It doesn’t really matter to me how other people write their own history. If Queens Park claim to be the same Club as the Queen of Clubs, they are welcome to, as long as they respectfully allow me to express scepticism. Fortunately, Queens Park’s business model is not dependent on making such an outlandish claim.
A whole lot of nonsense has been written on the subject of a recently liquidated football club, “it was the holding company that was liquidated”, when it wasn’t actually a holding company, and then we have claims about advice from a “panel of the London Stock Exchange”, which was quickly withdrawn.
We are asked to believe that a football club cannot go out of business. It’s an interesting thought, not one I subscribe to, but interesting nonetheless. If you are happy with this belief, fair play to you, it doesn’t matter what anyone else believes.
I’ve met Jim Spence. He’s a guy who emerged from the Dundee Untied fanzine world and established a reputable career in the game. His affinity for United has never been hidden, nor should it be. United, as all clubs, have gone through periods of turmoil but Jim has called things as he has seen them, with his own club, and with others.
This week Jim made a comment about a football club which went into liquidation. It was more tempered than comments made by a former manager and director of the liquidated club, by the chief executive of its successor club, by all the contemporary newspaper coverage, and by the successor club’s current head of PR. Despite this, Jim has been on the receiving end of a sustained campaign by the thought police.
Jim may privately think what those at the successor club once said, but if he also wants to express those thoughts, the consequences can be acute.
He’s not alone. I know others in the media who have told me straight that they are not prepared to touch the Newco/Sameco subject, the resultant hassle is not what they got into journalism for.
Charlotte Fakes has given us a glimpse into how powerful people can manipulate and control Scotland. It has given reason to pause ahead of next year’s big decisions. The BBC and only the BBC are strong enough to stand up against bullying, you can forget the commercial media for one simple reason, this subject is the equivalent of commercial self-harm.
It wouldn’t seem like the weekend without Rangers International writing about going legal on someone or other, although I suspect they’ll be content having played to the gallery with this one and not trouble the BBC, but questions remain for the BBC, no matter what happens next.
I consume enormous volumes of BBC output every month, it is my first port of call for news, and often my last. It is one of the best aspects of British life, but if it can be intimidated like the commercial media, there is no point in it existing in the first place.
Fortify your journalists or shut the doors.
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RIP Miki67
Sad day to lose a brother in Celtic.
Miki RIP
Is it true CharlotteFakes is Craig Whyte?
My daughter was just reminding me of the former players who will be there tomorrow. Some great names and really looking forward to it.
She laughed when I told her that Bobo was having problems with PL over his contract and Bobo came back with “I’m the CEO of Bobo Balde”, absolutely classic.
Larrybhoy
My condolences to you and your family at the loss of your brother.
RIP Miki67
margaret mcgill
19:23 on 7 September, 2013
Is it true CharlotteFakes is Craig Whyte?
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Used to think it was him or a proxy but am coming round to the view it is Jack Irvine.
I’ve read numerous very moving tributes to Miki 67, a man I didn’t know. Sounds like he was a wonderful man and much loved.
Oscar Knox is my Hero – RWE @ 16:22
PL is SFA now.
larsson80 @ 17:00
Agreed.
leftclicktic oscar in our thoughts @ 17:19
Would love to see that happen but I don’t see or hear fans having the appetite for that. Apathy won. We can’t serious claim for the ‘sport’ to be a fair and equal competition therefore it’s just entertainment.
Margaret McGill @ 19:23
No.
Just read back and heard about Miki – may his soul rest in peace. Another good Celtic man away to Paradise.
Miki67
Just logged on, Larrybhoy really sorry to hear the news of your brother, always remember the good times and the great times, thoughts and prayers, the celtic family have lost one of the best.
big nan
19:26 on 7 September, 2013
margaret mcgill
19:23 on 7 September, 2013
Is it true CharlotteFakes is Craig Whyte?
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Used to think it was him or a proxy but am coming round to the view it is Jack Irvine.
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More likely to be from the Green camp I think. Emergence and disappearance all timed to CG’s perfection.
Rest in Peace Miki67.
We are that much poorer on here for your passing.
Craig Whyte never came across as smart enough to operate a PC, a tape recorder, but not a PC.
RIP Miki – as a lurker one of the few on here you stopped to read
Whoever CF was he/she was based outside the UK. Not sure of motivation but doubt it helped any of the parties in the revelations.
Miki67, Rest in peace.
Auldheid
How do you know CF is not in the UK?
any recordings CF put online had CW as voice nearest the Mic – go figure
Larrybhoy
Condolences to you and your family, enjoyed Miki67’s posts and his upbeat outlook on life in general. Will say a prayer at mass tomorrow.
HH
“As journalists we have to separate what is interesting and what is relevant. There has been stuff on Charlotte Fakes that has made me think but has not yet made me act.”
Tom English.
..and why is CF protected by the digerati?
charles kickham @ 19:44
Doesn’t mean he leaked them. CF damaged CW too.
Back on the what the BBC call the football business playing at Ibrox. Rather than say which terms are vorboten – oldco/newco Sevco etc why not come up with two simple terms that no one will argue with?
When their reporters are referring to something that took place prior to liquidation they just say RFCIL until liquidation happens when they say RFCL.
For the business now operating from Ibrox the call it RIFC.
Its a bit 1984ish to remove from the language the ability to make a valid distinction and even the BBC must baulk at that.
So rather than say what is inaccurate why not define what for BBC reporting terms is accurate?
The fact of the matter is the recent history of that club cannot be told without the ability to make the distinction between the club that was liquidated and the club that waded into the pool left behind.
Making the distinction is not an act of vindictiveness it is simply a reflection of events that took place that journalists may have to discuss or write about.
In three years time we will be being told no liquidation took place because there will be no words that can be used without being attacked to describe the event.
So if you want to wind up a Rangers supporter call the old club Sevco etc but if you are a journalist reporting on matters relating to events at Ibrox pre and post liquidation use RFCIL and RIFC to distinguish one from the other.
We went by 1984 twenty nine years ago.
Auldheid
19:55 on 7 September, 2013
Replacement Fixed Capital Investment Losers?
Sad to hear of miki67 passing. Enjoyed his posts. Very sad loss.
Just on for a quick look to see what’s happening today and seen the posts about Miki67 , sad sad news.
Miki67, Rest In Peace .
Tom English is a Bwaabg
larrybhoy
just read the terrible news about miki67, his determination, courage and humour shone through his post’s, you and his family are in my prayers.
R.I.P.
Miki67
Y.N.W.A
Larrybhoy
Deepest sympathy on your sad loss – I hope that all concerned get through this very difficult time as best they can.
Take care and take care of each other
HH
Lorry hoy.
Sorry to hear about your brother miki67, I enjoyed his posts and hearing about his fight.
A strong man who put up a brave fight.
An inspiration to anyone who has to put up with illness.
May he rest in peace and may he regall the saints in heaven with his stories.
May you and his family have fortitude at this sad time. Amen.
larrybhoy sad news on hearing about the passing of your brother Mikki67 he showed great courage and never complained about his illness or the cards he was dealt, he never compromised on hitting his target either my sincere condolences to you and Mikki67’s family
RIP MIKI67,larrybhoy condolences to you & yours my celtic brother,
RIP Miki67
Larrybhoy, deepest condolences.
RIP Miki67
I was working down in England recently (Rugby nutters) and a guy I was working with said “I heard you have different pubs up there”. I said “Well sort of there are tons of Celtic pubs and a few hun pubs that you wouldn’t go near”. He said “How many Celtic pubs are there compared to r*X@%$s”. I said “They don’t have pubs as such they have moronic lodges and orange lodges as they dont like to mingle and like to keep their stench inhouse, which suits me”. He actually asked me what an orange lodge was.
Steinreignedsupreme
18:37 on 7 September, 2013
Forces sauce – that will only lead to more boycotts for places not stocking it.
I wonder when Al-Qaeda are bringing out their salad cream.
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Palomine……Al Qaeda Are WAY-Y-Y Ahead Of You……
But They Thank You For Your Input….
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2003/jan/08/marketingandpr.internationalnews
[PS….It’s Not The REAL THING !….Ed]
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No More Skinny-Dipping ‘Doon The Water’ For Maggie McGill….?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2413055/Are-testicle-biting-fish-headed-BRITAIN-Now-relative-piranha-Paris-River-Seine.html
Sad news indeed. Miki 67…and his family…you are all in my thoughts and prayers.
I did not know him, only his scribblings on here..but I could tell he was a gem. God rest his soul.
This was a wee poem we had for my fathers mass card. I miss him dearly…hope the words bring you peace.
I am free
Don’t grieve for me, for now I’m free,
I’m following paths God made for me
I took his hand I heard him call
Then turned, and bid farewell to all
I could not stay another day
To laugh, to love, to sing, to play
Tasks left undone must stay that way
I found my peace… at close of play
And if my parting left a void
Then fill it with remembered joy
A friendship shared, a laugh, a kiss
Ah yes, these things I too will miss.
Be not burdened… deep with sorrow
I wish you sunshine of tomorrow
My life’s been full I’ve savoured much
Good friends, good times
A loved one’s touch
Perhaps my time seemed all too brief
Don’t lengthen it now with grief
Lift up your hearts and share with me,
God wants me now… He set me free.
Anonymous
If only
RIP Miki67, sad, sad day on CQN.