All week I’ve been telling myself that it is a healthy thing that discriminatory chanting has come under the spotlight prior to Euro 2012. The world needs to focus on those who are unable to find an outlet for their testosterone without picking on the vulnerable.
We know all about discriminatory chanting in Scotland, you could say, we’re up to our knees in it, so I’ve been slightly uncomfortable at the tone to some of the reporting about Poland and Ukraine. It feels a bit like we’ve decided, ‘They have it too, let’s talk about them. Not us’. When I say “us”, I don’t mean you, of course.
Fair enough, I thought, let’s bring this issue out, but at the start of the second half between Netherlands and Denmark when BBC commentator Jonathan Pearce reported “We haven’t heard any racist comments here today. Not when the young, black, Dutch left back got the ball, or at any other time” I figured this is more about xenophobia than racism. Xenophobia about Eastern Europe.
We’re no wiser about how to deal with our testosterone-fuelled under-achievers with a purpose to find than anyone else. In fact, we’re worse for allowing our intellectuals to indulge in the last refuge of the scoundrel.
My money is on the Polish and Ukrainian fans emerging from this tournament with a better reputation than some of their Western European counterparts.
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Bould bhoys
What a F****n moron.
This is what runs our national association?
Deflect, Deflect and genuflect.
Teuchter
Cults,
The Beach sounds good. Just 3-4 boys. Will give you a shout when the season starts as will be lookin for some neutral seats at Pittodrie :)) Thanks amigo, muchos gracios !
Thindimebhoy @ 02:39
That was a great post !
It’s preaching to the converted as you know, but still crucial words ! We only can hope that some of the trumpets elsewhere will listen.
If you captured one of them, it was worth it. HH
Teuchter ár lá @ 02:39
:))) the legend lives on in Lenny…. :))))
Campbell Ogilvie
Translation:
I’m a wideo . I have a brass neck. I’m only leaving with a major pay out. I admit nothing.
FFM
Amen brother!
Nah,
Campbell Ogilvie…
“Corruption on a grand scale?
Whiteverrrrrr .
Next expense ridden meeting please?……..”
Teuchter ar la
Astonishing mate. ” It wisnae jist me whit ye pickin on me furr..? ”
Dear Lord.
Appears to have done a billy dodds aswell..
A: I took one on myself. I didn’t have any of my salaries paid through them. It was three bonuses, as I said back in March, that I got through EBTs. And when I left the club part of my settlement agreement was through EBTs.
Is that not a contradiction..?
There is no way I would have taken an EBT on when I was leaving the club if I thought there was an issue with them.
Taken an EBT on …..?
As in Taking On a Loan……………? Or risk getting away with a Tax Free Bonus…?
Think Im right in saying, the EBT scheme worked basically on a loan basis….?
Yet not one penny has been paid by any one of the recipients….?
Hi folks,
Just a wee question.
Everyone here knows about EBT’s.
My question is, how long can I keep talkin money from you all usin the tax-funded SFA grants, and by avoiding payin tax? Roon ye all. Broon brogues polished.
WATP.
I rule.
Love.
A.N Other Hun
Man is an obvious crook, like the rest of them. Not even a hint of remorse.
The bould ffm Hector’s bhoys
What a stupid question.
You don’t know what you’re talkin about you internet bampot.
Cults
From the other night
A Dundee fans point of view
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Apparently the SFA are preparing to annonce a severe penalty on all those at ibrox involved in disgracing Scottish Football, they are to be lined up before the commitee and sternly told that they are very very naughty boys and not to do it again.Meanwhile any club who have been nasty to rangers will start with a 30 point deduction.
Its as likely as the SFA doing the right thing.
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Hopefully the SFA will give Rangers a massive penalty as it’s clear from the lack of action at the SPL that they are powerless to punish Rangers and I doubt that they would do so even with the additional powers they have just voted in.
The chairmen of some clubs in the SPL are clearly happy for Rangers and Celtic to win the SPL every year and hope their own club can maybe win one of the cup competitions.
They don’t want to lose the Sky Tv money so will do all they can to avoid punishing Rangers too severely. It’s extremely blinkered of them as I know supporters of SPL clubs that are seriously considering never supporting them again if the SPL allow a newco Rangers to walk into the SPL.
If Dundee were in the SPL and voted to allow a newco Rangers into the SPL I too wouldn’t be renewing my season ticket and would probably never ever go back to Dens!
Interesting times!
Fholks,
I have a genuine dilemma here.
For years I’ve been working as an industrial spy double agent.
But I’ve made SOOOOO much money under my hun disguise that it’s kind of twisted my mentality a tad.
Question.
If I bury the huns now, it means blowing my Unseen Fenian Hand cover which weakens my fellow underground fenians.
So should I shop them all, take the money and run, and meet up with Agent Whyte and Joanna Lumley for a shandy in Monaco?
Or should I arrange a meeting with Sally to discuss next years illegal player registrations??
I’m in real turmoil. You would think my job is under threat as president of the SFA, but this country is a walkover, brothers.
Thoughts?? Yours in Celtic, RC Ogilvie. Ta.
Geez a bung.
What school did you got to, reader??
Campbell
For a start, whits wi the two surnames pal?
Also – Can you explain how the hell SDM was even contemplating throwing a leg over Joanna Lumley?
What have you done with Agent Cultsbhoy
Teuchter
Quick news ????? I’ve had faster responses from the appeals committee.
You shower of fenian b’;’oikjhs
Do you love my dignity? genuine question.
Teuchter ár lá
FFS.
When we met Joanna, allegedley, there was no leg throwing, no cults, nowt.
We just asked for the cash.
Simples.
Problem with that?? You feckin Tims would start a fight in an empty A & E ward, struggling for funds due to lack of payment from my fellow loyalists.
Campbell
God bless you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xpUtKAD40s
TAL
Teuchter ár lá
FFS.
I mean,
FFS.
You fenian feckers will NEVER understand the importance of money and control in all this mess.
.. I do though.
That’s why I’m shiting maself.. <:O
CAMPBELL OGILVIE last night admitted for the first time that he would step down as president of the Scottish Football Association if he felt his former involvement with Rangers and the Employment Benefit Trust scandal surrounding the Ibrox club was causing problems at Hampden.
Hmmmm….
Let’s get …..ahem ……..”lobbying”
The bould Hector’s bhoys
I never said any such thing, you fly b…
What’s the SFA anyway??? Just an admin co for the glorious glasgow rankers.
But a failing one.
Time for change.
I’m the man to lead that change.
You can’t vote though, so – sadly :((( – I’m goin to have to keep taking government cash, ie your taxes, until I find a way to get me out of this mess.
Love and hugs,
CO. The Man in Charge of Scottish Football.
I love my job.
Nae threats.
Roon yez ya fenian Bs.
Dec,
Respect wee man.
You might be a wee fenian in disguise, but you talked sense.
He said: “From day one I have said I cannot be part of any discussion on Rangers.” [Sun]
Day one …?
Well aside from a “briefing back in March”
[Express]
In Trap We Trust…
CO
Was with you all the way up to Time for Change bit !
:1
The post above clearly didn’t work,however, (as yer man kojo would say) it was the 444th comment on this article.
And that has got to be lucky! :)
eIRE gO bRAGH..!
Yous all have a problem with my cash generatin scams. Makes ye all bigos imo.
The bould Hector’s bhoys
Thanks for the support my new friend.
Time for change was back in 1690.
Follow Follow amigo. Down with evil non protestants and wot not.
Cambpell Ogilvie on 10 June, 2012 at 04:08 said:
Are you a Mason,mate?
Sixteen roads
What’s a mason?
Bits and pieces taken from the McLeish Report. I wonder if anybody at the SFA actually got around to reading it. (apologies if the formating fails)
What is the Purpose of Football in 2010?
What do we want the game to achieve?
What is the vision for Scottish football?
What are our expectations for the national and club game in Scotland?
What kind of football nation do we want to be?
What does the game represent or stand for?
What are the principles and values that drive the game?
What is the purpose of football in the 21st century?
Background to the work of the SFA
In a very complex institutional set up in Scotland what then are the broad areas of concern:
• Institutions and their relationships
• Structure of the organisation
• Leadership and Governance
• Finance and business model
• External relations
• Outdated decision making- lack of coherence-too much informality-lack of MOUs and formal agreements-emphasis on representation to the exclusion of other considerations-not performance or outcome based-little focus on concepts of return on investment, public value and equally important “football value”
• No shared ambitions or vision with the wider sporting world and the other institutions such as the SPL and the SFL
The SFA: summary of key issues
• Lacks coherence, focus and a sense of overall purpose
• Ill equipped to deal with current problems, a rapidly changing social, economic and sport landscape and the challenges now evident but will intensify in the longer term
• Lack of understanding of the wider picture with an overwhelming emphasis on the short term at the expense of the long term
• Reactive and failure to plan effectively for the future
• Little appreciation of the benefits of being more open, transparent and leading the debates not just responding to them – understandable reluctance to act more proactively when you consider the extent of the media scrutiny of football in Scotland and the enduring negativity and pessimism which this generates
• Far too little coverage of the very positive things that are happening and a tendency instead to look for conflict, controversy, sensationalism and the highly personal nature of much of this. This is the unchanging world of football coverage but we need more balance. The game could be more helpful and develop this culture of openness where we are confident in what we are doing, have something positive to say and are genuinely keen to link with fans,supporters and the public
• A distinct lack of mission, vision and outcomes and objectives
• An ability to generate –perceived as such-a sense of outdated behaviour, lacking modernity and to create the impression rightly or wrongly that we are not in tune with modern aspirations and expectations.
• In many ways there is much to be said for history, tradition, nostalgia, sentiment or institutional memory and a respect for individuals and time served participation -all of that has a part to play in our thinking and approach BUT not when this becomes a constraint on modernisation and an obstacle to improving the game in terms of status, performance, achievement and greater national and international recognition and achievement. This is a huge issue for the SFA and not easily resolved. But more controversially the work of the SFA can often look like serving the institution, its traditions and procedures, its members and narrow interests-personal or sectional and in doing so becoming incredibly defensive in relation to the wider world within which football operates. This is a block on progress, grasping opportunities and exploiting potential and in getting to grips with modern business approaches, the changing world of football and the massive weight of national expectation on the game. The health and well being of our club and national game have to be more important than any sectional interests and we need structures to reflect football in the 21st century and not the practices and methods of the late 20th century. This is the challenge, respecting the past but no longer being a prisoner of it.
• The representative nature of the organisation has its attractions but again there are real strains and tensions to be overcome if change is to be achieved. The focus on what people or bodies have to lose may become more important than what the game is striving to achieve. This dilemma is not unique to football but it could pose a real threat to change.
Good governance is more important than anything but there can be ways of harnessing this degree of enthusiasm, experience, voluntarism, representative structure and commitment for a much more modern and productive organise to move the game forward
• There is a real fragmentation of approach
• The structure lacks consistency, logic and at times discipline
• The SFA despite its name often lacks the authority to truly make a positive imprint on the game-could be the result of having to make too many compromises or seeking the lowest common denominator within the corridors of power as well as the complex and inefficient decision making processes.
• There is an informality and lack of formal agreements, protocols and MOUs could also be a factor.
• A significant imbalance has developed within the game between the national and club operations especially in connection with the SPL
• There is an urgent need to raise the status and importance of the Community Game in the structures of the SFA-grassroots, recreation and youth game both male and female and the early years of elite/talent pathways. The community game is the foundations for every part of football in Scotland and the structure and governance of the game should reflect this.
• We have to recognise the importance, status, contribution and in the modern era the wider links with sport, community and so many of the national objectives of central and local government dealing with the fitness, health, confidence and well being of children, youth and adults in Scotland. In this regard we have to recognise that our structures and governance serve football first but increasingly in the modern era our remit is much more extensive and inclusive and as a consequence has to be designed for a bigger purpose.
• Decision making is slow and this impacts on the delivery of product and services
• The relationships between the SFL, SPL and the SFA and the myriad of organisations which make up the game-connectivity, shared aspirations and outlook and agreed objectives and outcomes are lacking.
• The need to be performance driven with ways of measuring progress –this is an essential element of modernisation-this is where the annual “hand out” becomes important.
Currently distributed on the basis of history not performance. A formula is require which puts this on to a sensible and transparent footing, linked to how the finance is to be spent and reflecting the objectives of the SFA and including the possibility of incentives to achieve national outputs. There has to be more accountability for the money spent and a greater sense of priorities
• Insularity, the lack of people from outside the game being involved. There is a need for new thinking to bring to the table new experiences and expertise. Outside representation common place in most other organisations
• Defensive –lack of confidence and self belief and lacking a structure and organisation that can cope with the frenetic pace and intensity of football action and activity: circling the wagons instead and often as a consequence developing negative attitudes
• Lack of performance culture
• Modernisation is way behind where it should be
• Comprehensive vision for the game required
• Formal agreements to ensure effective decision making and delivery
• Business mind set to permeate the structure
Opps!
This should have been infront of that last post.
Kitalba,
Why ON EARTH would you post such subversive, contentious nonsense??
Please don’t threaten my position as leader of Scottish football, ta.
The regression of the last 50 yrs is thanks to me and my fellow brethren. We assert out right to take more of your money for this.
FFS, you fenians are a stroppy bunch,
The Scottish Football Association
History
The Scottish Football Association was founded in 1873 and is the second oldest association in world football. Following the formation of Scotland’s earliest football clubs in the 1860’s, football experienced a rapid growth but there was no formal structure, and matches were often arranged in a “haphazard and irregular fashion”. It was clear that the clubs would benefit from regular competition and organisation. Queens Park founded in 1867 took the lead and seven clubs Queens Park, Clydesdale, Vale of Leven, Dumbreck, Third Lanarkshire Rifle Volunteers, Eastern and Granville-attended a meeting in Dewar’s Hotel on 13 March 1873. That day the seven clubs plus Kilmarnock formed the Scottish Football Association. They resolved that “the clubs here represented form themselves on to an Association for the promotion of football according to the
rules of the Football Association and that the clubs connected with this Association subscribe for a challenge cup to be played for annually, the committee to propose the laws of the competition” The world’s first international match took place one year earlier in Glasgow in 1872. Scotland’s opponents were England, the Football Association having been founded in 1863. The sport
experienced a remarkable growth and by the start of the 20th century football had become Scotland’s most popular spectator sport. The SFA and the Football Association together with the Football Association of Wales and the Irish Football Association set up the International Football Association Board in 1886 to control the laws of the game. FIFA founded in 1904 became a member
of the Board in 1913 and today the IFAB still acts as the guardian of the laws of the game. The Scottish Football Association joined FIFA in 1910 and was a founder member of UEFA in 1954.
Objectives of the SFA
The SFA is the sport’s governing body for football in Scotland and has the ultimate responsibility for the control and development. The principal objects and functions of the Association, “ are to promote, foster and develop in all its branches the game of association football in Scotland, and to take all steps as may be deemed necessary or advisable to prevent infringements of the the rules of the game and the Scottish Football Association thus protecting the game from abuses”. To achieve these objectives the principal services offered by the association are: providing assistance on football mattes to its members; the organisation of domestic and international competitive eventsat all levels; the training , selection and appointment of referees; football education and development; the continued improvement of coaching methods, courses and initiatives; liaison with other appropriate national and international organisations.