van Dijk and the 50-80 game value opportunity

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Likely summer signing number two, Virgil van Dijk, arrived in Glasgow this morning for a medical after terms were agreed with the player and his club, Groningen.  The 6’4” player, who will be 22 next month, is a Dutch under-21 international.

Virgil is two weeks younger than Victor Wanyama and emerged into the Groningen team around the same time Victor pitched up in Glasgow, they have made almost exactly the same number of appearances for their respective clubs, 62 top flight games in total, in the case of Virgil.

62 games is an interesting figure.  Enough to bed in, catch local scouts’ eyes and have well-travelled men from Glasgow watch several times before making a recommendation.  Not enough to catch the eyes of less well-organised, but no less resourceful, scouts in the bottom half of the English Premier League, who Celtic now seem to compete for talent with.

If Virgil is the real deal, another couple of dozen games might have changed the competition for his signature.

Is there a 50-80 game window which can deliver sufficient evidence of a player’s talent, but not too much evidence, which evaporates the value gap?  This hypothesis would be easy to test and if it holds would provide an interesting filter on the hundreds of names pushed to the club each year.

Have you booked for the Lions Roar event at Celtic Park tomorrow night?  Last and precious opportunity to watch how the European Cup was won with the men who did the work.  In short, priceless.  Tickets available here.

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  1. celticrollercoaster

     

     

    This is Celtic mate we will turn it around no worries. Looking forward to catching up with you as I have missed the last couple of gatherings.

     

     

    KTF

     

     

    HH

  2. Doc..,

     

    Thanks for putting that down, will be put in the book of justice stuff for further discussion and consideration :oD

     

    Seriously, thanks for the input, this needs brainstorming and every suggestion is going in, hopefully what comes out is bomb proof

     

    Hail hail

  3. celticrollercoaster on

    eez_I_thought_blinker_was_pants

     

    23:31 on

     

    20 June, 2013

     

     

    Wis’ne allowed oot!

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  4. Doc.

     

     

    There’s only so much you can tinker with regarding the home top.

     

    Not my cup of tea but son and daughter biting my ear and wallet already to get it on Wednesday.

     

    Enjoy your holiday with the family.HH

  5. 'crushed nuts?' 'Naw, Layringitis!' on

    Tomorrow’s DR: After a particularly humiliating 10-0 defeat at the hands of Spain, the Tahitian FA have sacked the current manager and are looking to appoint the oldest young manager in the game currently forging an enviable reputation in the SFL2. A clearly hungry Ally McCoist said: ‘I’m starving, when I say starving, I’m clearly hungry! This is a great opportunity for me to make a name for myself in international football, or ‘soccer’ as the Tittians say. I’m absolutely buzzing with ideas about new signings for the Tittians, Lee McCullough has got a lot to offer in the ‘looking like a serial killer’ department, Ian Black may appear to be a big drink of water, but that’s his strength, because the fact is he isnae!’

     

    Asked if he had consulted the most dignified man in the world who smells of Bryllcreem and brown shoe polish – ‘Sir’ Walter Smith, Ally replied ‘Walty has been very supportive! He told me to take the job, in the name of Christ! I never had Walty down as a religious guy! It just goes to show, he never even asked who I had in mind as a replacement for me, that’d be Kenny Shiels by the way, a quality manager!’

  6. jeez_I_thought_blinker_was_pants on

    CRC, Lionsroar67 caught me with a crackin nutmeg tonight, didn’t even get the chance to get him back!!

     

     

    Got to admit, was feeling slightly sorry for the chief sevconian tonight, does he pick the losing team on purpose ?? Or is it a habit forming thing ??

  7. viewfaethewindae on

    Big Vic to Cardiff……………….. when’s this Euro League going to Kick off?

  8. Sipsini

     

     

    Ah dae that.. Don’t Ah?

     

     

    Look… Ah am Excited as … Jack wiz.. when he Fun that Plum..

     

     

    fur..

     

     

    Celtic, Ah am sure, wull Better their Ultimate Performances,in the UpComing Fiercely Competitive Euro Contests.

     

     

    We made the Sweet Sixteen.. last Time.

     

     

    We Wull Make the Enchanting Eight.. THIS TIME!

     

     

    Jist watch oor Stoor!(Great woid..pal.. But.. Whatsit Mean?..ed)

     

     

    and.. Whit or Whitoot.. Hoops..or. Victor!

     

     

     

    Kojo

     

     

    Still.. Laughin’

  9. celticrollercoaster on

    jeez_I_thought_blinker_was_pants

     

    23:38 on

     

    20 June, 2013

     

     

     

    He was talking to me about the new Hoops top and I was telling him there was now 67 hoops on the top and then he got it :-)

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  10. what a waste of time tonight was.

     

    doing research for a degree in anthropology.

     

     

    assignment ; find a handsome hun

     

     

    environment ; found june to july, in orange and purple plumage, walking or marching along the queens highways, because they are an arrogant and ancient species, ##

     

     

    result ;

     

     

    failed, there is not one

  11. My Dear Kojo….

     

     

    Do You Realise That The Name…Besiktas

     

     

    Is Derived From The Turkish For ‘Cradle Cap’….?

     

     

    But What’s The Story Behind It..?

     

     

    Coz Ah Know Ye Jist Love History…

     

     

    Any Words O’ Wisdom Fae Nutsy,Lou…Or Lil’ Audrie.?…

     

     

     

    All Stumped….Ah Imagine….

     

     

    Well The Story Goes….That The Bright And Brilliant Byzantines…..

     

     

    Brought A Flagstone From The Floor Of The Stable In Bethlehem….

     

     

    Where Our Saviour Was Born….

     

     

    Back To Olde Constantinople…

     

     

    And There Was….At One Time……

     

     

    A Church Built Over This Relic….

     

     

    In The Neighbourhood Now Cried ‘Besiktas’

     

     

    In Later Years,The Flagstone Relic Was Moved To The Newly Built Cathedral…

     

     

    The Hagia Sofia (Holy Wisdom)…..

     

     

    Which Was The Very Cradle Of Christendom….

     

     

    Long Before St.Peter’s In Rome Was Even A Pipe-Dream…..

     

     

    So What Became Of The Flag-Stone….

     

     

    From The Floor Of That Bethlehem Stable?

     

     

    Well The Hagia Sofia Was Sacked By An Unruly Horde Of Invaders….

     

     

    Back In The Day….

     

     

    And It Has Been ‘Lost’ To History….

     

     

    But The ‘Triumphalism’….Persists….

     

     

    Dear Brother Walfrid….Would Not Have Approved…

  12. Hi folks,

     

     

    Not been on since last weekend and what a weekend.

     

     

    The Roses were back in town. They were sensational again, just like 1990. Every Roses fan knows Broonie cannae sing but I tell you what, the crowd were bouncing when they came on and all the way through their set, Broonie, Broonie!!!

     

     

    The Roses, if they are like others should Capitalise and play a gig @ Glasgow Green every season @ £55 a pop.

     

     

    Somehow I don’t think they are that way inclined. Kids today can find every concert by every band/person on that Youtube and usually on very good quality. That is taking away so much from the anticipation of the event. FFS already seen it on the Tube blah blah blah.

     

     

    I just hope they don’t wait as long as 23 years until the next time they play Glasgow again because it wasn’t until Wednesday before my auld body started to recover. There was a multitude of huddles and pogo’ing all through the set and I certainly ain’t getting any younger.

     

     

    If they do decide to wait 23 years, and fair play to them if they do, I will be 64 and the wee man will be 35. As ma buddy 16 roads would say. Take yer time. ;)

     

     

    Great news about the 2 Giants we have purchased, we really need a guy who can knock the ball in the net from deliveries from our wide men. Europe, well we all seen that Juventus were crapping it from us that much they had to resort to shocking tactics to deny us, ably assisted by a terrible referee. We have just upped the ante for next season. ;))

     

     

    We shall not be moved.

     

     

    Not by the deceased, the Hibs or the deceased. We shall not be moved.

  13. Green Lantern (((((0))))) on

    Alternatively……..

     

     

    Bring on the zombies the Hibs the zombies. : )

  14. Sipsini, I saw one I now well, he stopped and turned when he saw me coming.

     

    No amount so shouting him over was going to work.

     

    I laughed for about 10minutes, must have hurt:-0)

  15. the ibrox “biggest steel beam in the world, world record , ” cantilever roof support.

     

    trouble with weight load, and support structure, not into the terra firma enough,

     

    thats all i can say,

     

     

    well, and the asbestos, in the other 3 1980s buildings that others have denied,

  16. Right, need an earlyish night, long drive tomorrow, I’m a passenger tomorrow, so an easy enough day, downside, I’m in charge of the kids, herding cats springs to mind.

     

    I hope Paris is prepared for what’s coming!

     

     

    Night all. I’ll only be on here if I can get wifi on holiday, so see you in a couple of weeks.

     

     

    Might manage a lurk now and then.

  17. My dear,dear,dear, Friend.. The Singing Detective

     

     

    Hiya..Palomine?

     

     

    Wiz oan the Cusp o’ Ma Departure..

     

     

    But,,Whit the Hades..

     

     

    Turkey, looks Ripe.

     

     

    fur whit?

     

     

    Tae No chinge the Subject..

     

     

    How aboot those dem.. Colorado Questionable Forrest Infernos?

     

     

    Hmmmmmm

     

     

    Noo..If Ah wur a Fanatical Fundamental Islamist..

     

     

    Which Ah . Soitenly , Urnae.. but.. If Ah Wiz..

     

     

    Then..

     

     

    Why.. It wid be.. jist roon aboot this part of the Season..

     

     

    That it wid Behoove Me.. tae hiv an Incontestable Urge.. tae be Taking Lonely and Solitary Walks , amongst the Tall And Uncut.

     

     

    They say that opportunity only Knocks.. Wance in a Nightgoon!

     

     

    Right??

     

     

    Gotta really leave, Pal.. this time

     

     

    Seeya Anon.

     

     

    Kojo

     

    Still, Laughin’

  18. Doc.

     

     

    Hunchbacks the lot of thems.

     

     

    See you at Celtic park I’ll be sitting with my son with his blonde curly mop.

  19. Doc is Neil Lennon

     

     

    23:52 on 20 June, 2013

     

    ____________________

     

     

    It dinsae have the same ring to it though, although I’m sure over time it will grow. :)

     

     

    Green Lantern (((((0)))))

     

     

    23:55 on 20 June, 2013

     

     

    It’s had a Remix!!! :D

  20. corkcelt

     

     

    00:02 on 21 June, 2013

     

     

    Moonhowler shift begining, time for a bit of shut eye for this Tim.

     

    _____________________________________________________

     

     

    God Bless m8ty.

  21. 'crushed nuts?' 'Naw, Layringitis!' on

    How do Media Monkeys cook a a non story? Produce a press release which contains a client name and hope that the supine, slabbering hacks will do the rest:

     

     

    From yesterday’s DR:

     

     

    GREGGS have held talks with the SPL over plans to seize control of the football pie market.

     

    REALLY?

     

    The Record has learned that senior figures from both organisations, and a number of clubs, have been in secret discussions that could spark a bake-over takeover.

     

    BUT

     

    An SPL insider said: “Any overall deal would be difficult because the clubs have individual contracts but Greggs are most interested in the big clubs with high volumes of sales.”

     

    THEN

     

    A Greggs spokeswoman said: “Currently we have no plans to supply the Scottish Premier League but are always open to new business opportunities

     

     

    ——–

     

    So within the DR article there is an emphatic rubbishing of it’s own exclusive!! But, isn’t there a link between Ally and the steakbake? Yes, on this forum!

     

    Proof that journalists would sooner p1sh the sofa than go to the toilet!

  22. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    The Singing Detective Demands The Resignation Of Campbell Ogilvie

     

    23:49 on 20 June, 2013

     

     

    You`re a mine of information.

     

    Keep it coming.