One of the problems of doing your business discretely is that if and when agents or selling clubs publicise your interest in their player, media attention has a tendency to attribute too much focus on the most recent name revealed. Teemu Pukki is a player Celtic have been trailing for some months but the fact that his agent yesterday revealed their interest is no indication that he enjoys any pre-eminence over others strikers being considered. If anything, briefings from the agent are an indication of the opposite.
Reports yesterday that Pukki is backup in case a bid for Finnbogason fails are also wide of the mark; this is not the active path Celtic are working on. There are (at least) two other strikers under consideration, neither of whom have directly or indirectly leaked the discussions.
Nothing sells media adverts like transfer ‘news’, which is fair enough, but news is easier to find than the actual story. This is a ‘no news’ article, the easiest of all. No panicking in the back…
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weeron,
Support? You’re talking about CFC?
So we shouldn’t ask questions about the government of the club?
Please answer that.
Why has there been nothing said about the theft of c£20M every year RFC played illegally in the CL?
Why are our most organised group of supporters being harassed and intimidated if not BY the Board, at the very least, with their collusion?
Answers on a postcard Mr Positivity please.
Do YOU understand the concept of support? If you’re relating it to going to the pictures, then I get where you’re coming from.
Weeron
This is a blog …talking shop …a place to air ones concerns …a fantasy place where people adopt personas , pretend etc
However
Supporting CFC is spending money on tickets, merchandise etc ….and going to games supporting the team …all of which I do
What significance does a comment on a blog by a faceless individual have to the support of the team ?
FFM I did enjoy my walk thanks. ok you are right I didn’t supply any numbers and my estimate will be about as far away as yours. The idea that Celtic are out to screw you and the support just doesn’t sit well with me when we are living in what you would think are very good times for Celtic. Huns gone in our lifetime and the successor club doing a great job of keeping us amused. Neill Lennon winning SPL flags in succession and hitting above our weight in Europe with a last 16 and respect from the Euro elite clubs. Of course I would have been happier if we had kept Wanyama, Hooper and Kelvin W, wouldn’t make us Real Madrid but would have given us hopes for another successful CL group stage. These guys wanted to go mate. The players own choices. The clubs scouts will still be after the first few players on the list. Maybe getting to the CL will be the decider when it comes to players wanting to move to Glasgow. Can’t be many players first choice destination or SPHell league can it . We can only hope that more that come are like Sammy and Stillian and become fans. End of the day you want to have a moan at anything its up to you mate, I will do the same. I am looking forward to another great season for Celtic.
….and they go…to be replaced by someone else making the exact same comments two hours from now.
Never, ever a discussion to be had.
FFM – txt Mack83 £? to 70070 – God bless Oscar & Mackenzie
05:25 on
17 August, 2013
Neil Lennon & McCartney YNWA Oscar Knox
You think you’ve got in tough in Asia???
No, life here is a beech :~)
HH
Tough times
Players wanting to leave
Players you bring in might be rubbish
Players not wanting to play
We’ll end up liquidated like Oldco
And the list goes on …conditioning for the masses
Read about the things that happen throughout the world
Don’t be believe in everything you see or hear
The neighbours talk day in day out about the goings on
They tell us what they want – they don’t give an inch
Look at the pictures taken by the cameras they cannot lie
The truth is in what you see – not what you read
Little men tapping things out – points of view
Remember their views are not the gospel truth
Don’t believe it all
Find out for yourself
Check before you spread
News of the world
Never doubt
Never ask
Never moan
Never search
Never find
Never know
Each morning our key to the world comes through the door
More than often its just a comic, not much more
Don’t take it too serious – not many do
Read between the lines and you’ll find the truth
Read all about it, read all about it – news of the world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAXeUKPwBj4
Tauranga
FFS, here we go.
“screw you” – didn’t say that.
“Huns gone in our lifetime” – aye, ok then.
“These guys wanted to go mate. The players own choices” – how do you know? Did they all tell you that personally?
“The clubs scouts will still be after the first few players on the list.” – eh? was their a policy to go after the 2nd on the list??
“We can only hope that more that come are like Sammy and Stillian and become fans” – is that the financial strategy you’re defending?
“End of the day you want to have a moan at anything its up to you mate, I will do the same. I am looking forward to another great season for Celtic.” – you think I’m on to have a moan? You are completely missing the point. And moronic behaviour like that is actually detrimental to the welfare of this club that our grandparents fought for. You “devalue” it in my opinion.
But then, this strife was predicted 2 years ago by Paul. I’m not on any side – but you are. And it’s affecting your ability to think objectively. That’s me being kind.
Neil Lennon & McCartney
:))) Very good. I take that one on the grin :)
PFayr
Good times
Players who want to stay with the Hoops
New players wanting to make an impact , excited about being part of thr Celtic dream
Players not wanting to play for Liverpool or Spurs need not apply
Our custodians like Fergus McCann will not return to the days where we were almost history like thems.
Hail Hail the Celts are here.
The World is Green and Whyte
Glass have full
the list does go on. I am sure there are plenty who are lucky enough to take their seats and Stand up for the Champions at Celtic Park who would agree with me .
Happy to be a masses
Hail Hail
FFM
Your current position re all things CFC is quite concerning
I am a pessimist by nature and have never been a Desmondo ,PL fan ..
I recall being pulled up by you a few times on my comments
Your change in attitude , is replicated thro the support is very concerning
FFS,
It’s an emotional week for us all, and others more than us.
But I feckin love ye all, ya muppets. Aye, even you Tauranga :))
Glug glug. Hic!
Now be good when I crash out on the keyboard and the laptop posts random letters, ye hear!
Question the Board !
Tauranga
I think you missed my point … Entirely
Off oot to walk the dogs ….
PF,
For me it started 2 years ago re the GB. Once the blinker is removed, everything else makes more sense.
Not helped by the inevitable swagger a group of men develop the more they get away with things.
My ideal vision – get them all to feck, and get fholk in that understand the club the way we do. Balance charity with CL money and player investment. We are one of the few clubs who could actually make that work and lead the way.
Of course, meeja would be definite hurdle. But only once. They’re on their way out. We have the intelligence in us to lead this.
Any thoughts I’ve just mentioned came purely from other posters here.
What I mean is, if we did that and succeeded, my name should be in the History, but if not, then it was all Canamalar’s fault.
FFM thanks for being kind . I don’t think either of us have provided anything more than an opinion. ok with me.
NEIL LENNON insists that he is on the verge of signing the new Gary Hooper.
SunSport revealed exclusively on Friday that Celtic boss Lenny wants Finnish striker Teemu Pukki.
Schalke have already rejected one Hoops bid for Pukki, 23 but Lennon, believes the Finn can replace Norwich hitman Hooper.
Lennon said: “We have put a bid in. Schalke have said they are not willing to sell but these are the barriers you come up against now and again.
“We are working very hard to bring players in.
“We do like Pukki and we think he is a very intelligent player who can make us better. We are still negotiating.
“He is similar to Hooper. He’s got that stocky build. He is maybe not as physical as Gary, but his movement is excellent, as is his first touch. Pukki is a good finisher. I think he will suit our style of play.”
Flesh Lennon watched Pukki play in Finland’s 2-0 win over Slovenia in midweek.
Visa issues mean even if Pukki signed before Monday’s Champions League deadline, there would be no chance he’d play in Kazakhstan.
Lennon added: “I’ve seen him in the flesh now a couple of times.
“Pukki’s an impressive player, but he is not getting much football at Schalke which might work in our benefit.
“He is a team player. A lot of things Finland did went through him. He created a few decent opportunities for himself and this is international level we are talking about. He came out of it pretty impressively. We are basically looking at the second leg of the Champions League for Pukki if we got him.”
Pukki was not even named as a sub for Schalke’s 3-3 draw with Hamburg last Sunday.
Finnish national boss Mixu Paatelainen wants him to get regular first team football soon.
Future Paatelainen said: “Of course, it’s important our players play for their club. I know Teemu is also concerned about this fact.
“I don’t know what is happening with regards to his future. It is not for me to decide but Teemu is very important to us. Let’s hope that he can get back playing.”
SunSport revealed on Wednesday the Hoops had booted out interest from Benfica in Fraser Forster.
The Portuguese giants were ready to offer £5m. Lennon said: “I don’t know if Benfica are trying to unsettle Fraser but he is not for sale. There is no way I’d let him go.”
Big Picture / Wee Picture?
Wee Oscar and his family are dealing with a personal narrative too many deal with, but less truly understand…because they have never had to endure that journey. It is heartbreaking.
I have just trawled through the last 48 hours of CQN and it would suggest that a community is fractured /divided/ frustrated.
This site started off as a wee insight into the finances / political economy of Celtic and other Scottish Fitba clubs….. And has evolved into something larger. Now some may say… Great. others may be like me. Me? I miss the clear cut CQN of old. But it’s success has led to friendships blossoming and good causes championed… But it shows us something else in these, irrefutably, turbulent times…
Division. As so it should be. The Internet has brought motivated bright minds focussing on what is a matter of importance and identity, in a time when increasingly, unimportance, irrelevant celebrity and consumption is more lauded. Any right thinking Tim who does not see how the Corporate World challenges them and their family is delusional… In my humble opinion. For a simple reason…
The Tims They Are A Changing…..
And that is a Moral Certainty.
So….
Challenge the PLC
Challenge the SFA
Challenge the MSM.
And FFS Challenge Ourselves…
The thing that perpetually blows my mind is how Tims see Lazy Journalism so clearly in the Sports media, but ignore it elsewhere while it shapes and emasculates their lives. We should not be laughing or ridiculing Chic Young and Jeremy Paxman, We should be raging with them and holding these Big or wee court jesters to serious account.
Let me be blunt:
Bankers and their media are Scum.
And they own everyone of us… In business, in our homes…and now, even in our heritage. Now, I might be MaggieMcGillesque (God Bless Her) in saying this…
But….
Thatchers Children are growing more relevant and pertinent….. They are Zombiesque….thatchers Children…. And it is contagious…
It’s just the way things are….
Wake up or be prepared to be challenged…. Because in these PLC times we will all eventually be challenged.
Roll On Oscar and the Fight.
The funny thing is, the only explanation I could reason with in my mind re the attack on the GB is that they posed a threat to the Celtic Board – a unified group of supporters growing in strength.
So this is how out of touch with who we are.
They do a stasi on them.
Fools. Now it can only go the other way, and the club is at risk because of them.
Yet some here call them financial experts?!?
PFayr missed you point , maybes ayes. And I am sure that I would enjoy a pint with your good self and FFM if I was lucky enough to get home anytime soon. What are you lot doing up at this time of the night anyway : ) Hail Hail bhoys thanks for the chat hope we are all still friends.
PFayr…and others who have taken umbrage….
There was some indignation today about the treatment of Fergus. Not only by the media (Saddam comments) and some supporters who booed him.
And yet, today’s generation treat Peter Lawell exactly the same.
You really think he is incompetent? Who do you propose should take his place? Will they do better?
Do you really think his real objective is to ‘line his own pockets’?
The reality may very well be that Celtic are a big club, operating in a small environment, next door to a league that pays its LAST placed team over 60 million pounds.
The reality may be that there are very few footballers who would play for us, if they thought they could make more money playing for some small club in a lucrative league in the same (legally speaking) country speaking the same language.
Peter Lawell will, someday, be somewhere else. As is Fergus McCann. And Gordon Strachan.
There are some on here who will be glad of that. Regardless of the consequences.
Celtic have done remarkably well, despite the incredibly difficult circumstances in which they find themselves. In large part, due to individuals whose jobs are poorly understood by thise who vilify them.
For the record, I thgink we could improve on several fronts. We could do a lot better at bringing 18 year olds with potential into the world of decent 21 year olds.
I think, notwithstanding some great successes, that we could still improve on the recruitment front.
I think that we could defend (and attack) corners better. And throw ins.
And yet, there is so much good about our club, our players, our coaches, and our ‘suits’.
But, keyboards and anonymity is a potent mix………
FFM I am sure we are in full agreement about the GB. They are a big part of what makes Celtic Park homes games jump. My opinion, I believe that Celtic have a gun at their heads with this one, watch how it pans out. It will be connected to H & S checks on IPox. The GB will spread the beat around the stadium for a while before they get a place they can call home. Good things take time.
Morning champions
Oh how that has a hollow ring after reading back ….
I agree with pf that this forum is set up for discussion. .. not by my manager who thinks discussion is him nodding his head for a few seconds while I try to put my learned point across.. then butting in with ” yeah but no : do it my way”
And yes ..hes a zombie.. and funnily enough hes no really into fitba these days
Anyhoo … today we have a big game… against a resurgent aberdeen at pittodrie.
Lets make some blooming noise FOR the bhoys … and pray for Oscar and Mckenzie
Tauranga
I hope the gb bhoy with the drum isnt relocated to the seat behind me ;)
A Celtic PLC Walk On…?
Sorry if offended…
Voltaire CSC
PJBhoy 06:12
I think that was an excellent post.
I think some fholk need to realise we’re fighting for the soul of the club against the gravitational pull of heartless capitalism.
The irony being, that those that have been labelled mineshafters have raised the issue of directing CFC profit at charity; they (whoever they are) never demanded 100% fund directed at players, but have always been portrayed here as being radio rental.
Of course we will always have the issue of hun rescue here.
So surely we can find another 11 clubs in Europe to lead the way with us. The Charity League. Barca can join 10 years down the line when said league becomes a rival with corrupt UEFA. In the meantime, let the rest of them rot. The bulk of Europe would follow such a league with our own TV setup. The other continents would follow.
Now would the money men in charge of football clubs, including Celtic, do so? Well, we have to ask them why not. Did we at least try?
Tauranga @ 06:10
Don’t take the strop with me amigo! Debate is healthy, is it not?? Come on mhan, liven up, get with it….bet you a pint I’m right.
twists n turns.
You have mail.
Aberdeen will be without Barry Robson for the visit of his former club Celtic after the midfielder underwent exploratory knee surgery.
Russell Anderson is fit despite a recent hip knock but Chris Clark and Andrew Considine remain out.
Celtic have doubts of over captain Scott Brown as well as Efe Ambrose, Amido Balde, James Forrest, Mikael Lustig, Tomas Rogic and Anthony Stokes.
Dutch duo Derk Boerrigter and Virgil van Dijk remain out.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23644812
Oldtim
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weeron @ 06:18
1st point: comparing Fergus with PL a big fail right away.
2nd point: referring to the discussion about Fergus being booed to re-enforce the first failed point – a tabloid tactic amigo – come on.
3rd point : who said PL was incompetent??
4th point: who should take his place? Another ridiculous circular argument reliant on the previous one. How about we use PL’s skills to obtain a different objective?
5th point: “line his own pockets” – who said that tonight?
6th point: “There are some on here who will be glad of that” – your opinion on fellow Celtic Supporters. You don’t value the opinion of us all, that’s your issue. You should accept it if you’re in the minority
7th point: the 2nd half of your post is optimistic opinion, which you conclude with “But, keyboards and anonymity is a potent mix” I agree.
Nlm
Injury doubts… thats a full team listed there. ;)
PJBhoy
You sound like me… im always ranting about the children of thatcher / thatchers spawn.
Tauranga @ 06:19
Appreciate that point, and I know where your coming from….but….your ignoring the other issues. That the GB are being harassed by the rozzers, and believe the PLC are in collusion; also, you think it will all work out okay in the end.
I’m asking you to rethink the above amigo.
TBJ
The good news is that Commons & Samaras will play
3-1 to The Bhoys then!
HH
FFM I’ll match the pint and up the anti to a Whiskey, single malt of blend fine. I was on the Thatcher scrap heap. I left my home because there was no work , no way forward. The witch is dead and her legacy lives on, sadly with the mandate of the British public. The banks destroy more jobs and get double bonuses. Corporate corruption is rife, the public humiliation that is The Rangers International or whatever seconds are know as now is great evidence. Sure it can happen at Celtic Park, of course we should question it. Not every company is corrupt. capatalism sucks but it is no worse that many other systems that have tried and failed or are operating in other parts of the World. Point for me is that the Celtic PLC have played a very good game off the park. In my opinion and I know that many disagree I think that the PLC are defending our club in the way that they can do best and protecting our hard fought history. The Celtic PLC are Celtic men like us. If Celtic PLC failed to produce annual reports , like the oldco, or use dubious ways of financing, associated with drug dealers, money launderers or wanted criminals I would be standing with you on this FFM. We are winning. Times and tims are good. On the park and off we are successful and future opportunities to get out of SPHELL and the corruption we know for fact will happen…in my lifetime.
ffm – txt mack83 £? to 70070 – god bless oscar & mackenzie
06:24 on 17 August, 2013
Cheers for acknowledging my slightly inebriated rant. But I will tell you what… Your response has given me plenty food for thought…As it should others… Over the last week, watching the SFA/SMSM /SPL/SEVCO meltdown I have been hearing in my head the illogical phrase of queens Park many years ago… In a Bob Crampsey voice…. SOS… Keep it amateur.
Your post got me thinking and smiling..
HH
Is this any “indication that he enjoys any pre-eminence over others strikers being considered.”…………..?
‘He’s a good finisher. I think he’ll suit our style of play. I’ve seen him in the flesh now a couple of times. He’s an impressive player but he’s not getting much football at Schalke, which might work in our benefit.
‘I saw just how good his touch is — and what a team player he is. A lot of things Finland did in midweek (in a 2-0 win against Slovenia) went through him.
‘He created a couple of decent opportunities for himself. And this is international football, not club level.
‘He came out of it pretty impressively.”
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