2012 was end of old ways, OF conspiracy theorists

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One of today’s newspapers did its very best to run with a one’s as bad as the other’ suggestion, saying : “Yes, both sides have justifiable grievances. Celtic were rightly outraged at the state their stadium was left in. Likewise, the Rangers board were understandably disgusted at those mock executions of blow-up dolls draped in red, white and blue scarves.”

This is wholly misrepresenting the situation. Celtic were rightly outraged at the blow-up dolls, criticised the actions at the time while endorsing the behaviour of the fabled “vast majority”. Celtic don’t have a problem with self-analysis; they’ve done it often enough in recent seasons in the face of Uefa fines.

The blow-up doll incident, and the faux defence of it, which Celtic didn’t offer, has nothing whatsoever to do with who pays for tens of thousands of pounds worth of vandalism carried out by visiting fans at Celtic Park. You can make your own suggestions as to why it was raised in connection with the subject.

The article goes on to offer up evidence of the bigger story, which it somehow manages to miss.

“Rangers (sic.) believe they have every right to take the hump because Celtic have chosen to ignore years of protocol – an unwritten rule which has stood the test of time, whereby each club pays for damage done to its own stadium by opposing fans on derby day.”

Maybe, maybe not, but here’s the thing, whatever unwritten rules Celtic and Rangers observed died in 2012.

You want unwritten rules to persist? Pay your taxes, register your players correctly, make full and honest submissions to HMRC inquiries instead of shredding correspondence. Play by the rules everyone else has to play by.

Cheat, lie, hide and shred and you have no defence in written rules, never mind unwritten objects of your imagination. This reality should now be writ large for all to understand.

After the 1909 Scottish Cup final between Celtic and Rangers ended suspiciously in a draw, one astute observer noted that the clubs were acting in concert, like an Old Firm, in order to generate gate receipts from a replay.

With the permission of Oldco’s administrators, Newco were able to change their name to “Rangers”, but that act of an administrator cut no ice at Celtic Park, or most other Scottish grounds.

There is no Old Firm, it died in 2012. Celtic don’t use the phrase, they don’t observe unwritten rules they had in place with Rangers, they don’t want their stadium trashed, they don’t want to install “prison grade” facilities for visiting fans (this is what’s now required in Scotland in 2017, good grief!), they would happily never host the club again.

If you think all that happened in 2012 was a “relegation” (which you’d earlier reported was impossible), this might be news to you. It was more than this; it was the end of the old ways – and good riddance to them.

Celtic will stand of fall on our own merits. We will observe the laws and rules of the land, the tax authorities, the Association, Uefa and Fifa (even if it means criticising our own fans). If you’re looking for unwritten favours after vandalising our property: tough.

And for those who continually see O.F. conspiracies, none of them have ever been able to tell me a business case for Celtic to put life into that concept. It’s not good for business, no matter what the wildest conspiracy theorist might tell you.  Anyone who tells you it is needs to take a look at himself.

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  1. I wonder if the “watch yer motor mister” bhoys have been even equated? Probably their only good money…a mile is a light year in turf…

     

     

    Braw.

  2. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Celtic mac I raise you

     

     

    I was alone, I took a ride

     

    I didn’t know what I would find there

     

    Another road where maybe I could see another kind of mind there

     

     

    Ooh, then I suddenly see you

     

    Ooh, did I tell you I need you

     

    Every single day of my life

     

     

    You didn’t run, you didn’t lie

     

    You knew I wanted just to hold you

     

    And had you gone you knew in time we’d meet again

     

    For I had told you

     

     

    Ooh, you were meant to be near me

     

    Ooh, and I want you hear me

     

    Say we’ll be together every day

     

     

    Got to get you into my life

     

     

    What can I do, what can I be

     

    When I’m with you I want to stay there

     

    If I’m true I’ll never leave

     

    And if I do I know the way there

     

     

    Ooh, then I suddenly see you

     

    Ooh, did I tell you I need you

     

    Every single day of my life

     

     

    Got to get you into my life

     

    Got to get you into my life

     

     

    I was alone, I took a ride

     

    I didn’t know what I would find there

     

    Another road where maybe I could see another kind of mind there

     

     

    Then suddenly I see you

     

    Did I tell you I need you

     

    Every single day?

  3. So only residents and blue badge holders are allowed to park when there’s game on?

     

     

    Shocking.

     

     

    Perhaps this will result in a number of new brake clubs being formed to ferry fans from the suburbs and peripheral housing schemes direct to the stadium.

  4. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    CELTIC MAC on 16TH JANUARY 2017 7:37 PM

     

     

    You win Big Rock Candy Mountain is a cracker

     

     

    HH

  5. Gary67…

     

     

    Good for the CRAQUE….???

     

     

    Your grandchildren will be Celtic and free….

     

     

    Smiley thing

     

     

    Braw

  6. Melbourne Mick on

    Hello again all you young rebels.

     

     

    Another fantastic Celtic sunday over here on the rebel peninsula

     

    our wee town and club was packed with hoops bhoys and ghirls

     

    with lots of new visitors and some old ones back again to see us

     

    the whole place was jumping and our band/singer was ably assisted

     

    by one of the crowd who came up took a guitar and was absolutely

     

    sensational hope he stays for a while.

     

    Big thanks to BMCUW who informed me that Celtic are to establish

     

    a training academy over here in Oz, about time i think with the

     

    amount of talent over here and a big percentage Celtic minded it

     

    should have happened long ago.

     

    Told all our young bhoys at training last night and you could see

     

    their excitement at that prospect, so many questions like ” will

     

    they come and watch us ? or ” how do you get a trial ? so i said to

     

    them ” listen, the way you lot are training you’ll all end up with

     

    Sevco ” that fairly upped the pace he he, and who knows the club

     

    might even think about a wee shoppe for us Antipodean tims :-)))))

     

    Right time to surf the cupboards, there always a wee curer hiding

     

    somewhere that the princess has missed.

     

    H.H Mick

  7. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    ne evening as the sun went down

     

    And the jungle fires were burning,

     

    Down the track came a hobo hiking,

     

    And he said, “Boys, I’m not turning

     

    I’m headed for a land that’s far away

     

    Besides the crystal fountains

     

    So come with me, we’ll go and see

     

    The Big Rock Candy Mountains

     

    In the Big Rock Candy Mountains,

     

    There’s a land that’s fair and bright,

     

    Where the handouts grow on bushes

     

    And you sleep out every night.

     

    Where the boxcars all are empty

     

    And the sun shines every day

     

    And the birds and the bees

     

    And the cigarette trees

     

    The lemonade springs

     

    Where the bluebird sings

     

    In the Big Rock Candy Mountains.

     

    In the Big Rock Candy Mountains

     

    All the cops have wooden legs

     

    And the bulldogs all have rubber teeth

     

    And the hens lay soft-boiled eggs

     

    The farmers’ trees are full of fruit

     

    And the barns are full of hay

     

    Oh I’m bound to go

     

    Where there ain’t no snow

     

    Where the rain don’t fall

     

    The winds don’t blow

     

    In the Big Rock Candy Mountains.

     

    In the Big Rock Candy Mountains

     

    You never change your socks

     

    And the little streams of alcohol

     

    Come trickling down the rocks

     

    The brakemen have to tip their hats

     

    And the railway bulls are blind

     

    There’s a lake of stew

     

    And of whiskey too

     

    You can paddle all around it

     

    In a big canoe

     

    In the Big Rock Candy Mountains

     

    In the Big Rock Candy Mountains,

     

    The jails are made of tin.

     

    And you can walk right out again,

     

    As soon as you are in.

     

    There ain’t no short-handled shovels,

     

    No axes, saws nor picks,

     

    I’m bound to stay

     

    Where you sleep all day,

     

    Where they hung the jerk

     

    That invented work

     

    In the Big Rock Candy Mountains.

     

    ….

     

    I’ll see you all this coming fall

     

    In the Big Rock Candy Mountains

  8. !!BADA BING!! on 16TH JANUARY 2017 8:03 PM

     

     

    That’ll be a pass then ;-)

     

    Read an article on him, seems he’s more of a wide attacking player who can play in the no. 10 role. Fast and two footed. Born in Portugal, English father.

     

    A Paddy replacement?

     

    Probably more transfer window nonesense but passing the time until real football’s back at the weekend.

  9. evening CQN, hope evryone has had a good monday :)

     

     

    Melboure Mick, I really enjoy reading your posts and your gatherings with Celtic minded friends sound brilliant, do you have any videos from them on Youtube.?

  10. Why is BBC Scotland just full of shootings ,burning,job losses,…..just doom and gloom….it really is a sorry organism of the state….and that’s just Glesga and the West…..!!!

     

     

    Yooner yooner yooner

     

     

    Ha ha ha ……. To think that some of our best are unionist to the core…

     

    Maybe that is what makes us what we are…mmmmmm

     

     

    Time for a hot Pils…

     

     

    Braw.

  11. The Big Rock Candy Mountain,a classic,for young and old Bhoys, remember it so well ,when I was a very young lad , growing up in Dalmarnock,

  12. My friends in Celtic,

     

     

    Leaving aside the politics of football and Celtic in particular, most fans revert to the very basic fundamental of following their team.

     

     

    If our fans gain entertainment and enjoyment from watching BR’s team, then the fans will vote with their feet and fill the ground, regardless of what the board do or do not do.

     

    It may be simplistic, but I think it’s reality.

     

     

    On another note, I reiterate that public transport to get to Paradise can be problematic for the elderly, young or infirm. I would like to see a feasibility study undertaken about a dedicated transportation link from Dalmarnock train station and similar appropriate destinations. Bus lanes are a pain, but this may be a relevant starting point for a discussion.

     

     

    HH.

  13. Awe Naw, that’s a straight red card. If you want access to your account again I’ll need assurances as to future conduct. Your comment was wholly unacceptable for an open Celtic supporters site.

  14. The Torino Milan game on BT sports is worth watching Torino 2-0 up, missed a penalty and chances for both teams. It’s now half time but I did try and post this 20 mins ago but having problems with the site.

  15. Melbourne Mick….the man from the side of the Spey is right on the fish(season opened today)

     

     

    Great posts…..it is braw that there is green and white under the big rock!

     

     

    Geological perspective smiley thing…

     

     

    Braw

  16. No disrespect to Paul 67 whom I greatly admire but I wish it was the club that were saying the stuff in your leader

     

     

    HH

  17. Hi all

     

     

    Yesterday I looked at James Forrest’s performances as he posts the best numbers of his career so far. Is this Max Forrest? As it appears we are seeking to extend the arrangement to keep Paddy Roberts, today I look at his performances since joining as a comparison piece to the player he is vying with for the attacking right forward position. Dare we dream of seeing Max Roberts? Enjoy, please follow on twitter for shorter stat updates and comments / feedback welcome.

     

     

    http://celticbynumberscom.ipage.com/paddys-lament/

     

     

    HH

  18. Melbourne Mick on

    Anyone else having blog problems?

     

     

    SPEYSIDELHAD

     

     

    If you can log on to SOCIAL CELTS MORNINGTON Facebook

     

    the young bhoys and ghirls put pics and videos up regularly

     

    also the BAY HOTEL MORNINGTON Facebook, i’m not tech

     

    minded but i’m hoping to sit down with the wee mhan and

     

    get some photo’s of our hoops bhoys and their new custom

     

    built football facility on here as soon as it’s completed.

     

    If you manage to see the CSC pics me and PADDYMACOZ

     

    will be the two auld clowns dancing :-))

     

    H.H Mick

  19. melbourne mick

     

     

    Bobby Murdoch’s… flagged up a problem earlier in the day. Problem is definitely with CQN, very slow in responding and cutting out completely at times. Some great posts recently Mick!

  20. CBN ( you do answer to that I hope).

     

     

    Fascinating stuff for a closet geek like myself

     

     

    Jimbo67

  21. The hun players must the the most intelligent on the planet, according to the bread man walking they learn stuff every game they play, so it will be diplomas instead of medals come the season end for the bright boys, another thing I hope they keep the slaverin gobsheen, he doesn’t have a feckin clue about being a coach.

  22. TET….tells about how the smile is ….and all the new dugs….smiley hunfreevalleything…

     

     

    Braw,

  23. Melbourne Mick on

    CELTIC MAC

     

     

    Yes i thought that, takes ages to reload and i’m always playing

     

    catch up with the time difference… hey ho.

     

     

    THE EXILED TIM

     

     

    Slaverin gob sheen, love it.

     

    H.H Mick

  24. Braw

     

    All the new dugs are nearly all gone, two left, one can’t go for a few weeks yet as he has to be 16 weeks to enter Holland cos that is where he is going, the other one we are swithering on keeping her or not, she is a stunning looking dog, will be the size of a German Shepard so no a wee dug, decisions, decisions.

     

    The smile is hopeful things are on the up, she now has a Dr who is on the ball and is willing to listen to her, something most are not willing to do, at the end of the month she will get her MRI scan results and we should know what is what.

     

    HH

  25. Prestonpans Bhoys

     

    The breadman has a long, long way to go afore he is as sleekit as the fat gardener, tho he has caught the hun entitlement quick enough, sally had many years to perfect his sleekitness, whatever, I hope they keep him, he is clueless, it was great to hear bfdj singing his praises earlier tonight, till bfdj throws him under the bus he stays :-)

     

    HH

  26. Oooft, Awe Naw Red Carded for a rendition of Big Rock Candy Mountains.

     

     

    American folk song embargo!

     

     

    Harry McClintock strikes from beyond the grave; No Burl Ives numbers on CQN!

     

     

    I had a Laurel and Hardy number lined up – but ‘the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia’ in the lyrics is why I’m binning it; don’t want to go the same way as the ‘Big Rock Candy’ criminal…

  27. TET….

     

     

    Please give the smile my best..

     

    .J will work it out …

     

     

    Braw,

     

     

     

    Lots of braw thoughts are always streaming your way …