v St Mirren was the day that our former old firm rivals were capitulating 4-0 to Aberdeen. The exact amount they needed to win by in order that Aberdeen would win the league should we only draw v St Mirren.

     

     

    We did however win the league again and we did fly the flag. Interesting time though. Aside from our two 9 in a row periods the time from summer 1978 until summer 1988 was another 10 year period when rangers only won 1 league title.

     

     

    3 such periods in my lifetime makes me feel very fortunate. Hopefully we are 2 years into another now.

  12. AIPPLE on 3RD AUGUST 2023 12:15 PM

     

    HOT SMOKED on 3RD AUGUST 2023 12:26 PM

     

    —————

     

    😃👍😂

  13. Predictions:

     

     

    Team that starts on Saturday will be weaker than the team that finished last season.

     

    More first-teamers from last season will leave. My bets are Starfelt & Hatate. Both with a decent profit.

     

    The club are prepared for this & we’ll spend a decent wedge to replace/upgrade.

     

    The team at the end of the window will be stronger than last season.

     

     

    Boom…or not.

     

     

    HH

  14. At the St Mirren game in ‘82 another chant arose – ‘we’ve won the league for Doyle’ – commemorating Johnny who died in October ‘81.

  15. We see a lot of time wasting in our football watching at Celtic park but the South Korean ladies are taking it to a new art form today.

     

     

    Incredible lack of awareness and desire to stop it by the referee who is equally poor.

     

     

    I think she may be the lady who reffed our game in Madrid.

     

     

    If this is what football is about in the future frankly it should be stopped. It’s a disgrace.

  16. All about disrupting play. We have had 2 minutes of actual ball in play out of 9 allocated in injury time. 5 Korean apparent injuries in that time.

  17. paulsthroughball88 on

    BURNLEY78

     

     

    “That day v St Mirren was the day that our former old firm rivals were capitulating 4-0 to Aberdeen. The exact amount they needed to win by in order that Aberdeen would win the league should we only draw v St Mirren.”

     

    ____________________

     

     

    And 4-0 was the half-time score, while we were still 0-0.

  18. Paul67 et al

     

     

    Every definition that I can find describes ‘Newco’ as a new company, That is what it means. Now I know Paul67 is harking back to the early days of White and Green, and uses it as some kind of comfort blanket, but in so doing he continues to perpetuate the myth, a 2012 ex post facto invention peddled by the media, and clung on to by the hordes at Ayebrokes, that of the ‘same club’. Same club new company.

     

     

    ceaseanddesistcsc

  19. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Bet 365 doing a ‘special’ bet for this season, for 1 Klub only ,Rankers to get more than 9.5 penalties 11/10……that’s for the season, not just August…….that tells you all you need to know….

  20. kevinlasvegas on

    Hail Hail from a still scorching Lagos (largs).

     

     

    I don’t think the bull is mobile enough. Though I like the Bhoy. Could be Stuart Armstrong 2.0 for Brendan. Holm looks more mobile as does Kwon (once he settles) battlers with Iwatta when needed. David is very elegant though. Tough decision for Brendan. With new contracts being chucked around just now I’d be surprised if he was sitting with an offer just now, same with Reo the daydreamer.

     

     

    KLV

  21. kevinlasvegas on

    The new additions so far are making the new season exciting. Still got Tillio to see as well. Still to being in a keeper and some defensive cover.

     

     

    Hat tipped to Mark Lawell. Holm, Yang and Rocky all look promising. Kwon will settled and tillio will be fit soon. All good in the hoops hood.

     

     

    KLV

  22. celtic 3 st mirren 0 – 1982

     

     

    another long lost chant – GREIG MUST STAY.

     

     

    McCluskeys best game ?

     

    young Paul McStay.

     

    Danny, Murdo, Roy, Tommy Twists.

     

    Davie Provan superb.

     

     

    the emotion of winning the league for doyle.

     

     

    At the game as an 15 year old, I went with my 20 year old uncle and his best pal, and taken to the pubs after, like a grown up, steaming after 2 pints, hahahaha.

     

     

    now the other thing, the place was packed, easily as big a crowd as i had experienced at celtic park up to that point, the celtic end passageways full of people , the jungle stowed, even the coatbridge end full right round to the main stand ………….. the stand itself all the back room staff and even the tea ladies behind the dug out, mike conroy in a suit,

     

     

    Official Attendnace on the Desmond Abacus – 39,6000.

     

     

    25 wonderful minutes.

     

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWlu3-_amas

  23. Big Wavy 12.36

     

     

    I am not sure I agree with you but I really do hope you are right sir !

  24. I see the Sheep have made a million on Ramadani for 1 season’s work.

     

     

    £125k bought. £1.2m sold.

     

     

    Decent bit of business. Never really stood out for me but good trading for them.

     

     

    They can now use the money to buy Liam Scales at the right price.

     

     

    Surely ?

     

     

    HH

  25. Paulsthroughball88

     

     

    Love that moniker.

     

     

    Yup rangers were 4-0 down at half time which sparked a wee bit of anxiety in our ranks.

     

     

    Alex Miller and others doing their very best.

     

     

    It must have cut through them when we started to score.

     

     

    Really bumpy pitch at Celtic park that day. I loved our strip that season. Best ever for me.

  26. And Doig going to Fulham for £6m would give the Hibbees another £1.6m to spend.

     

     

    Sadly they remain wedded to that halfwit Johnson so will probably spend it on Andy Halliday or the like.

     

     

    Welsh or Lawal going in that direction seems like the obvious thing to do. Two good players, Italy’s new found love in Scottish defenders and the EPL buying only from Italy to pretend they are not really SPFL-level players a year later.

     

     

    Cash up front and a sell-on fee please.

     

     

    HH

  27. KEVINLASVEGAS on 3RD AUGUST 2023 1:27 PM

     

    The new additions so far are making the new season exciting. Still got Tillio to see as well. Still to being in a keeper and some defensive cover.

     

    Hat tipped to Mark Lawell. Holm, Yang and Rocky all look promising. Kwon will settled and tillio will be fit soon. All good in the hoops hood.

     

    KLV

     

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    I think the opposite.

     

    We knew that we needed 4 or 5 players of real quality added to Johnston, CCV, Starfelt, McGregor, Hatate, Mooy, Jota and Kyogo in order to have the chance to compete at champions league level.

     

    2 of them are away.

     

    They haven’t been replaced.

     

    The players signed hopefully go on to prove good investment but if we are looking at where we are now to our best 11 last season we are obviously weaker.

  28. paulsthroughball88 on

    BURNLEY78

     

     

    Thanks.

     

     

    I went along confident of attending my first title-clincher, we had clinched so many since Jock away from home.

     

     

    That confidence had diminished somewhat by halftime, especially with the Pittodrie score, but the team was fantastic in the second half.

  29. David Moyes was sub that day ( I think the only sub ) and his celebrations when we scored the first goal we’re greet to see.

     

     

    The spontaneous celebration of triumphs and unbridled joy is something lost amongst the formulaic sponsors presentation requirements and faux badge kissing of the current era.

     

     

    That game and tannadice the year before and Love Street 3 years later and the 4-2 of course were all amazing games and occasions to attend but they somehow felt more organic and the celebration of the players more real than the subsequent greet treble wins of the past few seasons. Maybe only the Aberdeen cup win in first treble season comes close to that.

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