The good news keeps coming today. A solid 0-2 win away to Inverness, the gap at the top of the league narrowing by two points, and issue 4 of CQN Magazine is now out! Out cover feature in this issue is an interview with Lisbon Lion, Willie Wallace. Willie lives in Australia but keeps in touch with events at Celtic through the internet.
Bobby Petta also speaks to us, recounting some of the great times he experienced as a Celtic player, as well as providing an introspective on the disappointing John Barnes season.
We cover some recent topical subjects, including policing of Scottish football, the perennial poppy and the financial crisis that has engulfed our game. Checkout the speech from 1941 by President Roosevelt on four essential human freedoms. At 60 pages it’s our biggest issue yet and stuffed full of great articles. Get stuck in…
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The media, the polis and the SNP have circled the wagons. They’re on one side. The Celtic support are on the other.
Which side are the PLC on?
NEIL LENNON insisted those singing songs of hate as they follow Celtic don’t realise the significance of the words they’re belting out.
“They probably don’t know what they’re singing – they’re being influenced by others,” Lennon, above, said.
But the Bhoys boss, has vowed to weed out those tarnishing the club’s good name.
Lennon knows the background after growing up in war-torn Northern Ireland.
“A lot of people here didn’t grow up in it, so I find it disappointing,” he said.
“They weren’t moved out of their houses when there were bombs going off and things like that. Basically we want the minority of people to stop the offensive singing. That’s it in a nutshell.
“If they don’t, there will be action taken against them.
“I love this club and love the fans who do wonders for us everywhere they go and are a credit. It’s a small minority who are tarnishing the reputation.”
Lennon wants a face-to-face with those responsible and added: “I’ll state my case and they can state theirs. I don’t have a problem with freedom of speech – but a football arena is not a political arena.”
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Oh really Neil? there are many of us SB holders & share holders who grew up in NI and well remember the height of the conflict . I somehow doubt you had your home wrecked by the British army on numerous occasions, i doubt your family were interned , imprisoned and in some instances killed by The British. I doubt you were punched and kicked by British troops on your way to school. I doubt if the only reason your home wasn’t destroyed by loyalist mobs was the presence of the PIRA in your community. Many of us speak of our experiences to other Celtic supporters who in general are intelligent enough to draw their own conclusions.
Keep your opinions to yourself most of us can do without the add ons but please do not insult us. Keep politics out of CP / Football where was you condemnation of the Poppy being forced on the Irish support! Stop regurgitating the boards line, stop speaking to the British media about this if you wish to talk to the GB or indeed any supporters group do so through Celtic channels i am sure that is easy enough.
Hugely disappointed.
Butcher,after the game gettin interviewed,he stated the goal was offside,but was then let see the replay,his wee big bake soon changed,’oh that goal didnt matter’that does’t bother us’..it was 30 seconds before he seen the replay..Wee Gordon was laughing at him in the studio.
I’m sure Butchers words were that Stokes
‘was just ABOUT offside’
which means he was onside.
Just back from the Celtic Shop in Coatbridge 20% off everything. If planning any Celtic christmas presents then don’t delay. Well worth it especially if you are getting Tracksuits and strips.
According to Tracy McVeigh’s article, “Donald Findlay” is representing one of the accused in the Neil Lennon Bomb threat trail, surely this is a joke?
trail=trial
Butcher is stepping into the role vacated by big beetroot face before he got the heave ho from the minis, The Permantly Beelin’ Wan!!
Stop yer greetin’ your going down this season…
oglach UFB says:
20 November, 2011 at 13:01
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Perhaps you should read what he actually said. I’m sure he’s alluding to the Daves and Jims from Dalmarnock and Castlemilk etc.
But fire on, you’re a credit to debate and understanding.
Barrach Obampot says:
20 November, 2011 at 12:50
ULTR
Any chance of getting the Green Brigade to collaborate with the Green Machine on your next song?
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The Green m/c ….. I like it!
This would be a great addition to the song list …..my son tells me its all the rage with the young Irish out in Australia.
You shoot me down
but I won’t fall I am Titanium
V
HH
The red card ‘debacle’ makes my life all the sweeter today.
At 12.00 yesterday there was/were tons of folk (Media hounds included) setting themselves up for the end of the season.
We go to our latest bogey team – long, long journey – redolent with recent history. And that smug, grinning, ‘jobsworth’ manager they have.
And the Gers have St Johnstone at home.
The expected scenario is 0 points and 3 points.
The timeline plays out differently…
12.30 – Nip and Tuck – no Celtic collapse – early yet though
13.00 – The referee did WHAT???!!!
13.15 – 0-0 HT
13.30 – Right Butcher get them set up for a 0-0 draw
13.45 – Awe FFS
13.50 – Possible 1-1 anyone?
14.00 – Awe FFS again
14.15 – Right at least we’re at home – need to keep the double figure gap
15.45 – Plenty of time
16.15 – Still plenty of time
16.30 – Still time
16.40 – This game is crying out for a Naismith
16.45 – Ref’ll add 10 mins of injury time
16.50 – Awe FFS again
16.55 – Whit? They’ve got that game in hand coming up? Could be 7 seven points? Awe FFS…
U
oglach UFB
I have to disagree with your interpretation of Neil Lennon’s speech. He never claimed that he and his family were the sole victims of “The Troubles”. He never claimed that they had to personally experience all of the inconveniences and dangers he listed (though he has had to move house in Glasgow because of death threats).
He actually asked for a simple thing; that we do not sing songs and add-ons which harm the club. You admit you are half-way to agreeing with him on the add-ons.
I am full of admiration for the support from Ireland and outwith Scotland, who have to make great sacrifices to come here BUT…. the proportion of people from Ireland who are singing these songs at CP and in the away end is, I’d hazard, well under 5%, would you not agree? And among that small percentage will be people who have the same views as Neil Lennon.
i.e. we don sing these songs at GAA matches, a forum with a more legitimate claim, than CP, to have been an ally to the Republican and Nationalist struggles.
If we can forego the songs at GAA without any sense of shame about the songs, surely we can do the same at Celtic.
I’m off out now but I’ll catch your reply later.
oglach UFB: 20 November, 2011 at 13:01
“Keep your opinions to yourself most of us can do without the add ons but please do not insult us.”
Why should Neil Lennon keep his opinions to himself when you are free to express yours?
Paddy Gallagher says:
20 November, 2011 at 12:51
Worth a read.
That is a good read. Why was Butcher put in Scottish Football Hall of Fame?
I look forward to Lenny going in next year after winning the Treble.
Need to check the odds on that;););););)
ulysses mcghee says:
20 November, 2011 at 13:24
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Do we not play twice before the orcs play next? Having looked at a 15 point deficit recently, imagine the pressure on them if we were only 4 points behind them by the time they play?
**heads off to bookies for a Jelavic hat-trick of penalties**
‘they’re being influenced by others,” Lennon said.’
I can’t help thinking that Neil Lennon might also be being influenced by others.
pauloantony says:
20 November, 2011 at 11:32
Once I had caught up with the blog, I was going to post on the red card.
However, your post is exactly how I saw the incident.
The intent was to take the man and the damage done was down to good fortune only.
Didn’t Alan Thomson get dent of at Ibrox for missing Novo in a tackle?
coorslad is Neil Lennon says: 20 November, 2011 at 11:49
Definitely the quote of the week:
Gordon Strachan to Mark Hate-ly:
If I poked you in the eye right now, would it be sore?
Certainly brought tears (of mirth) to my eye – love the wee man.
From about 2:00 here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfDtmrIEbrQ&feature=youtu.be
The following from yesterday’s Herald is worth a wee gander.
Commons admits lack of focus in Inverness cost Celtic title
michael grant chief football writer michael.grant@heraldandtimes.co.uk
19 Nov 2011
KRIS Commons believes Celtic became too consumed by what Rangers were doing during last season’s title run-in and that ultimately it cost them the championship.
Celtic had the upper hand when Rangers lost at home to Dundee United in April – it remains the champions’ last defeat in the Clydesdale Bank Premier League – and were two points clear with 10 games left. However, Rangers won nine of those and drew the final Old Firm game, while Celtic fatally stumbled at Inverness and lost the league because of it.
“I think last year we got too caught up with Rangers and what they were doing,” said Commons. “Everyone was thinking about them dropping points against Dundee United, and they’d done this, and they’d done that, but inevitably we didn’t concentrate on beating Inverness away, we didn’t concentrate on beating Motherwell away [in February].
“So if we start taking the approach of thinking, ‘let’s hope Rangers drop points here, there and everywhere’ then we lose focus on exactly what we’ve got to do ourselves.”
Today Celtic play in Inverness for the first time since May 4, when the title was in their hands but they let it slip by crashing 3-2 to Caledonian Thistle. Suddenly they needed to keep winning and hope Rangers dropped points in their remaining four games, but they never did.
“As soon as the final whistle went in Inverness I felt that was the league done, finished,” said Commons. “It was a horrible feeling. We were playing such good football at the time and going for a championship, everything just seemed to be rolling very nicely for us. But this year we just seem to have been on the back foot. It’s a whole different ball game now.”
Today Celtic are 12 points behind the leaders with a game in hand at home to Dunfermline next Wednesday. The gap could soon reduce to nine, but it could also extend to 15 if Caley Thistle beat them again today.
“I don’t think there’s any room for error unless Rangers have a complete collapse, which I can’t see happening. We see it as more of, ‘let’s get it down to 10, nine’. We don’t look at it is possibly becoming 15. We’re doing our utmost in a positive way to get the gap down.”
The frustration Celtic have felt this season applies to Commons as much as anyone. Injuries and poor form have, so far, left him a shadow of the player who made a stunning impact between January and May. The midfielder scored 14 times after joining the club half-way through the season.
“I think expectation levels are always going to be high when you have a purple patch like I had last season, but I’m still confident that once I’m back in the side I can score and create goals and make a big impact on the team.
“With the niggly injuries, I’ve not quite been performing like I was last year. When that happens people start doubting what you’re capable of and whether you’re capable of reproducing it. So it’s been a bit of a learning curve for me, but I think I’m ready to kick on now.
“I’m always upset when I’m left out of the team, but it inspires you to train harder, work harder and try and do the business when you do get your chance. It’s been particularly difficult for me because of the results perhaps not going our way.
“If you start picking up niggly injuries and you’re not quite playing at peak performance then it is frustrating. But I’m hoping now I’m past all the niggly injuries, my groin and my calf, and the ‘not great’ performances and I can start doing the business on the park. If I can get a couple of goals then that can kick-start it off again. I feel good. I’ve had a couple of good days training and a few days off at the weekend. So I’m feeling fresh and raring to go and eager to get back on the park.”
Commons could do with making back page headlines again rather than memorable photographs. Recently he provided some vivid pictures by turning up for training as if he’d just arrived there from an accident and emergency unit. The joke – fake bandages and a neck brace – was his way of mocking internet rumours that he had been on the receiving end of a battering from his manager, Neil Lennon.
“I just find it amusing that people have still got enough energy to talk about stuff that’s not even true,” said Commons, dismissively. “It’s beyond me how rumours circulate. It wouldn’t be so bad if they were even one half of the truth, but it’s so far beyond, it just becomes comical. That’s why I went out for training the other week with the neck brace, head bandages and nose strapping, to try to make light of it.
“But once you started to hear these rumours, it wasn’t funny. I’ve got family and friends and people down south who have been asking if I’d had a bust-up with the manager.
“People that support Celtic who play for other clubs. They’re asking, ‘what’s happening with you? Why have you fallen out with Lenny? It’s just something that never happened, and never will happen.”
dirtymac
you’re right we play midweek then the Saturday – them Sunday
6 points up for grabs
one game at a time sweet Jesus…
U
Sixtaeseven,classic..his whole demenure yesterday in the studio was im with Celtic here,like it or lump it..He stated a few times that Lenny was his mate..
Do any other football fans sing pro IRA songs or is it just us. Are any sung at ROI matches or at Irish league games or elsewhere. Would be interested to know.
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oglach UFB says:………………………………@20 November, 2011 at 13:01
What utter pants……………………………….
bigjoeBeleivesINfreeeeeeeeeeedomOfSpeeeeeeeeeeeeeech
Luck was in yesterday so going for a shock result today, Suarez 1st goal Liverpool to win 2-1.
A massive 60/1.
The media cumulative effect.
Yesterday’s controversial red card will follow quickly with another Celtic game on Wednesday, then Saturday and who says referees don’t read newspapers or listen to the BBC for example.
It’s hard to imagine that 50-50 going in Celtic’s favour at the best of times, but the coverage is sustained and designed to influence people including referees.
It’s not as if we were struggling and got two soft penalties at Inverness is it? – (which led incidentally two zero debate.)
Celtic need to be better, our SPL home record and form is almost unrecognisable.
Was just catching up with the nightshift and came across a comment from Sydneytim calling Peter Lawwell a “crook”.
Now I do not know Mr Lawwell personally and have no idea about his probity, however you should be careful slinging accusations like that around Syndeytim.
Has Peter Lawwell every done a moonlight flit to Monaco leaving workers, suppliers and Taxes unpaid? Has Peter Lawwell ever been banned from holding company directorships by a court? Has Peter Lawwell had Celtic dragged through the courts repeatedly to recover money owed on debts?
You do not like the way Peter Lawwell has been steering Celtic as CEO that is your opinion and have every right to hold it, but do not let your personal antipathy to Peter Lawwell blind you. He may be overpaid and underperforming, thats a position everyone can have an opinion on, but this does not make him a crook. His salary/bonus payments are not hidden rather they are properly recorded in the annual accounts, not the actions of a crook in my book.
No offence intended and Hail Hail on a great 3 points yesterday.
Owen
jungle1967 says:
20 November, 2011 at 13:42
‘Do any other football fans sing pro IRA songs or is it just us’
Do dead fish swim with the tide?
Oglach: 13:01
I had a great uncle Felix Kelly who taught and was a head teacher of a catholic school in Belfast at the height of the troubles in the 70s and never once did I hear him mention or sing about the republican cause
He was more interested in making sure that his large family followed the teachings of the catholic faith than the teachings of an army council that was dominated by those who were only interested in their own agenda and personal wealth
Just reading through some darkside comments on their draw yesterday, looks like their best outfield player was sub Fleckidinho! Jeez, they must have been bad.
Big Cillian was missing yesterday, pity as he might just have been the man along with Sandaza to have put them to the sword, that defence of theirs is there for the taking.
Apologies for the misspelt name Sydneytim.
Can’t even blame the iphone, I’m on a laptop.
Owen
owen says:
20 November, 2011 at 13:50
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Well said Owen, I think PL has been bad for the Celtic team (or rather the strategy has), but ST has went too far with that post I think, maybe ST had his angry heid on?
On another matter, Terry Butcher SCOTLANDS hall of fame? give me a break, what the hell has he ever done for Scotland?
V
HH
I recently read a review of a book called:-
Thinking, Fast and Slow, by Daniel Kahneman.
He is a Nobel Prize winner.
The premise of the book is, that we may think of ourselves as logical creatures, but that most of our decisions and opinions are based on prejudice and emotion, instead of using analysis to arrive at a thought.
I found it a very interesting hypothesis and could identify many on here as falling into either category.
The analytical being the likes of Auldheid and SFTB, amongst a few notable others.
The prejudiced and emotional, being virtually the rest of us!
Two = To
Last post
*sighs*
mickbhoy1888 says:
20 November, 2011 at 13:57
There is one politician who stood head and shoulders above all else during the last fifty years in the North.
John Hume.
Ernie Sorry that one is over my head
Sighs isn’t everything :-)
mickbhoy1888 says:
20 November, 2011 at 13:57
‘I had a great uncle Felix Kelly…….and never once did I hear him mention… the republican cause…….
army council that was dominated by those who were only interested in their own agenda and personal wealth’
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How do you know what your great unles Felix’s views on the army council were if you never heard him mention the republican cause?
Just curious.
Paddy Gallagher thanks for you’re kind words earlier, it was a great pleasure to meet you and the wife on Thursday and a big thank you for introducing us to you’re loveley wee mammy, a real pleasure…… I hope you’re all well after that long trip.
Keep us informed of the Jersey Celts charity do, for our friend Damien.
Vinny
HH