I’m not convinced that any meeting of minds between Celtic and Legia Warsaw to allow the latter to take the place of the former in the Champions League play-off round would be recognised by Uefa. Having researched as thoroughly as possible, I’ve found no precedent for such an arrangement to be invoked.
It would, therefore, probably be safe for Celtic to take the high moral ground and acquiesce with Legia, but that would be a cheap shot at being generous, Celtic have no intentions of becoming involved, whether they have the opportunity or not.
The utter distress Legia are enduring because of an administrative oversight will cause untold damage. The club have to try everything possible, including an appeal which invokes Willie Maley and Jock Stein, but they must find a clear path through Uefa, which does not appear to exist.
What Celtic can do, is appeal to Uefa to have processes changed, just as we did in 1970 when we profited from the toss of a coin. Instead of clubs having the responsibility of checking available players, they could be issued with the same list the Uefa observer had on Wednesday, making this mistake less likely.
Current processes allow a minor infraction to cause disproportionate harm to a football club, and the tournament itself. Celtic should not hesitate in saying so.
Registration partially tightens tonight on player eligibility for our Champions League play-off round against NK Maribor. After today, clubs can only add one player to their squad for these games.
While it is important to get players in ahead of Maribor, I’m not convinced the arrivals will be able to have a transformational impact. It will largely be those already at Lennoxtown who will exorcise the demons of Murrayfield.
For what it’s worth, Maribor think they are absolute certainties to progress. Planning to analyse them in detail tomorrow; I’m not betting against them.
I was mystified as to how relegated Hearts managed to win away from home in their first game as a lower league club but now I’ve heard Ally McCoist blame the off-field input of Charles Green it all makes sense. How could any footballer reasonably expect to put in a shift with a former director speaking to the media some time earlier?
Delighted to hear the Daily Record swooped in to asset this as the reason for Newco Rangers demise yesterday. It’s the same deflection as went on during Murray/Whyte/Green years all over again. Why do they do this to themselves?
Let’s hope Ally sticks to his guns are clings to that contract like a fudge doughnut.
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Johann C was linked to Celtic in the early 1970’s, but it was just paper talk. Jock Stein would have had a fit, apart from anything else.
BSR
The Celtic support were in no mood to accept anything last week.
Platitudes, cliches, explanations, spin, excuses. They all become one big mass of BS when you are in mob mood and looking to lynch the first guy that opens his mouth to try to reason.
We do need players to improve. We will always need players to improve. There are two transfer windows every year and there are signings in most every one of them, even the Willo window. If the signings are good, we forget about them. If they are bad, we want to have another go to rectify our mistake.
We cannot change our position in the food chain easily. We are a club that others predate upon. Some say that is PL’s fault because he has made us a selling club but we are, like others, open to bids for our players and always have been. We lost a steady stream from Macari, Hay, Dalglish, Nicholas, McClair, Johnston, McAvennie, Mcleod, Collins, Van Hooydonk, Di Canio, Viduka, Petrov, Wanyama and Hooper. On a rare occasion we get to keep a servant like Lennox, McGrain, McStay or Larsson for a bit longer but, post-Bosman, that is harder to achieve. Even someone as Celtic minded as Tommy Burns was prepared to leave because he was not enjoying his lot.
So, yes, we will get some in. We will not know if they are good enough until they get here. Hell, sometimes, we don’t even know how good they are until they have gone (Nakamura gets better ratings now than when he was part of a Celtic team that was also called the worst Celtic in 30 years).
Most of our signings have come later on in the window when we know where our season is heading. Fans want the players to come earlier. The best solution I can come up with is to buy them in January so they are ready for the following July/August but, even there, you tend to only find the players clubs are willing to lose, being available in January.
Win some. Lose some. No easy solutions here
Johann C was linked to Dumbarton, but then someone in the boardroom mentioned he was marked oot the game by Graeme Sinky Sinclair , and there fore a DUD.
James Forrest is praying for The Unconquerable Oscar Knox
Have enjoyed your critique blog mate
Thought you might like this
Wilson Wobbler Womble says:
August 11, 2014 at 4:42 pm
Rangers will need more than a new coach to stop Celtic they will also need tens of millions of investment to rebuild the playing side infrastructure to match them.
Mc Coist fits the current financial situation because he did not walk away and until that dramatically changes (not any time soon by the look of things) I’m afraid Rangers will be a lesser club.
In fact Hearts are a better run club after going bust and ironically they should have been the model Rangers copied whilst they started all over again at the bottom of the leagues.
http://therangersreport.com/2014/08/11/ally-mccoist-its-time-you-left-for-the-sake-of-rangers-football-club/comment-page-1/#comment-2216
parkheadcumsalford
17:51 on 11 August, 2014
MickTT,
Some of our support are beyond parody. They booed Fergus. I suspect the same lot booed Gordon Strachan. Why??? Much the same group, again I suspect, have it in for DD and Peter Lawell.
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Yep just going to remain one of life’s mystery’s, like why we loved Charlie Nicholas… Left, knocked us back, don us in a cup final, came back when it was to late to refill his ego and now sups soup.
Ayrshire is Green and White
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Charlie was our first modern superstar. Only Henke has surpassed the hysteria around him during his first spell. And before he broke his leg he was world class. Remember his goal for Scotland v Spain? Has there been a better Scotland goal in last 30 years?
It takes time to rebuild a team and bring in a new style of play 6 weeks is no where near enough neither is 6 months.Give Rony time lets look at the whole situation in 18 months things may well look a lot different by then.We are in Europe at least up to Christmas no matter what happens so lets see how we do in the 3 Scottish tourneys.H.H.
Thindimebhoy:
Thanks for your kind words mate!
I read that piece earlier hehe … realisation is dawning on some of them.
Too late though :)
JAmes Forrest,
If you were a fish you would now be battered , fried and in all honesty lying in some fat bassas belly next to a chewed up pickled onion
Stop taking the bait
HH
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo:
Haha yeah … probably.
http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/regarding-alistair/#more-4948
HH
All of you, shut up, NOW!
You’re all talking crap!
And stop tormenting poor wee Ronny like a horde of huns you continually resemble!!
4 games FFS!
Grow up!
ryecatcher
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Tonev is shite….
Have seen him with my own eyes……
Dreadful signing……
Embarrassment
The only embarrassment here is you on a Celtic blog. I HAVE seen the the player many times and he’ll be a fantastic player for Celtic.
Suttton: awful till he came to the Hoops.
Petrov: took a yr to settle.
Away back to your fantasy world in scouse-land.
http://www.onfieldsofgreen.com/warsaw-the-fuss-about-3/
HH
McCoist’s media ‘utterances’ are ‘CRINGY’, apparently!
They are indeed!
Whatever that means.
HH!!
SFTB
Point well taken.
Deadline day signings for a manager only 5 weeks in the job…
…are usually just to coax some of us out from behind the couch.
Many of the usual suspects frequently considered not good enough for Celtic have been signed on deadline day as we desperately want someone/anyone to come in. It signifies to us (behind the couch) that we are still able to attract players, regardless of whether we know them or not.
Alexander Tonev is just the latest, although we have heard of him before.
A loanee that failed to make the grade at Villa, such that Villa fans are breathing a sigh of relief, has the huge expectations of Celtic fans on his shoulders.
Signing players to placate and appease fans’ yearning for action after the debacle against Legia should not be the cornerstone of our August signing strategy. I hope Ronny has long term plans for the team that have Tonev as a key element.
Commons replacement as far as I can see.
Good Luck Alexander (signing yet to be confirmed)
HH
Inside The SPFL @AgentScotland 1m
Aleksander Tonev passed his medical, Celtic will pay 100% of his £700k p/y wage & will have option of buying him for £1.25m next Summer
Beamish Etc
Thanks,fur Yer reply, Kid.
Ah Canny Pick any Holes in yer Argument..
So..Ah guess Ah wull Hiv tae Try tae Pick a Few Holes in yer.. Socks??
Well , Ah wull dae best..
Anyway.. Read Oan…
Sure, Everything that Ye hiv said Regarding whit Aston’s Fans Say aboot Sandy..
That’s Alexander, tae his Maw… n..it
is Verbatim.
But..
Ah am relyin oan the Perspicacity of Ma wee Duck…
HIs Perspicacity, may no be .. the same as the Aston fans .. Perspicacity..
but
Ah wull go wi His.. Jist because…Ah like Him.. n …Ah want him tae be
Right in furnishing the Glowing Confidence..which he has Expressed, regarding The Worth that Sandy may Bring… tae Celtic..
Fur…
furgetting, awe Sandy’s Ither Talents..fur the time bein’
If
Sandy.. Can…as Nutsy Claims
Turn oot tae Be a Guy who is as Good As Boabby Murdoch wiz..
in.. his Passing Accuracy..of the Fitba’
then..
Hallalujah… Ah wull welcome Sandy wi open airms.
Fur..
If Celtic, could Only Find that Man.. wi thur Final Pass…. as Am Told..
Sandy wull Dae,, n wi CONSTISTENCY..
then..
At least we wulll hiv Wan guy in theTeam
Who wull be able tae Pull Oor Chestnuts oota the fire…
When it is Required of Someone..
right Noo.. We ur Bereft of the Loast Talent of
a Guy who Kin Pass the ba’ wi Pin Point Accuracy.. oan account of….we dinnae hiv Yin.
N..
Nutsy, done tole me.. several times..
that Sandy is the Very man .. fur That joab.. of a ….Pinpoint Passer..
Heck.. we wull soon Find oot .. won’t we?
Yes we wull..
Nice chatting,pal..as evah
Kojo
Still,Laughin
Comical article on the Legia saga in the Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/aug/11/celtic-legia-warsaw-champions-league-fair?commentpage=1
“I’m still looking at the team-sheet to see how many of the team in Bratislava are ineligible,”
He is a funny guy
HH
Kojo 1829
Were you part of the commentary team for North Korean state media during north korea’s memorable World Cup triumph over Portugal last month?
In regards to the ongoing Legia saga I have to say that any sympathy I had for them is gone. Celtic did nothing wrong here, apart from two truly awful performances, Legia Warsaw messed up not us.
In all honesty Legia Warsaw tried to circumvent the rules by a cunning ruse and it failed spectacularly. Legia knew the player was ineligible for three games and should therefore have registered him in their 25 man squad for the qualifiers but not selected him for the squad until the match at Celtic Park. They tried to pull a fast one by not registering him, thus still having 25 players to choose from, but still tried to say he had served his suspension.
Legia’s action since they were sanctioned have been outrageous, they have apportioned blame to everyone but themselves. “Celtic should do the decent thing”, “UEFA have overreacted to an administrative error” but not once has anyone said straight out ” we tried it on and it failed spectacularly” or ” sorry we pulled a fast one and got caught”.
Did Juventus get a fit of the guilties after Amoruso’s dive?, Arsenal’s public apology for Eduardo’s antics must have escaped me. Ryan Giggs and his tumble, surely a man of his integrity came out with a fulsome and heartfelt apology? We have been regularly cheated in European competitions so when this once the attempted cheating fails so spectacularly you will forgive me if I laugh at the idea of Celtic “doing the right thing” or “taking the moral high ground”.
Some pictures of Tonev arriving earlier today for his medical.
http://www.snspix.com/11-08-14-aleksander-tonev/photo/116696.html
HH
/Bishop B
Kojo
It is faur Too Late in the Day fur Celtic tae cut Loose wi the Dough.
the Maribor game.. is a Bridge.. TOO NEAR.
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True Kojo
There is not the time or inclination
The business plan for this season was decided last season and an unexpected windfall wont change that.
DD and PL are playing a bit of a long game as you have to do in an unpredictable market
fat sally clinging to that contract like a fudge doughnut is like a new signing
Remember when we signed Newcastle’s third choice goalkeeper? Remember all the posters who said we were shopping in the bargain basement and deserved better?
The Glorious Balance Sheet
Indeed.. Ah wiz
Thanks fur askin..
It’s Good tae be Famous?
Right
Of Course, Ah am Right..
Ah Alwiz Am.
Kojo
Still,Laughin
An Tearmann
:))))
A wee wink a knowing nod all tied in with a broad smile has a devastating effect on zombies
silverbulletpfffffffffffffft
Gotta Leave,Steve..
Seeya..
Kojo
Still,Laughin
Ghanaian press saying Stromsgodset keeper Adam kwarasey on his way to Celtic HH
Len
Tonev looks like he just read Ryecatchers post :)
TSOAL
Not a bad deal if it is true.
Probably not expensive.
What happens if Tonev decides he doesn’t want to stay at the end of his loan deal?
Signing players on loan with an option to buy is all well and good but we need to remember that the player is not obliged to stay with us after the loan period if we want to keep him.
So if Tonev is a dud, it’s a waste of 700k. If he turns out to be a cracker then we might not be able to keep him and are left trying to fill this position again next season.
I guess that’s a worry for another day as far as those who set our long term strategy are concerned.
Are Sevco the first club to name a stand in memory of another club’s player?
Tonev… Wow wee…
Is that it??! We need (1) a GOALSCORER, (2) a Left back, (3) PROVEN cover/competition for SB
It would be interesting to classify our recent signings into those who arrived on deadline day and those who arrived well before.
If my memory serves, most of the goodies arrived early. Can anyone think of a last-minute buy that made the grade recently?
The glorious balance sheet
Going by the posts on here the poor fella is dead in the water before he kicks a ball…..
We need a transfer window for supporters in place too. I’d punt Ryecatcher on a free…:)
Kojo
I thought it might have been you when I heard that the North Korean media were claiming that the World Cup winning goals were scored by assimilated North Korean midfielder Mark Millar!
Stay famous sir!
the glorious balance sheet
So if Tonev is a dud, it’s a waste of 700k
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If the wages are correct, and the agreed fee of £1.25m is correct, then if Tonev is a dud it would have been a waste of circa £2m, in the first season. if we had signed instead of loaned. A 3 year contract could take that up to a waste of £3.5m.
Loan with the option to buy is not a bad deal for players who haven’t shined at their former club. I’m hoping we can invest most of the Forster money in a number 9