I was speaking to someone with only a notional interest in football last week who complained about football fans logic on several fronts including the notion of History.
I was asked, “What does it matter if a Rangers Newco playing at Ibrox being supported by the same people have an intangible claim to what happened in the past?
“Their memories remain, they cannot relive the past, what matters most is the future.”
Only a non-football fan could think like this, of course. History is the context for whatever happens today, without it, the game is diminished, but we are now in a fascinating debate. In practical terms, Rangers history could become quite a burden with the next few weeks.
The SPL are currently undertaking an inquiry into alleged illegal registration of players at Rangers during the 13 years before Craig Whyte rescued the club from the old board. Hundreds of football matches could have been played, many trophies ‘won’ with footballers ineligible to play.
If these allegations are proven, games involving ineligible players will be marked as 3-0 defeats. So much for the history, but what about the punishment?
Our friends at STV suggest that the SPL hold the view that the transfer of a league share from a liquidated company to a Newco would inherit historical rights from the liquidated party’s past. For Rangers Newco, this would include penalties for around 500 games played by Rangers FC with invalidly registered footballers.
The tariff of which could sink even the healthiest balance sheet.
But still, if liquidated, Rangers FC, founded around 1872 and incorporated in 1899 would cease. Newco can play wherever they like, it would be a new club. The law would protect it from misdeeds of the old company while any assets, such as the badge design, film archive or historic Arsenal shares could be purchased by any third party, including Newco. And before you bid, owning the badge design does not make you Rangers any more than if you acquired Rangers SPL share.
We’ve been told you can buy and sell history in recent weeks which is clearly nonsense but in finding a path through this subject you need to ask what is in the power of each and any organisation or group to affirm.
The SPL can transfer a share in the league and, in conjunction with the SFA, player registrations. Both can also impose outstanding disciplinary measures.
Duff and Phelps can sell the badge design independent of the league share.
Craig Whyte can sell the stadium independent of all of the above.
No one can sell, buy or transfer 140 years of history, which is why football fans recoil at suggestions of a Newco replacing their team.
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Morning all
as Im further behind than a set of Rangers IA accounts ill go for…
Black Apalachi in the National.
awrabest
Morning punters! First thing is that Oldtim’s nap is State of Play in the GN. Wouldn’t put it past the ole bugger in jumping to the top of the naps table at this point!!
Che – I’ve already backed your selection at 40’s, so hope I don’t jinx it! Also got WER, but I’ll wait until later before putting my nap up….I might chicken out the National as well !
You bhoys might remember that timbhoy in Spain put up professional tipping info during Cheltenham. He said last night that he might do same today, so watch out for it on main thread.
Laters,
T4
Bhoys can someone please put up the link to this weeks kano predictor games, I can’t access it again. If you can put it on the latest thread that would be magic cheers.
HT
http://www.thekanofoundation.com/predictor.html
Lads,
for those brave enough… ;o) … your Grand National nap should be here today… and yellow-chicken, for any other nap !
All the best,
fleagle1888
Where’s cqn’s top tipster?
Lads, it’s time to take the bull by the horns… so my Grand National nap is :
Giles Cross (currently 22/1)
Be lucky !
fleagle1888
fleagle – you’ve chucked the gauntlet down mate, so it will have to be West End Rocker for my nap.
Got a wee saver on Black Apalachi, but like Che….it’s getting on a bit ! :-)
Enjoy the weekend and happy punting.
TTTT
SAINT ARE IN THE 325 AT AINTREE FOR ME PLEASE…. also backed Treacle in the big un and Deep Purple at 100/1 be lucky bhoys
tttt
Aye I fancied rocker myself,along with springhill boy and junior.
Decisions,decisions.
NAP
ON HIS OWN ….go on Ruby
Lennon – just back them all…! Got to back at least two with 40 runners.
Talked myself out of backing Junior last night.
Good luck.
TTTT
Good luck to anyone who can pick the winner of The National,
My Nap today is my old pal Thousand Stars in 2.50 Aintree
Ok im going with Henrietta today….
so its Calgary Bay for me Bhoys!
(Also going Cappa Blue on nose and Viv Venturi as cheeky wee e/w o/s)
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
Fleagle1888
i was going to renage on a GN tip, but as you say, you have thrown down the gauntlet, therefore….
NEPTUNE COLLONGES
16.15 Aintree.
All the best!!
Afternoon lhads.
Going for Ballabriggs ,cause I don’t Fleagle to
call me a big lassie.
TOODLELOO
According to pete for me pls.
GL
CQN Saturday Naps Competition – Week 35 Results & Standings
Voguepunter (Laugh Out Loud @6/1) was the sole winner last week, so he takes the honours and jumps back to the top of the naps table…
+£16.00 voguepunter (5)
+£11.83 fleagle1888 (7)
+£ 8.75 Cathal (8)
+£ 3.58 bobbymurdoch’s winklepickers (7)
+£ 2.00 tommytwisttommyturns (3)
-£ 2.04 Rockon (10)
-£ 5.25 Raymac (5)
-£ 9.25 Eurochamps67 (6)
-£ 9.25 What is the Stars (4)
-£12.00 wolfetonebhoy (4)
-£12.50 twists n turns (3)
-£14.95 Som mes que un club (3)
-£22.00 Che (2)
-£22.25 BULL67 (2)
-£25.50 hunza rugli (2)
-£26.50 PFayr (2)
-£29.00 The Token Tim (1)
-£35.00 oldtim
*No selections from – Eurochamps67, hunza rugli, The Token Tim, wolfetonebhoy
Cheers, fleagle1888
TTTT
dont think there was any need for that, youll have noticed the other week in 67 that I am quiet and reserved soul and very easily offended.
WITS
What’s your tip for the big one?
Royal Peculiar, 2.30 Lingfield. Has a chance, and more chance than the Orcs have of escaping their doom.
just been shafted by paddy power
site is keeps going down
Feckin oscat whisky , saint are and lifetime …3 winners …none of the bets taken
seems to have taken all my losers tho
FFS
Bull67 – nice 11/1 winning nap there. Well done.
Che – aye right! Thick skin of a rhino and a face to match! :-)
Big race getting close….woo hoo!
T4
Che – that’s karma, my nap went at the second…! :-(
T4
Som mes – what a fightback and a great winning nap. What a game ole horse Neptune Collonges is!
T4
T4
A brilliant race, with a brilliant outcome!!
Cheers.
Som mes… well done, the gauntlet was thrown, and you caught it @ 33/1 !
What a performance – from the auld horse – from the elbow to the winning line, and Daryl Jacob is very deserving after a great season…
fleagle
Som mes ,only have two fingers and two letters
for you ,F U .
well done my Celtic friend.
Som mes que un club
Magnificent mate well done.
On another more serous point id like to request a Stewards enquiry into the running of this seasons Nap Comp, clearly I was at a distinct disadvantage as TTTT routinely napped the same horses as I
Given the inability of this individual to tip water out of a weans bath far less a winning horse this was evidently an attempt to ensure that my chances competing on a level playing field were reduced.
I give notice that I fully intend to seek a robust investigation by those gentlemen of the scottish media.
TTTT youve been rumbled ya big charlatan.