One of today’s newspapers did its very best to run with a one’s as bad as the other’ suggestion, saying : “Yes, both sides have justifiable grievances. Celtic were rightly outraged at the state their stadium was left in. Likewise, the Rangers board were understandably disgusted at those mock executions of blow-up dolls draped in red, white and blue scarves.”
This is wholly misrepresenting the situation. Celtic were rightly outraged at the blow-up dolls, criticised the actions at the time while endorsing the behaviour of the fabled “vast majority”. Celtic don’t have a problem with self-analysis; they’ve done it often enough in recent seasons in the face of Uefa fines.
The blow-up doll incident, and the faux defence of it, which Celtic didn’t offer, has nothing whatsoever to do with who pays for tens of thousands of pounds worth of vandalism carried out by visiting fans at Celtic Park. You can make your own suggestions as to why it was raised in connection with the subject.
The article goes on to offer up evidence of the bigger story, which it somehow manages to miss.
“Rangers (sic.) believe they have every right to take the hump because Celtic have chosen to ignore years of protocol – an unwritten rule which has stood the test of time, whereby each club pays for damage done to its own stadium by opposing fans on derby day.”
Maybe, maybe not, but here’s the thing, whatever unwritten rules Celtic and Rangers observed died in 2012.
You want unwritten rules to persist? Pay your taxes, register your players correctly, make full and honest submissions to HMRC inquiries instead of shredding correspondence. Play by the rules everyone else has to play by.
Cheat, lie, hide and shred and you have no defence in written rules, never mind unwritten objects of your imagination. This reality should now be writ large for all to understand.
After the 1909 Scottish Cup final between Celtic and Rangers ended suspiciously in a draw, one astute observer noted that the clubs were acting in concert, like an Old Firm, in order to generate gate receipts from a replay.
With the permission of Oldco’s administrators, Newco were able to change their name to “Rangers”, but that act of an administrator cut no ice at Celtic Park, or most other Scottish grounds.
There is no Old Firm, it died in 2012. Celtic don’t use the phrase, they don’t observe unwritten rules they had in place with Rangers, they don’t want their stadium trashed, they don’t want to install “prison grade” facilities for visiting fans (this is what’s now required in Scotland in 2017, good grief!), they would happily never host the club again.
If you think all that happened in 2012 was a “relegation” (which you’d earlier reported was impossible), this might be news to you. It was more than this; it was the end of the old ways – and good riddance to them.
Celtic will stand of fall on our own merits. We will observe the laws and rules of the land, the tax authorities, the Association, Uefa and Fifa (even if it means criticising our own fans). If you’re looking for unwritten favours after vandalising our property: tough.
And for those who continually see O.F. conspiracies, none of them have ever been able to tell me a business case for Celtic to put life into that concept. It’s not good for business, no matter what the wildest conspiracy theorist might tell you. Anyone who tells you it is needs to take a look at himself.
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BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 17TH JANUARY 2017 11:44 AM
A harbinger of the Age of Stupidity and Ignorance that we now inhabit.
As vouched for by my not knowing about it in the first place.
ERNIE LYNCH.
She might have moved to Gibraltar .
David Goodwillie has been ruled to be a rapist & ordered to pay his victim £100,000
https://stv.tv/news/east-central/1378283-footballer-david-goodwillie-raped-woman-at-flat-judge-rules/
More on the live court case where Coral not paying out £250k as Rangers* not “relegated”
James Doleman @jamesdoleman 7m7 minutes ago
Another Coral email to Kinloch”They are not the same as the old Rangers.” Witness says “they still advertise the Old Firm”
BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 17TH JANUARY 2017 10:52 AM
‘Intellect’ is it, because if you don’t question Celtic’s alleged ‘old firm’ duplicity live on the internet?
Its not our personal agenda ,we live and breath Celtic on a daily basis intermingled with a zombiefied massive majority. Ask not what your club can do for you, but what you can do for your club? What could the Celtic support have done about the Rangers scandal that HMRC didn’t
More Celtic fans are worried where they can park their motor and get in and see the game, when the new city plan permit holding kicks in. Celtic fans don’t care about how Rangers reprisals, we know how they died, and we are a separate passive tribe. What about the abusively so called ‘oldfirmists’ with Celtic season briefs that body swerve Sevco games, – where do they fit in?
Presently in our slump, 20 points and at least 15 or 16 higher calibre of player clear of their nearest rivals, planning the next assault on the upper league which we’ve ligitimately attained virtually an automatic right. When the transfer window slams opens we sign the latest Ivorian prospect, for £3m up front and just for good measure , in the last window whilst England slept, we stole France’s finest, and in football terms we’ve actual money to burn.
Paul Gasgoine ,Brian Laudrup, Terry Butcher Sir Minty Moonbeams, and your FTP, they boys took a helluva beating, we’re living life to the full post Rangers and just beyond the shadows of Celtic Park life is good, Celtic flourish stroll in, stroll out, buy a ticket or don’t.
It’s ‘no intellect’ its a full blown ‘no brainer’ CSC
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Absolutely brilliant post and sums up my feelings exactly. I’m happy to buy my season ticket and enjoy watching Celtic play great football under Brendan and at the same time maintain an amused watching brief while Ersatz Rangers (I got that from one of Phil’s posters) tear themselves to shreds running round madly trying to keep plates spinning, knowing that if even one falls and smashes it could trigger Liquidation for the ethereal entity.
Corals say rangers are a New Club
James Doleman @jamesdoleman 7m7 minutes ago
“They have been making up reasons not to pay ” Kinloch says of Coral. “Now they say Rangers are a new club, they are ducking and diving”
Good day to everyone on the blog. Came on to get the latest st craic but vile mudslinging is not my thing. Have a nice day. HH.
Just logged on – read back 2 pages
Too nasty for me
Time to go
I’m not going to teach you English but there is a subtle difference between to and too.
Who needs education eh!?
Morning all
It’s funny what you remember when reading this blog and in particular the posts about Peter Lawwell’s knowledge of Rangers’ financial situation.
I recall bumping into the guy who was part of the old Keep the Faith site prior to a midweek match at Celtic Park.I have known him since I could speak although we had lost touch sufficiently for him to have not known my mother had died a few weeks earlier. But he was in a good mood all the same because that very day he had been at a meeting along with sundry others from the Celtic fan sites that was hosted by PL. The host had been happy to announce that Rangers were so hopelessly tied to the fading Murray empire and that Lloyds ( for whom I was at that time an employee) were not sanctioning an increase in credit to said empire ergo Rangers would soon be having to sell players to survive and field teams comprised only of youngsters. We were in.
My mum died on 6 August 2009 so my reunion must have been at a match we lost in the League Cup to , I think, Hearts. I believed my friend but as that season unfolded to be our worst this century so far I forgot what I was told. Pretty much until now
But now I think old Pete knew well in advance how bad things were at Ibrox even before HMRC started to seriously frighten them. It strikes me as being unlikely that in February 2012 that PL did not know that Rangers was verging on extinction.
Enjoy your days
Jimbo67
Dropped in for a read back….dropping out again.
Puerile mudslinging and vapid brickbats,what’s the point?
LATERScsc
Weeminger,
I remember your claims, around the same time, a pal of mine was trying to sell some sports therapy equipment to Rangers… Amorouso needed it to keep playing.
They couldn’t afford it he said and so sold Amorouso to Blackburn.
One thing with those times, Celtic and Rangers carried debt as they wanted to look competitive as they strived (confidently) for a place in the FAPL.
After a surprise rejection SDM claimed that the chance had gone. DD on the other hand stated that Celtic were still confident of being admitted at a later date.
Both Clubs initially drew in their horns and started paying down the debt.
When Rangers performances suffered and they came third in the SPL behind Celtic and Hearts ironically it was Rangers, who saw no FAPL future, that started ramping up the spend again, due to the insatiable demands of the fans.
Surely SDM knew then – circa 2006… That Rangers were a busted flush.
As you say… Interesting that he got by, with a little help from his friends, for so long.
Hail Hail
Bada Bing
Saw your reply last night as I was catching up. Didn’t think to reply to tour reply after such a long gap. Sorry if you thought I was ignoring you. I have an opinion on how ourclub is being run, others disagree which is fine but descending into insults just because someone has the temerity to disagree with you is not on. Debate in a reasonable manner is what this site is all about.
Paul67
I apologise if my interaction with Awe Naw has caused you grief. That was never my intention, I appreciate the effort you put in here and in no way want to add to your burden.
Guys
P67 has only a few rules… basically, summed up as disagree away, but no libellous, obscene, or vulgar posts and no personal attacks. That leaves a lot of room to debate and disagree. So, disagree… but follow the house rules.
If you don’t, I wouldn’t be surprised if P67 chucks it in. Then where would we all be?
As p67 says, if you have an issue with a post that you believe offends the rules, report it to him. Otherwise, debate the issues, but play the ball, not the man.
Hail hail
new article posted.
OWEN:
I read back.