Being responsible is not always easy, especially when it comes to running a football club, where playing to the gallery offers vastly better short-term returns, and no doubt a rush of endorphins.
If your fans are engaged in an activity which regularly brings them to the attention of the courts, and your club into disrepute, it doesn’t matter what you think of the apparent offense. You may chant an offending song in the shower every morning month, but your only public comment on the matter can be to chastise and urge fans to desist.
Clubs in Scotland voted against what is known as strict liability. This means they are not held responsible for transgressions by their fans – and who wants to be held responsible for the actions of others who protected from personal liability by hiding in a crowd.
Part of the deal on not having strict liability is that clubs must demonstrate that they take all steps necessary to dissuade and educate their fans from carrying out criminal or regulatory offenses. It’s simply not possible for club to tell fans their illegal actions were justified, as this would place the club itself in the firing line.
The nonsense following the Scottish Cup final is all background noise as far as we are concerned, but be aware the contagion will spread beyond those you could consider highly dysfunctional operators.
Solving Kids Cancer in memory of Oscar Knox
Our own Bundoran Bhoy will run the Edinburgh Marathon on Sunday on behalf of Solving Kids Cancer. He has put in an enormous amount of work ahead of the event, for a cause which you are only too familiar with.
26 miles is a long way to run. You can give him some encouragement on his Just Giving page.
Good luck, Tommy.
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Gerryfaethebrig
I have a feeling in my water that this MJ will eclipse that other one, if there’s still a place in the game for players the size of Jimmy Johnstone
I never thought Stubbs would do another season in the Championship,no matter what happened in Cup Final
#myhatisbroken
great read ta much.
http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/30-may-1906-death-of-celtic-patron-michael-davitt-irish-patriot-republican-and-land-reformer/
Saint Stivs
Prawn Sandwich Brigade be along in a moment.
Nae Fenians allowed:(
HH
Woody Lee
You have caught my interest, with Mikey, as a wee guy myself am in the size doesn’t matter camp
J.J.
Probably around `61
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqaMKiPfuKo
MACJAY1
I`ve been out doing some garden related work and had forgotten what my question was!
Anyway, thanks for that (!) and here is a kind of homonym just for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Gu0dE2A60
JJ
Believe Gandhi was inspired by Davitt.
Macjay
Kind of smacks you round the face that tune:)
Any story to that….or just random?
HH
Evening Timland
I met a hun today, he lives in a valley a fair few miles away from mine, and if the truth be known, he is one of the nicer brits around, he is from Belfast, but still a hun for aw that.
He mentioned football today for the first time for ages, no that I see him that often, but it must be the re emergance of the warbiola that done it, anyways, he isny that bad, he knows they are not the same club and that they are a fair few years away from us, he also knows that without a sugar daddy they are fecked, he would be one of the few who seriously dislikes Minty with a passion.
Bought me a couple of beers to boot.
Made my day so it did :-)
TGM
I had asked a question about Bingo.
TET
It is quite obvious he was only pretending to be a Hun!
T.G.M.
The question was intriguing. I remember my older brother attempting to ” cheat ” at Housey Housey in Greystones a few years before that. These thing stick in your mind. :-)
Got me thinking.
That`s all.
JUNGLE JIM HOT SMOKED on 30TH MAY 2016 8:32 PM
MACJAY1
Thanks . Loved that as a wee lad.
BIG song in the Glasgow of the day.
Often wondered if the other vocalist is Conway Twitty .
MacJay
Cheers….just wondering.
You really pull them out the vault:)
Ive got some crackers for you….however, for some reason my laptop wont copy and paste.
One day:)
HH
For all the hand wringers and those who would have us forget our history and traditions. If it was good enough for Walfrid its good enough for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBMwjzYgOAM
Sedition is our tradition CSC
MACJAY1
A guy at my primary school was nick-named `Bimbo Doc ` (surname Docherty) and we thought the song was about him!
JJ
THE GREEN MAN SAYS SACK THE BOARD on 30TH MAY 2016 8:42 PM
I`ll look forward to it , pal.
Evening bhoys and ghirls just wanted to say a HUGE thank you to Paul67 for a push in the main article and to all who have donated so far
Completed my 1st ever marathon yesterday in absolutely scorching weather which made it even tougher but I completed it for Oscar and Solving Kids Cancer and I’m well chuffed I did.
Thanks again to all
Bundoran Bhoy HH
JUNGLE JIM HOT SMOKED on 30TH MAY 2016 8:46 PM
MACJAY1
A guy at my primary school was nick-named `Bimbo Doc ` (surname Docherty) and we thought the song was about him!
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Bimbo has a Mexican connotation.
Pan Bimbo is their equivalent of Milanda.
Believe it or not.
JJ
A few years ago when they were still alive he was as brazen as it gets, since they died he hisny been as brash, I never mention football, he has to broach the subject, then he gets it with all barrels, maybes that’s why he disny mention it too often :-)
He knows fine well, like all the huns do what happened, they cheated and got caught, end of, all that matters now is for it to be fishal.
HH
TET
DEEP DOWN I THINK THEY ALL KNOW BUT, IN SOME CASES, IT IS SO DEEP DOWN THEY DON`T KNOW THEY KNOW!
JJ
PS Sorry, Didn`t mean to shout 0:-)
Macjay1,
‘Twas Twitty , but It’s only make belief!
TET,
A couple of beers and you’re anybodies!!
https://twitter.com/80sfooty/status/737342889382973441
THOMTHETHIM FOR OSCAR OK on 30TH MAY 2016 9:10 PM
Macjay1,
‘Twas Twitty , but It’s only make belief!
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Sure looks like him , Thom.
Happy Tim days are here again.
:-)
The Green Man-I think the new Brendan Rodgers song which surfaced this weekend,will supersede the last few days’ songs debate HH
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1877924679101179&id=100006509957199
New song for Brendan
Band on the run as Paul McCartney once said WC.
BADA BING
Either version will suit me:)
HH
WC
:)))))))
Was reading it as you posted
Keep up the good work and thank you again for all your efforts on here.
WC
So the marketing guy was looking for business then out of the blue they are not interested, strange,I wonder who decided that course of action, do they the media and the SFA think they can continue to stick their heads in the sand?
WINNING CAPTAINS @ 1:12 PM
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
New Club? No Punishment…
Same Club? Oh dear….
It will be interesting to see if/when UEFA impose sanctions, on the issues raised by Res 12, what the outcome might be.
I’m assuming of course that the sanctions will be imposed direct and not through the SFA.
Now the suggestion is any sanctions raised will be imposed on Rangers FC (il) and UEFA will EITHER look at this as a Legacy punishment to be settled by The Rangers Football Club currently playing OR as a retrospective breach by the Old Club and nothing to do with the Newco.
Of course it will be an interesting to see the outcome.
Yet for me no matter what the outcome is, it must surely be another nail in the coffin for the LNS Comission report; this in reference to their Club, Company Dichotomy.
The LNS Commision findings as summerized by the BBC…
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/21618509
• Rangers will not be stripped of any of the five SPL titles won during the period in question
• The company that formerly ran the club have been fined £250,000 for not disclosing payments to relevant authorities
• The commission found that the ‘oldco’ management did not take professional advice on disclosing the payments
• It was ruled Rangers did not gain any unfair competitive advantage from the contraventions of the SPL rules
• The non-disclosure of the payments did not mean any of the registered Rangers players were ineligible to play
• As the players were still eligible to play, no sporting sanction or penalty is to be imposed upon Rangers
• Rangers’ current owners will not be held responsible for any breaches made by the previous company
Of course, the findings do look ludicrous in light of what we know today but the Club/Company destinction if anything even more so.
Does anyone think that UEFA will sanction the Old Company, exonerate the “current owners” and postulate that Rangers are the same Club.
Not a chance.
So whatever way the Sanctions fall, it will further undermine and discredit the LNS Report.
Hail Hail
JJ
Aye a know
HH
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Thom
Yip, always been so :-)
HH
WC,
I reckon the Herald guy was on a fishing trip, trying to get a preview for sabotage purposes.
Whit are the like, eh?
TET,
Thought I’d let you know that I have been constructively dismissed from TSFM.
Accused of trolling the resident tame Denier.
Chair Bhoy
Refer you to 5 Way Agreement.
Oh dear.
I wonder if The Herald are concerned about other advertising revenue? I’ll have to Park that one and wait for the Bigger Picture,,,,
https://spiersstatement2016.wordpress.com/
Who knows, nytol