Billy McNeill and Davie Hay met the press at Celtic Park yesterday, along with Alex Gordon, who authored their time as managers of Celtic. It didn’t disappoint……
Billy was self-effacing as ever. For all purposes, today he is an ordinary Celtic fan, so much so you need to remind yourself that there is nothing in the club game he hasn’t done. Yesterday was about his days as Celtic manager but he made the point that Davie Hay was a profound influence on him as a team-mate.
The take-away thought I had on Davie Hay was about his range of knowledge and experience. He has done so much in the game which still pulses in his veins. Does Scotland still produce men of his calibre? If so, why are we not giving them a platform to flourish?
There is tons of great stuff in the book from both men:
“We were already a goal down nine minutes into the second-half when Johnny Doyle was ordered off. As he came off, I remember telling him he would be in serious trouble if we lost.
“I was furious, especially as we were in such a desperate situation at the time.
“Afterwards in the foyer, Jimmy Johnstone, Bobby Murdoch, Mike Jackson, Paul Wilson, Pat McCluskey, Benny Rooney and a whole host of former players were dancing around in amazement.
“Jinky was as happy as I’ve seen him. That win meant so much to anyone with an affiliation with Celtic.”
– Billy McNeill on winning the league against Rangers in 1979.
“I arranged for someone to cut out the stories and pin them to the walls of our dressing room at Love Street.
“I said nothing, but I could see the players reading the clippings. It was having the desired effect. It’s never clever to dismiss Celtic.
“It’s history now that we won 5-0 and Hearts lost 2-0.
“I think I still owe [Albert Kidd] a pint!”
-Davie Hay on winning the league at Love St in 1986.
The book’s great, reading the step-by-step accounts of what happened from the managers’ view, you’ll love it. I know I’m biased but it’s the best thing CQN has done, a wee bit of our history set down on record.
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Corkcelt@19.51
Delighted to see you are only interested in Celtic winning matches and trophies. Let’s see how many we lose before a ball is kicked or by the honest mistakes given that we don’t challenge the injustices that have been perpetrated on our club.
Act like carpets you give these scumbags licence to walk all over us. Back of the bus time again.
This place reminds of wrestling (due to the hilarious feuds) and a gay night club (due to the copious amounts of catty remarks).
Naturally, I haven’t set foot in a wrestling arena.
Its the level of apparent connivance from the Scottish football authorities to help Sevco out that scunners me.
1. Telfer conveniently named SPFL Young Player of the Month for November just days before the tribunal hearing, thereby making it easier for the tribunal to inflate the player`s value.
Dundee Utd played 4 games in November. Telfer played in 3 of those games, being an unused sub in the other. In one of the games he started he was substituted after 85 minutes. In total he played 265 minutes of football in November, scoring 1 goal v bottom of the table St Mirren. He was part of a team that lost to the hopeless Motherwell side that is dicing with relegation.
Its hardly player of the month material.
2. Tribunal hearing and Sevco windfall finalised hours after the Oldco is formally liquidated. I guess that makes it harder if not impossible for creditors to get their hands on this money.
This is all corrupt. Given Celtic`s presence on the SFA and SPFL boards our club seems quite comfortable with it.
Gearoid, get a grip
Watching the Liverpool game thinking that would be a good and very winnable tie for us.
You want action from Celtic Neganon2 ?
Wits/stairheedrammy
Ya pair a cynics, I had a tear in my eye :-)
Embramike
Just saw that on Twitter, apparently they’ve removed the same club part.
Boom
Scottish football is an embarrassment
Players move from RFC because they are liquidated …yet clubs have to pay a new company for the development of a player whose development was largely at the expense of a liquidated company
Disgrace ..sadly we’re part of this charade
And…that bombast from Sevco ….regardless of its obvious mendacity will go unchallenged
Nevermind ..Rangers will be back ( sic) ….you know that club with the great history according to DD….and we’ll all be happy ….sickening
My @7/2 looking no bad!
gearoid, They did not get away with anything. They got liquidated, started a new life and spent the last 3 years in the wilderness. They are broke and on the verge of going bust again. In the meantime we are enjoying life and racking up Titles. I’m not bothered about them, if they go broke than brilliant, if Ashley or someone else bankrolls them and they survive, I won’t be happy but there is Eff All I can do about it, so I’m not going to worry about something I have no control over. I’ve made my contribution to Winning Captains ad. where we the Celtic Supporters tell the world our point of view. Beyond that we can only stand vigilant together with other Clubs Supporters in case the Football Authorities try something underhand which will have to be resisted.
a ceiler gonof rust
Oh yes it will.
WTF! Arsenal 2 up!
That’s the double oot the windae!
Zombie FC statement:
RANGERS has received today the decision of the SPFL Compensation Tribunal and are content with the fee Dundee United have been ordered to pay for the training and development of Charlie Telfer who was at the Club for a period of 10 years.
The payment awarded, which was significantly higher than Dundee United’s final offer, vindicates the Club’s decision to take the matter to a Compensation Tribunal.
Dundee United introduced a late argument stating Rangers should only be awarded compensation for the training and development of Charlie Telfer for 2 years instead of the 10 years that he was with the Club. They argued the Club in its current form has only existed for two years.
It is disappointing Dundee United tried to pursue this tiresome, legally incorrect and provocative argument given that it has been repeatedly confirmed by the football authorities in Scotland and beyond that administration and liquidation of the companies that owned the Club did not break the continuity of the Club’s history or its record of honours won.
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Keep digging your own hole, worthless Zombie scum.
This next administration 2 penalty will be a ‘dozer. All legal and above board 25-pointer. By your own admission, of course.
embramike
20:03 on
9 December, 2014
Looks like a change to the wording of the Sevco statement ….
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Yip….same as the old one but with the lies removed. I wonder who ‘phoned them?
“[SEVCO] has received today the decision of the SPFL Compensation Tribunal and are content with the fee Dundee United have been ordered to pay for the training and development of Charlie Telfer who was at the Club for a period of 10 years.
The payment awarded, which was significantly higher than Dundee United’s final offer, vindicates the Club’s decision to take the matter to a Compensation Tribunal.”
Common sense from the Corkster tonight.
Why all the angst? Who cares?
Hamiltontim
19:52 on
9 December, 2014
Just came across this story by a Celtic blogger. Defo worth a read.
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awfy braw ….hail hail
Young master Dallas appointed for their QoS fixture on Friday evening.
Everyone needs a helping hand………..
I’d guess that Basel have a smaller budget than us, and look a better team £120m Liverpool.
Basle looking good
themaestro72
20:08 on 9 December, 2014
Was thinking the same ……..
Quite a lot of ‘ Celtic supporters’ on tonight trying to drive a wedge between the club and supporters on here, yawn
Jeez, Liverpool are pish.
Doubled up with Arsenal for a score on at 4/1.
Was worried about Arsenal’s capability until I saw Liverpool tonight and realised Brendan Rodgers is just making it up as he goes along.
BCW
Did you get that link big yin?
Eleven immoral, unethical, valueless, monkeys could run out of the tunnel at Parched and there would be Celtic supporters there to cheer them.
Morals, ethics, values.
Honesty, integrity, faith, hope and charity… or overpaid mercenaries?
My season ticket money goes to charity, what you do with yours is on your conscience.
At least my money will feed the needy not the hubris of the corrupted.
Your choice.
sandman
I went to Anfield recently. They were absolutely awful in the first half and although they scored in the second, Stoke had 5 great chances.
gearoid1998
19:58 on
9 December, 2014
So because we should have expected them to say they are the same team that makes it alright then. Jeez
That statement is about so much more than that. That statement is saying that we cheated you at every opportunity you did nothing about it then and we know you will do nothing about it now. As I said just bend over guys you know what’s coming.
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Saying you expect something is not the same as saying it’s alright.
Were you surprised by their statement then?
Sandman, Liverpool were not particularly great last year, their defence was poor but in sturridge and suarez they had 2 brilliant forwards who won them lots of games, this year they have been playing without those 2. So there ye go
Whether my club comes out and says anything about the tribute act being the same club or not wont stop me going to see Celtic. While I wish they would say something I know they never will and that saddens me.
For all the fallings of our board they will never stop me going to Celtic Park to see my team. As others have stated I wont go to cup games as that endorses support for the governing bodies of our game.
If the tribute act do ever get in to the Premier league then I will have a decision to make on whether or not to attend those games but realistically I know deep down that I will wont to be there supporting my team.
We all know what has gone before and I dare say that in the future we will all be pulling our hair out(Embramike excepted of course ;) ) when the honest mistakes begin to happen again. What can we as ordinary fans do though? I feel powerless in all this and I bet most ordinary fans also feel the same.
I suspect TRFC changed their statement re Telfer after a frantic phone call from their legal/finance advisers saying TRFC would owe HMRC £14M plus if they stood by it.
They are not very bright.
Hamiltontim
Yes I did thanks. Still waiting on a response from my MSP.
Rickie Lambert – not really very good
sandman
I wish I shared your optimism, but I think there is little chance of that happening.
I see the Sevco/SFA story going something along the lines of ‘Rangers went into administration in 2012. The current rules on administration were not adopted until 2013′. the rules will not be applied retrospectively. As such, since these provisions were not in place when Sevco went into administration in 2012, for the purposes of these regulations, only events of administration that occurred after 2013 will be counted.’
(or words to that effect) …. I hope I am wrong, but I would bet my house on the fix being in.
monaghan1900
20:15 on 9 December, 2014
Silly zombies making a arse of it again, the clever hun must have noticed it, you know the one with the two brain cells :-) HH
Captain Beefheart
20:15 on 9 December, 2014
Common sense from the Corkster tonight.
Why all the angst? Who cares?
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I care.
I care because it makes it abundantly clear that there’s no integrity in the Scottish game.
It’s a farce. A pointless, absurd farce. And Celtic are content to along with it.
Wits
I have a firm grip on what’s happening. Even a follower of the “bearded liar”( didn’t go under the radar)
Corkcelt
Have to disagree with you on this one. The connivance has happened (5 way agreement anyone) and will continue to happen. What really annoys me is the support and assistance they have received from those that are meant to be protecting the game. Seriously what is the point in playing by the rules when the rules are being bent to accommodate one team and their name is already inscribed on whatever cups are going.
kitalba Supporting Charity and supporting Celtic are not mutually exclusive. I commend you for diverting your savings on Season Book expenditure to Charity. I regret if you feel you cannot continue to support Celtic.
I totally and unreservedly applaud those who both support Celtic and Charities of their choice.
Gearoid, wasn’t meant to go under the radar. He is a liar,
With the news that Son of Dallas will be in charge of handing out favours on Friday night, expect queues around every bookies laying stacks of cash on all sorts of permutations on Friday ” a neck for everything but soap” as ma Da would say.