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  1. GFTB on

    Petec 11.18pm

     

     

    Ffs I was just logging off …

     

     

    How good has Callum been this season ?

     

     

    Absolutely amazing … Maestroesque

  3. petec on

    GFTB,

     

     

    Callum has been top drawer for years now, he is just so consistent.

     

     

    You are right though about the night when the Fenian of the Opera first appeared. He is our inspirational Capitano and Everyone responded that night.

     

     

    Lowlife Boyd said what he said and again stayed in situ @ Skum Sports.

     

     

    I’d like a Wanyama type brought in in the Summer as Callum is going into Every challenge wholeheartedly and that isnae his game, invariably he will get injured because of his Bravery, thankfully no real harm was done this Season.

  5. Spidey101 on

    SFTB

     

     

    Again not the night for it, so I’ll make a few quick points and no more.

     

     

    “Which brings me to my final point- you praise Sevco for having spent money they don’t have to stop the 10 and get to a Euro final…” I didn’t praise them for spending money they didn’t have, but rather that they focussed exclusively on making their side the best it could be, and they achieved their aims – stopped the 10. They’ve also out-performed us in Europe and become more respected as a result – not just this one-off wonder run, but that’s the third year in a row they’ve gone deeper into tournaments than we have. As I said before, since 2004, we’ve won a single post group knock-out game – one single game! They’ve won at least two post-group games every year for three years now!

     

     

    I also wasn’t suggesting that we follow their “spend money we don’t have” approach and build a debt. What I am saying is that (1) we should spend what we have on the football team (rather than hoarding £30m-odd for a few years) and (2) stop always going for what looks like the cheaper option but often looks like a false economy.

     

     

    In terms of our managers, yes Mowbray was a semi-expensive failure – for many a predictable one given his resume wasn’t great (Hibs and a West Brom relegation). Dalglish too although that was more to do with the bonkers idea of giving his golfing partner the Head Coach role. Interesting you omit the two occasions where we went “all in” on expensive managers – O’Neill and Rodgers. Both brought success we hadn’t tasted for a while and, in Rodger’s case for sure, paid for themselves.

     

     

    In his time, we made profit of £35m over 3 years and delivered £100m + turnover, whereas either side of him we were just about breaking even at turnovers of £60-70m. He literally paid for himself and made us richer, while the Ronnie/Lennon cheap options were, again, a false economy.

     

     

    In terms of Wim and Ange being cheap options, yes they were. In Wim’s case he left because his ambitions weren’t shared by the Board. We got lucky with Ange, I’ll give you that!

     

     

    Directors and CEOs don’t win titles or games, but they do make or break managers. Lawell’s decision not to buy Fletcher potentially cost us the league that year. Giving Lennon the job in the showers led to inevitable decline and loss of the ten. Not paying the extra £1m in transfer fee led to us missing out on Toney and ending up with Ajeti. Floofing around with offers for McGinn led to him choosing Villa instead. All direct decisions of the Board/CEO that impacted our fortunes on the pitch.

     

     

    Anyway, we are where we are as they say. I’ll enjoy the league title and Ange’s turnaround. I’m merely frustrated that the Board don’t seem to want to do anything more than just enough, and as a result we have fallen into a pattern of domestic success, sleepwalk into a failure/embarrassment of some sort (Ronnie’s semi-final, last years’ debacle), some investment to get domestic success, sleep….

     

     

    MOTM today for me was CalMac – stepped up when we were struggling and upped the tempo! Can see why people want a DM brought in though – he was popping up all over the place which means him being the 6 is reducing what he can offer the team but also leaving us exposed to quick counter attacks!

  7. GFTB on

    Petec 11.36pm

     

     

    I actually think Callum has got even better without Broony (that’s no a slight on Scott) I think Callum has now said … this is my team … I love the new players talking about our capitano … the Bhoy is growing season after season … heard both Simon Donnelly & Mark Wilson on SSB saying nobody should think that Callum is a soft touch just because he’s a different character from Broony ….

     

     

    He is such a good footballer into the bargain

     

     

    Yet again … good times mate 🍀

  10. GFTB on

    Spidey101 11.40pm

     

     

    Your posts are always worth a read (not that I agree 100% :-)

     

     

    But do you think our fan base want an Ange team or for instance a GVB team ?

     

     

    The Huns have had a terrific season in European terms but still won 1 … yes, 1 trophy in a decade …

     

     

    Seville final is quite a thing … but one trophy in a decade … would “we” want to set up like the Huns and win nit very much domestically to get to a Euro final

     

     

    By the way … Ange might do both, but if he keeps delivering silverware that’s my kind of manager

     

     

    Great football to boot … what’s not to like

  12. An Tearmann on

    PeteC

     

     

    When is it not challenging being a Celt 😊

     

    32 titles in my Celtic time.

     

     

    From a meeting in St Mary’s Hall.

     

     

    Hail Hail to those that carried and supported Celtic

     

    Into the modern era,unconditional Celtic men and woman each one.God rest them

     

     

    Enjoy and Hail Hail Champion

     

     

    HH

  15. Spidey101 on

    GFTB

     

    I don’t think we’d accept GVB-ball across a whole season, no. WGS’ time showed that stodgy/boring/risk free football has a shelf life at Celtic. But there’s a balance isn’t there? O’Neill’s sides (at least the ones with Henrik) managed to balance flair, goals, excitement with a steely core (goalkeepers aside). And Lennon showed in flashes that we could transition from attack minded in the league to keeping it tight in Europe. The best sides in Europe adapt to the opposition – look at Real Madrid’s rope-a-dope against City and PSG for example.

     

     

    Equally I agree that one trophy in a decade for us wouldn’t be much to shout about, but we’re not a club who have only been in the top flight for 7 years. They need to spend more than they can afford to keep up with what we can afford to spend. But they perform better than us in Europe and have consistently for 3 years now – there’s lessons to learn there if we want to, but too many fixate on domestic success as the be all and end all.

     

     

    I hope you’re right about Ange and he can break our post-group knock-out duck next season! And I hope the Board back him – that worries me given simply to stand still (keeping CCV, Jota and our compulsory buying Maeda) will cost us around £14m and this Board are more likely to say that’s our whack as to spend a bit more!

     

     

    Anyway, let’s enjoy the turnaround and the title and hope we’re toasting Frankfurt’s success! This discussion is one we can take over at the end of summer when we see where we are going into Ange’s Celtic 2.0!

  18. GFTB on

    Spidey101 12.18am

     

     

    I think the Huns in Europe set up like a MON team, Martin came in 2000 and made sure we were difficult to beat … although he had Henrik the Huns have Tavpen … I have said for years (before Ange) I would love us to set up in Europe not to get beat … sometimes playing 2 wingers and giving our defence no protection … apart from when Lennon & Lambert we’re protecting Mjalby, Bajde, Valgaren (at right back) and maybe a Vega … but as you say we can debate that another day, maybe once the champions league draw has been made :-)

     

     

    But as you say we can enjoy this title for next few weeks … and then I can look out my Eintract Frankfurt scarf after the Motherwell game next Saturday

  20. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Celtic are champions again.

     

     

    No ifs, buts, maybes.

     

     

    No qualifications, equivocations.

     

     

    Just champions.

     

     

    How good is that?

  23. IniquitousIV on

    SFTB

     

    “But, if you backed a 100/1 horse strategy every year, you would have had a winner 5 times in the 183 year history of the race”

     

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    True, but I really wish I had put a bundle on the Kentucky Derby today. Ruch Strike came in at 88 to 1. The name and the odds should have given me a clue!

  29. IniquitousIV on

    Celtic’s virtual clinching of the SPL Championship is in NINTH position in the order of football reports on BBC Scotland Football. Hurtin’ Hun Bassas!

  40. Chairbhoy on

    Grand Day To Be A Tim – Again.

     

     

    Great Game Yesterday – This Team Really Knows How To Dig In. Well Done Ange And The Bhoys And A Special Mention For CalMac, A True Celtic Captain.

     

     

    SFtBs @ 8:34 PM,

     

     

    Well here we are again, squaring the circle. You are going over old arguments that have no credibility whatsoever. So let’s set the record straight and move on…

     

     

    … This kind of debate and thinking which was there amongst most of our support is not confined to the “suit’s” thinking, and they don’t influence our chances of success by much; that is always down to players and coaches. They are the ones who are praised when successful and derided when not. Directors and Chairmen just need to run finances prudently and not get in the way.

     

     

    Yet the fact remains in the recent past, they have very much got in the way and the Board remains the same and their mantra remains the same when asked about Europe…

     

     

    … The Celtic PLC CEO at the 2021 AGM

     

     

    “If we talk about Europe, it’s a much different environment to what it was 20 years ago. We all know that, you know that. You go into the Champions League and you get absolutely pasted by the likes of Paris Saint-Germain and Barcelona. Celtic Football Club is not the Qatar Government. There’s a whole set of different players out there with completely different pockets.”

     

     

    This mindset must go!!

     

     

    Since Lenny managed back to back UCL qualification and sold players on like Wanyama, Kayal, Hooper, Ki Sung Yueng etc.. It has never been necessary for the Club to go into debt to fund a transfer window. That is a bogus argument.

     

     

    The fact is Celtic need not have gone into debt to pay for a European campaign just reinvest the money that we had, as our CEO had promised

     

     

    “Our commitment as a board has been that every penny that comes in will be reinvested back into the club. That is a fact.”

     

     

    Also the lack of return on inv€$tment argument has no credence anymore. Not that, that should be a football club’s priority as The Rangers have shown, football success has it’s own reward in many tangible and untangible ways.

     

     

    And the fact remains when we invested in a decent coach and backroom staff, backed him to a least an extent in the transfer market we seen the rewards.

     

     

    Back to back UCL qualification, record turnover, record profits, record squad value – unsurpassed record breaking trophy haul.

     

     

    Yet it did not suit the Board and they pulled the plug in 2018. The evidence just goes one way, and that proves conclusively that the Boards (clandestine*) strategy was a failure.

     

     

    Remember this?

     

     

    https://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/the-problem-of-relative-poverty/

     

     

    We need to get away from the mindset we can’t compete in Europe and from what I’m hearing from Ange and seeing from the players on the pitch they will have no such defeatest attitudes.

     

     

    Looking forward to winning the League, preparations for the UCL proper next Season without the dinosaurs getting in the way. And having a real pop at the competition playing football the Glasgow Celtic way.

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    *Remember the Board had always stated they’d reinvest (“every penny”) in the club, back the manager, leave the decision making to the manager. We know from hindsight of the events and a plethora of evidence that has come out that this wasn’t the case. They always had a different agenda.

     

     

    Just two examples – the transfer “document” that was released on social media. The President of Lyon admitting that he had been negotiating with “bulldog” Lawwell for the transfer of Moussa Dembele.

     

     

    There are any amount of other examples from Barry Fry’s comments on the Toney negotiations to John McGinn’s comments on the failure of his transfer from Hibs to Celtic. It is clear the Celtic Board had a secret strategy, just like they had for res12 and that, that strategy was fatally flawed both commercially and for football excellence.

  41. Chairbhoy on

    Correction…

     

     

    The Celtic PLC CEO at the 2021 AGM

     

     

    Should be…

     

     

    The Celtic PLC Chairman at the 2021 AGM

     

     

    i.e. Mr Bankier

     

     

    Hail Hail

  42. Big Jimmy on

    31003 on 7TH MAY 2022 9:43 PM

     

    Sextuple if you count the quiz show we won. ( Can’t remember what it was called)

     

    ………………..

     

    In season 1966/67 Celtic WON….

     

    The European Cup,

     

    The Scottish League,

     

    Scottish Cup,

     

    League Cup.

     

    Glasgow Cup.

     

    The ” Alfredo Di Stephano” Trophy…when we BEAT Real Madrid 1-0 in their ain midden……

     

     

    AND QUIZBALL….

     

    HH.

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