My thought on looking at our potential opponents this morning was ‘Anywhere but Warsaw’. Our man Zbyszek tells me Legia were awful in the first leg in Warsaw against St Pat’s, where they drew 1-1 courtesy of a late goal, but we’ve been there. Henrik Larsson & Co. drew 0-0 against St Pat’s at Celtic Park before winning 0-2 in the return leg. St Patrick’s have a big job ahead if they are to progress.
A trip to Ireland on Champions League qualification duty for the second year running would suit Celtic, especially our Irish-based supporters, but my money is on a more testing trip to Poland; Ronny’s pulse should have quickened on the news.
Zbyszek doesn’t reckon have what it takes to eliminate Celtic. All being equal, that may be the case, but summer football will be unpredictable for both clubs.
I am, of course, being completely disrespectful to KR Reykjavik, who we annihilate next week.
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NegAnon2
I’ve got a suggestion for you, if you don’t mind ? It’ll save you time and some brain power re-jigging the same stuff.
Just Copy and Paste your latest, tired and weary message, and regurgitate it daily.
It mystifies me why you bother writing different formats of the same jaundiced diatribe over and over again.
DDWTHID
http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/news/home-news/licensing-board-uses-power-to-shut-down-notorious-pub.24794636?utm_source=headlines&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=email%252Balert
Seems the Foggy wasted the paint.
Winning Captains
Reading your words fills me with concerns and sorrow. I increasingly see monikers pop up that I haven’t seen for a while only to read that they’ve popped in, been unimpressed/disgusted/etc by what they’ve seen and the disappear off again.
And I consider myself pretty recent on here so I’ll only notice a small part of what’s going on.
Some offensive stuff is pretty clear cut to me and I would support it bring acted on. But I recognise that’s only my view. Others may differ. Paul may differ and ultimately it’s his creation I believe.
An (even) bigger challenge is what you might call the borderline stuff. The constant contrariness with a wee dash of political/racial/religious ‘spice’ thrown in as a barb. No clear case for binning them – and they’ll claim them as legitimate views and rightly highlight CFC to be a broad church. But they can at times create a backdrop the many would want scroll past or log out to avoid.
What to do?
For the former group. More clear cut but still pretty difficult.
For the latter, more difficult still.
For the most part maybe all/the best thing is as HT suggested earlier and others frequently do – be sure that the good ghuys n ghals on here (re)claim CQN as the best place for real Celtic fans to hing oot online.
HH jamesgang
RIP Bob Torrance, a Scottish sporting genius.
Off oot to play the Carnoustie man’s course in the pishing rain with my hun brother in law.
Any sign of a hun victory will be met with a swift 5 iron roon his noggin.
The strength of CQN has always been the wide range of topics and discussions that it hosts.
On what other football site do you also see people post obscure questions seeking information about a city or country, or looking for an obscure part, or help with a problem with an electrical device – and get a variety of helpful responses within seconds? What other site discusses books and music, the weather and the golf, politics and sausage recipes?
The issues that have arisen over the years are the same as they have always been – and that didn’t change during the period we had mods. The vast majority of regular posters have always prepared to state their case, deal with discussions reasonably and try to persuade, or agree to disagree.
The problem always comes with the few who break the language rule – just about the only CQN rule there is – or resort to personal attacks and abuse when their arguments fail. There have been a few posters who have caused issues, some racist posts, some repeat offenders. But there are very much the minority.
And what the trolls want is a response. Starve them of the replies and they will get bored. They will go elsewhere.
I would say to anyone thinking about leaving the site – think again. The vast majority here are good, decent posters. If we all stay and discuss, debate and converse then the others will leave.
skyisalandfill
00:05 on
19 July, 2014
Hirvatski Jim
My ticket is also up for grabs as I can’t make it on Tuesday.
Anyone wants it, it’s yours.
HH
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Thanks so much for the kind offer. Wefrathetim had already confirmed that my son could get his ticket so i am following up with him.
Best regards
Hrvatski Jim
Hamiltontim and Can I, I had seen a bit in the Times the other night about its licence being withdrawn as it had a Maggie Thatcher dying party but I didn’t realise it was immediate.
I passed Bar 67 on Thursday and there were no flags out. Some of the shops on London Road at the Barras have been done up so I’m unsure if the Council have told them to do so or have been given grants to get it done.
HamiltonTim, you mentioned last night about remembering games from the eighties & nineties more clearly than games last season.
I’m in that club. I remember more of games from1976 to the Centenary season than those in in the last twenty years despite most being available on Youtube.
I think we had less responsibility pre family, mortgage & work then and possibly that’s why games stuck more in our mind.
If Celtic receive an offer for a player which exceeds what they think that player is worth, then they accept it. When the player then discusses financial terms with that club he finds that the wages on offer are maybe 3 times what he has at Celtic. Even if we wanted the player to stay we would have to match or beat the wage offered. It’s not just down to Celtic if he stays or goes. Southampton accepted offers for their players, Atletico Madrid over the last 2 seasons, Porto continually sell their best players, so do Ajax, and did Liverpool not just sell their best player. It’s the way football operates that’s to blame not Celtic PLC. Had the Lisbon Lions won the Champions League last year, how many of those players would still have been at Celtic this season por cierto.
Anyone off the blog going to the Gaza demo in Buchaan Street today at 1pm?
A CEILER GONOF RUST
Take yer phone wi the Zadok ringtone.
And your spare phone,or one belonging to the missus.
As he’s about to tee off,call yourself on the phone.
21st Century ‘Gotcha!’
Any bhoys going to game tday. Enjoy. My old town for 5 years :)
ACGR
Never liked the notion of playing golf cos a) I had no skill b) it was a non contact sport.
Seems ACGR golf offers me at least one aspect of sport that I like!
Whack him with your scorecard, not your club! Zombie blood corrodes golf clubs!
HH jamesgang
macjay1 for neil lennon
09:20 on 19 July, 2014
Fess19
07:22 on
19 July, 2014
macjay1 for Neil Lennon
Charles Patrick Tully, remember reading in one of the evening papers.
“How do you know Celtics winning at Aberdeen?”
“Tullyvision”
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“Times and Citizeeeeen.”
Saturday night.
The wee fat guy diagonally opposite Boots corner.
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Cheweeng gum, Macaroon baaars!
Lions roar I am aware that I have posted political stuff and indeed about the Indy debate. Two things here. One was that billy bhoy05 is a cyber Nat and came on here to do exactly the stuff that many are bemoaning. My response was largely to his propaganda. The second thing is that I think it’s legitimate for CQN to debate independence but not ad neuseum and so I have refrained from any other posts on t.he subject.
Big cup winners however. Given this is a celtic site which was founded on the strategy, financial and otherwise, of the club I will continue to convey my firmly held belief about what the board is doing. I beleieve that is bourn out by what is unfolding before our eyes. That’s just being consistent not regurgitating. I could say the same thing about happy clappers…..
Why have they changed the format at the golf today. Players going out in threes and a staggered start with some beginning their rounds at the 10th?
Is it weather related or has too many qualified for the usual 3rd round set up of going out in pairs?
Errra chewing gum, crisps and macaroooon bars….
GARY67
I read an article overnight about it,it seems to be VERY weather-related!
I’ll track it down for you,wi any luck.
Sydney, I hope you and the family are well.
The Dresden CSC have been posting details of their plans for today and it sounds like a great day out for all going.
My son and I are going to the under twenty’s game today but would rather be in Dresden. My boy is desparate to get to a game in Germany especially at the Westfalen. I know it has been branded but its still the Westfalen to me.
Passed the Uni beer bar yesterday. It brought back memories of the games I went to as a guest on the Uni bus and you having to endure being sat beside me all the way to Amsterdam and back lol.
When its spring again we’ll sing again, two one in Amsterdam.
Can I Have Raspberry On That Champions League Ice Cream
10:36 on 19 July, 2014
That’s behind a paywall – what does it say ?
A new guy started in my work this week.
He’s from Fatima in Portugal. Told me he was on the receiving end of some vile abuse from the bigots in Rawlplug Thornliebank. I copped it myself as a young apprentice in the early 70s, but the stories this guy told were worse.
He’s a Roman Catholic Sporting Lisbon fan and that was enough for the knuckledraggers to give him two years of hell.
So thats the full set of nine RC’s in my place, every one a victim of sectarian abuse and discrimination in Engineering firms during the 70s and 80s, ranging from name calling to exclusion from promotion.
Some of you will have work in these places…Weirs, Rolls Royce (Hillington and EK) Barr & Strouds, Templetons, Rawlplug.
Gary67
It’s from The Telegraph.
Indeed, it is and on Saturday we could witness links golf in all its brutality.
There are severe thunderstorms forecast and because of that for the first time in Open history the R&A is employing a two-tee start with the groups in threeballs. The field will start at 9am and there is every chance there will be delays and that the pros will have to play in dreadful scenes.
This could be the biggest challenge to McIlroy, but on this evidence he will be up to the task. “I feel I’m ready for whatever the conditions are,” McIlroy said. Freaky Friday is over; Stormy Saturday awaits.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/golf/theopen/10977388/The-Open-2014-Rory-McIlroy-puts-in-majestic-display-to-race-clear-and-banish-memories-of-recent-Freaky-Fridays.html
Gordon_j@10.44
Well said!
Gary67
10:54 on 19 July, 2014
Amber weather warning
CHARLES KICKHAM
The Foggy Dew was closed at an emergency hearing of the city’s licensing board.
Police Scotland asked licensing chiefs to review the licence after alleged “serious violence” and “sectarian, religious prejudice behaviour” within the premises.
Officers claimed the London Road bar should be closed after a string of incidents, including an alleged serious assault at the weekend.
The licensing board heard how police said there was a “lack of co-operation from management and licence holder” at the East End pub.
Chief Inspector Hilary Sloan said: “The management has completely failed to engage with us and that’s a big issue for us. We can’t predict what may happen in future. But there’s a likelihood that there will be further disorder as they have not taken on board any of the recommendations made by us.”
She asked for the closure order to be imposed for “sufficient time” for Police Scotland to return to the board for a review hearing of the premises.
It is the first time that closure order powers, within the licensing legislation, have been used in Glasgow Granting the order, Councillor Bill Butler said: “The board is satisfied that a closure order is necessary to prevent crime and disorder and secure public safety.”
The pub was named after a famous Irish ballad and was popular with both locals and city visitors. However, the bar caused controversy when it held a party to ”celebrate” the death of former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.
Police launched an investigation into the event after footage appeared on the internet.
Archie McIver, the solicitor appearing for the licence holder, East End Catering, told the board he had been instructed not to oppose any motion by the police.
The Foggy Dew’s designated premises manager, Lloyd Ingram, did not attend the hearing and no-one appeared on his behalf.
What doesn’t kill the blog makes it stronger and I do not believe the blog has ever been stronger, IMO when companies and political activists place agents on this site to drive their agenda it shows how powerful they think this blog is and that is a sign of the strength of the blog. I say let it happen, the blog always seems to bounce back from the destructive influences who are trying to sabotage, they’ve been trying for years and always ended up being sore losers.
Yep sometimes it gets tiresome but that’s the price we pay for being open to all, if the blog ever becomes exclusive then they have won.
Just quickly.
gordon_j backing neil lennon
I think the language rule is the least of our worries in CQN these days my friend.
EddieinKirkmichael
I’d have been going but unfortunately I have a wedding to attend.
Dallas Dallas
I’m not sure if it’s the YouTube thing as I rarely watch old Celtic clips on there, or anywhere really.
I do agree that possibly it’s more to do with the lack of other life pressures in those days.
Oh that and old age and alcohol :-)
Dallas Dallas
Lol yeah memory shot to bits -the Charlie shot at the Broomland rd – and the we dance in front if us at the Main stand enclosure –
Forgot 4-2 at Ipox was pens -remember the walk on at HT asbestos I mean as best ever ;-)
All going well here – pop in for a 99 anytime.
Enjoy today cuz
BMCUW.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
11:03 on 19 July, 2014
Cheers
bobby murdoch’s curled-up winklepickers
Cheers. Was looking on BBC website but doesn’t specifically say why this is happening, just lots of ‘traditionalists’ are complaining about it.
WC
It’s going to be pishing down on ole EK today, but fear not, K Park’s (small) stand is covered, and the walk from the car park to the turnstyle is all of 20 meters. I’ll look out for you and other CQNers.
Neganon
Good to see (read) you back. Hope you enjoyed yourself. I remember a great holiday at Polzeath a few years ago. The boy surfed for 10 hours each day irrespective of the weather. I read books and drank cider. A fine time both.
There’s no direct comparison with Celtic in my Atletico post beyond the superficial. The point – if there is any – is that there are numerous valid business models in football, validity being determined by what is appropriate for the circumstances of each individual club.
Atleti was a basket case, close to going under a few years ago. Their income is modest in European terms, and their legacy financial problems mountainous.
They’ve developed their model based on what’s possible and what’s required, within a framework of what’s sustainable. Fair play to them, but it means every year they sell their best players at a significant financial gain, and start again the following season.
Celtic’s approach is different insofar as we are now in control of our business. Our problem is the manifest constraints in growing. We are where we are, pushed up against the glass ceiling, looking at the arses of the teams on the other side of the glass.
While I share your frustration, I don’t have your trip hammer response to immediacy. We are neither upsizing not downsizing. We are treading water, carefully perhaps, but essentially running on a development cycle that focusses on player within a framework of predictable finance.
It has been remarkably successful over the past 4 years, both football success and profit, to the point where we have surplus cash counted in 8 digits, and a decent European team led by a young manager with some new ideas.
We are in this position because of the approach to players, not despite it.
It’s not going to change anytime soon, simply, because it works. Most of the time.
In terms of ‘Rangers’, I wholly disagree with you. While competition in the league is to be welcomed, they won’t provide it any time soon. They don’t have the wherewithal, and they won’t self-generate it. It would take a transformation in their income and approach for them to get near us in the next 5 years, and Premiership ticket sales and TV money isn’t transformational, not even for Hamilton Accies.
They have no money, no youth development to speak of, no talent in their aging squad, a crumbling stadium and no where to go. Someone pumps in £30M to spend on players? Great, it’s gone in a season and leaves a huge legacy problem.
Celtic are not ‘waiting’ for “Rangers’ return”. Any sensible analysis would confirm the likelihood of Godot’s return before “Rangers” as we knew it. Even what we knew was a charade built on duplicity and dodgy tax deals. Sevco will be competing with Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, Motherwell for the European places, if they get their act together.
For Celtic, a Rangers team in the top league will shift a few more tickets, sell a few more Sky subscriptions, but beyond that, will not benefit or threaten us significantly. It is materially irrelevant over the coming 5 years. Beyond that? Who knows. It takes time to build a successful business and a successful football club. A long time.
charles kickham
Thanks
MARRAKESH EXPRESS
Some welcome to Scotland,eh?
Maybe we should name and shame these companies,maybe boycott them.
I for one have cancelled my RR engines in my next jet,and will order GEC.
Well,everyone believed Minty when he said he had a private jet,so I thought I’d have a go too!
Ps Saltires, good to see you back posting.
I read the herald article on the foggy dew pub. I have never been to that bar but is it true that we have now seen the police use their powers to shut down two celtic bars now (Bairds being the other). I find this new found concern by the police interesting. I could recount countless tales of violence perpetrated against celtic supporters in pubs or outside them around Bridgetown or at the loudness tavern. I can remember the police standing by watching that violence and doing nothing. Indeed it took the death of a young celtic fan in Bridgetown before the police even paid attention.
Another example of sectarian Scotland in action?????
On this day that we are playing in Dresden, sad reports of a serious bus crash:
Nine dead and 40 hurt as three vehicles involved in accident on autobahn near Dresden
Nine people were killed and 40 injured when several buses crashed on a German motorway near the eastern city of Dresden.
The crash, which occured about 2 am local time on Saturday, involved a Polish coach and minibus and a Ukrainian coach, according to police spokesman Lutz Zoellner. He was unable to provide details about the victims.
The German public broadcaster MDR reported that seven of those killed were traveling in the minibus.
Citing a preliminary police report, MDR said the Polish coach hit the rear of the Ukrainian coach and then broke through the median barrier, crashing into the oncoming minibus.
NegAnon2
You accuse BillyBhoy05 of being a Cybernat and being on CQN for propaganda purposes.
What is your reason for promotion of your firmly held belief appearing
ad neuseum on CQN ?
zbyszek.
you have mail.
WC,
While it has happened regularly in the past that CQNers have complained that CQN was not what it used to be (for me, when I lived in England THE source of information about Celtic), I agree that it has plumbed new depths of late. I mostly scroll past too many contributions now, because they don’t debate but simply attack those who don’t share their agenda.
CQN is the reason I don’t look at even the Herald to get news of Celtic. I hope it continues. Paul67, as you say, is a fine mhan, who has created what can be (and is much of the time) the best Celtic site bar none.
I hope your contribution this morning serves as a wake up call, especially to the lurkers.