Thanks to everyone who contributed questions for the Forum last night. It was an open, frank and productive meeting. Draft minutes will be distributed to attendees to be checked for accuracy before being formalised, after which the meeting’s outcomes will be made public through various outlets.
One thing which is evident, and goes largely unacknowledged, is the significant contribution made by Auldheid in building the channels needed for constructive dialogue between the club and supporters. Well done, Pat.
I see Neil Lennon in the news being “flattered” after Norwich City chief exec, and former Celtic commercial director, David McNally, told the media he believed it only prudent he keeps an eye open for a new manager, should Chris Hughton ‘leave’. Neil answered well, refused to comment on a job which is already filled, while setting a standard answer, suitable whether he was interested or not. There is no point firmly denying interest in a job as a subsequent refusal to do so for a different position would leave too much information on the table.
McNally is right, it is only prudent you keep an eye on these things, but can you imagine how Hughton feels when reading this stuff, or what the resulting speculation will do to the club’s relegation chances? There is now far too much information on the table now for Hughton to be effective.
A football manager needs authority and respect, Houghton has been denied both. Norwich should do the decent thing and pay the man his contract before they sleepwalk into the lower leagues.
It’s funny how different people read the same thing in different ways. An announcement that a club is in discussions with a couple of existing shareholders to borrow money to provide working capital is self-explanatory in most respects.
The announcement by Newco Rangers this morning establishes that the club needs a fresh injection of money to pay its bills. We all knew this, but the sharp-eyed will also have noted that this loan will create the club’s two major creditors. No bank will lend to Newco, their creditors will be limited to trade suppliers, HMRC and other football clubs, all pretty low values. This £1.5m loan is likely to give the lenders sufficient control to vote through anything they desire, should administration occur. The controlling directors and creditors will be one and the same.
Newco Rangers has been rag-dolled since its inception by various pressure groups within the broader family who seem determined to stamp on whatever green shoots of recovery exist. What it really needs is the kind of strong leadership this directors-creditors group can provide, leaders who will do the right thing, take the necessary medicine and stand firm against the quislings. While others tried to get the club for free, they paid their money, continue to do so, and deserve the chance to run their club as they see fit. For what it’s worth I think the club and its current controllers are a perfect fit. I hope they use their largest creditor status to protect their interests.
Congratulations to STV’s Peter Smith (aged 12 ½), who scooped the Royal Television Society’s Young Talent of the Year award, achieved partly because he was prepared and able to ask hard questions, when many of his elder peers would rather eat their own toe nails. He’s still not uncovered that Dallas Cowboys email, so more work still to be done.
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Neganon2
What time please?
Steinreigned,
Ok. Is it hunpty numpty?
Has someone gave him the news That he might be back to advertising jam roly poly for 39p, sooner than he thinks? :)
MWD Great stuff
Fantastic, a timely reminder what this blog can achieve
HH
If the Dutch national side have four or five central defenders who are better than big Virgil then they must have a hell of a squad.
Northbhoy,
No worries. I think the ‘worst’ part in the article I read was that Efe said they were hoping to do better than last time.
HH
Earlier this morning. SFTB explained more about the act but I still have very very significant concerns.
Ernie
Stop blaming SNP. Every party has signed up for it, whether you agree or disagree with the premise. And please take cognizance of the fact that you Labour Luvvies started the process in 2004
ernie lynch
Maybe a tad harsh on the club there but certainly being based in Livingston is a stumbling block. In years gone by we had Morten Weighorst attend our dance. He had come through his illness and not long returned to action. Our actual player of the year voted by the members was Andreas Thom. We were told that Morten would be able to attend as Andreas was not available. We were delighted that Morten had made the effort to come and the trophy was engraved with his name. He was our POTY. Unfortunately Morten was a bit late I think Celtic had played away that day. Our dance was usually arranged for an away match so that the majority of members could get ready and arrive on time and stay sober!
Morten got lost on his way to the hotel in Bathgate and stopped at a garage for directions. The woman at the till asked him why he was looking for the venue and he said he was attending a CSC dance. She was a Celtic fan and asked what players were going. Morten regaled this tale during his speech and spoke very well with some great humour in his half Scottish accent. When he was accepting the trophy on behalf of Andreas our president cut in and said he was our player of the year it was an emotional moment. The big man was visibly moved. It was a nice touch. You could see it meant a lot to him maybe it helped in his rehabilition. Maybe not. It certainly wouldn’t have done him any harm. It allowed him to connect though. He got what it was all about. You could tell that on the night. He made an effort. Everyone appreciated that. He was warmly received. He was not a star player. I’m not being unkind with that assessment. Morten was a fine player. Anyone who seen his rehab for his injury would be shocked. The guy virtually had to learn to walk again. He was an excellent guest for us.
Maybe being in West Lothian doesn’t help us but having a player secured allows you to get the wheels in motion to stage such an event.
The games being on Sunday’s doesn’t help either. The club can;t assure you have a player because a match may be rescheduled and the player is with the team in a hotel beforehand. If the club could have various former players on some kind of rota system or similar that would help.
The fans are vital to the club and they must be able to connect with the players if possible. If former players are as close as they get it’s a start!
LB
good morning cqn
Super Ally on Sky,20,000 replies to survey,hope they got mine,how is it I feel when he is on TV its kind of false,and full of porky pies,how apt………..
H H
steinreignedsupreme
10:25 on 21 February, 2014
Come on….tell us…hahahahahahaha…….Ernie “Humpty Dumpty”……brill…!!!!!!!!
Billy bhoy I am blaming the scottish government for this nonsense – all of the MSPs who voted for this need their heads examined. But the SNP agenda appears to be to legislate against the pesky citizens of Scotland on everything. They are authoritarian, intrusive, condescending and it’s getting more and more sinister by the day.
Moonbeams WD. Kano 2000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 29.9%. Champions. C’mon Wee Oscar.
Heart-warming, a beacon of light in a grey morning .
Great news for the family and a credit to people like yourself on CQN.
HH.
The referendum is not about the SNP they would be only one of many parties in an independent Country. I do not have a vote this year, heart says yes head says maybes no. But it is not about Salmond or the SNP or even the Tories. It is a historic vote for sure. night all have a good one.
A Repost from:
setting free the bears supports Res. 12 & Oscar Knox
at:
01:05 on 21 February, 2014
I am reluctant to get dragged into the debate on the Named Person role because it started beyond Spinal Tap’s level 11 and has cranked up from there.
I will post my perspective and I will not get dragged into this debate.
Firstly, this bill is not an SNP stand alone policy. It was agreed by all parties bar the Tories, who agree with most of it but want to pander a bit to the Christian Right (not usually an area you look to in defending personal freedoms). It grew out of Social Work thinking and requests from parent groups and young people’s advocates for a more co-ordinated state response to collating information.
The Concept of a Named Person, has alarmed people largely because of presentation issues and a failure to explain. Plus, some of those quickest to react have not been too disposed to listen to explanations.
The Named Person would be better described as a Point-of-Contact or Information Co-ordinator. They would usually represent the agency best suited to the child’s age and stage i.e. Health Visitor for early months, Nursery Nurse and School personnel for the majority in the 3 to 16 age range.
They do not replace or surpass parents and they have been granted no additional powers that have not always been available to the local authority personnel, who have always had the duty to assess and decide on whether adequate care is being given to a child in a family situation.
There have been Named Persons available to young people with Additional Support Needs in Scotland since the mid-90s and they have operated without fuss. In the field of Child Protection, there have been Safeguarders and Advocates (not the Legally trained ones) to represent the Young Person’s voice in decision making, for just as long.
This current application of a Universal Named Person for every Child, as envisaged by this Act, has been rolled out in Highland Region for over 3 years now and no-one noticed anything much different.
Government and the State already have duties outlined to monitor and assess children to see that they are thriving and that includes making observations on how they are coping with family life (to look for issues of abuse, neglect and emotional care mostly). The State’s right to intervene is heavily limited by a variety of personal rights act, including the UN Convention on Human Rights, the Children Act, and many other pieces of legislation. They are not going to increase Receptions into Care because a teacher disputes how you handle a child; most professionals have the opposite pressure i.e to reduce Receptions into Care because the State is a poor parent generally.
You should be re-assured that the state has neither the resources, the intention, or the capability to get any more involved in the nitty gritty of family life. 95% plus of families will be blissfully aware of any change as there will be no need for action and, therefore, no actions undertaken.
I understand that people are spooked by the language and the overtones. I do get that. I wish they had called it something different.
I am wholly in favour of civil liberties and I am not at all ill disposed to a bit of SNP or politician bashing.
This Bill does not alarm me at all. The debate around it spooks me more than the Act itself.
Civil Liberties organisations are not raising objections here; right wing groups are. That should tell you something.
I would relish another opportunity to bash the SNP as the ObaF Act did reveal an Authoritarian and Populist tendency in them.
This Act is not as authoritarian as it sounds. It is a pious aspiration more than an intrusive offence. In the 3 years of its application in Highland region it caused not one bit of fuss.
I have said my piece. I think we need to inform ourselves more before we choose whether it’s worth heading for the barricades.
There are many genuine threats to civil liberties in the world. This Act is not one of them.
Good Night CQN
WT
Good morn cqn.
Jim White and shooper shallary obviously attended the same ‘fake’ finishing school or lodge!
Neganon2
You can blame all you want that doesn’t make it true.
I hope you also blame them for including in their manifesto that contrary to Labour they are getting shot of Trident.
I also hope you blame them for interfering by introducing, and Labour voted against, free school meals for primaries 1,2 and 3 with the objective of going up to primary 7.
I hope you blame them for free further education, despite every Unionist Part voting against it, and resolved to charge.
I just it’s fair to give credit when it’s due and well as criticism.
See Andy Walker spouting crap again when he says, ‘ FF shut-outs are not in the same class as Bobby Clark’s.
What is it about ex celts in the media?
whitecrook tim
How many times did sleekit say…absolutely,to be honest and them fans have been brill they
huv gave me some wagepacket?
67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors 11:06 on 21 February, 2014
Sorry. Had to do some work there. What’s the world coming to, eh?
The answer is ole David Moonbeams. Seems he is getting shunned by some, ahem … former friends.
Which is nice.
How many of the survey responses actually came from fans of the new club? I’m betting a fair few came from Celtic fans.
VP
His body language is absholutely honeshtly at odds wi the stream of lies fae his gub.
Livibhoy
Nice story mate,hard not to like big Morten.hh
Delaneys Dunky
Please don’t mention his body language……I may spew.hh
LiviBhoy – God bless wee Oscar
11:05 on 21 February, 2014
What sticks in the craw for me is the difference in attitude between former players like the Lions and the more recent crop.
Times have changed and there’s no longer the same connection between the players and the support.
So glad to see an agreement between the different parties in Ukraine. Been difficult to watch the scenes over the past couple of days.
Such a needless loss of life.
dharma..,
I think you might have been sold a pup, unless you set out to get LED’s that need a transformer.
You can get LED’s that work of 230v so no need for transformer.
I got mine from here
http://www.ledlightszone.co.uk
And the 4W one on special offer on the top right hand of the page gives off as much light as the 50W hal
Billy Bhoy 05@ 11.20. hrs.
There is no such a thing as free further education. The costs have to be met somewhere.
While university education is free for the present, College budgets have been slashed to compensate. In teachers, in buildings and in available places.
Although University is no longer for the elite it is not for all.
The Snp government have failed on their own much heralded education tests even after changing the rules in 2009.
HH to you.
STEINREIGNEDSUPREME
Oh,tough luck,I say. And not just on old Sir Pawer of Purdy,but I’m just catching up and he was gonna be my guess!
You have to feel for the poor man,all those palms that he greased,all those favours he granted,and yet it comes to this.
I hope he exacts revenge on the ingrates and dobs them in. With what he knows,they won’t have a leg to stand on.
PS-tyvm for just brightening up my month!
Moonbeams,
Loved your story about Danny and his family earlier on, sheer magic!
AR
voguepunter
Morten was a complete gentleman.
We were the first CSC to get Mogga after his wife passed away too. The early 90’s were easier to get players. Through his wife’s family we managed to get him to attend. His wife’s auntie lived across the street from me.
We had Mogga, Billy Stark, Tommy Burns & Willie McStay. That was an incredibly emotional night. Mowbray was exceptional. he played pool with the Bhoys in the back room of the hotel and the Treasurer was going off his nut. He should be speaking to the members. Another of the committee sais to him the guy has lost his wife and his playing pool with our junior members and letting them win and giving them a fiver a time. Best guest we have ever had! I thought it was tremendous. I think I was 16.
ernie lynch
A Celtic supporting player can connect. The others have to get it first. I think we have few at the moment who get Celtic. We miss Tommy in that dressing room. It will come again.
LB
Billy bhoy, as green pinta points out the free education position isn’t free. Similarly if I look at council tax freeze while slashing budgets then no matter how hard you try and dress it up the SNP are destroying public services while trying to bribe the electorate and pursuing populist non sustainable policies.
Going back to the named persons malarkey. Can you answer the conflict of interest question?
LiviBhoy
Whilst I agree with most of what you say,regarding former players attending functions,you would not want the likes of Walker or McAvennie .
I had the misfortune of listening to both at a Dubia Hoops function,I will not make that mistake again.
Billy Bhoy 05
11:20 on 21 February, 2014
The SNP have introduced a lot of populist measures in the run up to the referendum in the hope of persuading the more gullible that a separate Scotland will be some kind of Big Rock Candy Mountain.
It’s all going to come back to bite them on the arse after the referendum.
Billy bhoy ex celts in the media only survive in the media by criticising celtic. Look at the predominance of Huns on radio shows etc. it’s tells its own story.
VP
Sorry bud, him and White have put me aff ma rolls n skwerr
LIVIBHOY
Yer tale of Morten is a cracker,and well done on making his night with the POTY award.
Good thinking,indeed.
When you think back to the Fergus McCann years,we really did very badly on the injury front.
And the number of them which you wouldn’t expect footballers to suffer from beggared belief,from brain or testicular cancer,career-ending toe (!) injuries,Guillaume-Barre Syndrome,just a strange catalogue.
And we still stopped the ten,though wi a bawhair more luck,would have stopped it at eight.
I hope Tommy has had words…
Billy bhoy..
I’ll also have to grudgingly add the new build NHS hospitals not being PPI in preparation for privatisation, and the Scottish blood transfusion service being retained in the public sector unlike in England.
LiviBhoy – God bless wee Oscar
11:36 on 21 February, 2014
‘A Celtic supporting player can connect. The others have to get it first. I think we have few at the moment who get Celtic. We miss Tommy in that dressing room. It will come again.’
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Just can’t connect enough to be bothered to attend CSC functions.
The fact that they have millionaire celebrity lifestyles might have something to do with it.