Tonight, we see the conclusion of the first of two ties that don’t involve Celtic but have a significant bearing on our income and domestic competitive stance. Union Saint-Gilloise take a 2-0 lead to Ibrox, a result that in earlier times brought an 80% success rate. Without the away goals rule, the advantage is reduced, Union also lost heavily at the weekend. Newco will be rightfully confident of progress.
Qualification for the Champions League play-off round is worth over £5m in prize and gate money. Celtic stand to earn an extra £3m if Newco are eliminated at this round or the next; that money would otherwise float across Glasgow to become part of Newco’s European bounty. More importantly, our casino-football addicted rivals would be denied expensive chips to place before the transfer window closes. No apologies for watching CL qualification closely this year.
Just a year ago, Celtic were eliminated from the Champions League the second qualification round by Midtjylland. The transformation between then and now could scarcely be imagined. A year ago, it was significantly more unlikely for Newco to reach the Europa League final. We cannot underestimate them, or the significance a Champions League windfall would have.
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In Ireland we had a Fáinne system, The Fáinne was a pin for your lapel. A silver one represented those with limited proficiency in Gaelic, a Gold one represented those who were more proficient,
Wearing a Fáinne indicated you were willing to try to speak a bit of Gaelic .
A perfect stranger seeing the Fáinne, might just stop you on the street or in the pub and just have a cúpla focail .(a couple of words0
There was no embarrassment and if you were struggling to keep the conversation going it was OK to talk half Gaelic & half English.
It’s more or less gone out of fashion here now, which is a pity, but any Community anywhere trying to keep a language alive could easily adopt a similar system,
I don’t think of it so much as taking an interest in Sevco’s results ………
……. more like taking an interest in their opponents and willing them on.
Paul, we also have a CL windfall.
Or didn’t you know that
Finally managed to watch the second half of the RC game.
Or at least the bit after the 53 minute disruption.
1st half — RC very passive / we were wasteful / lacking in focus.
2nd half — we start brighter and the goal starts to bring RC out of their shell.
MF — we had 3 ghosts playing — not good.
A bit hard of MO’R as he did come alive as the game wore on.
However nobody in the MF too k hold of the game — CMcG was poor / DT was MIA.
Their goal was a shocker — static wrestling / GT was transfixed / JH was slow.
Very similar to the SW goal the week before — wrestling but the attacker finally gets a jump.
The free kick and save — our wall was a shambles and gave them a big target to aim for.
JPNF looks back to his best and then some more.
He was the only player who wanted to shape the game.
GT also had a good game — he seems to be getting the hang of moving into the MF.
At times he was saving our MF from total collapse.
LA looked good — not sure how he would have coped with the sloppiness / lack of drive in the first half?
Finally karma in football — the RC No.2 who much be Dutch / complete clogger.
He was looking for a victim the whole game and he was not the only one.
Word seems to be out that it a free fire zone against us.
MIB seem to know the score — bounties on our players.
BuddyBall makes the SPL.
CORKCELT on 9TH AUGUST 2022 2:15 PM
It is fascinating.
Corkcelt.
I remember the Fainne well.
At the time I didn’t appreciate the language (school with Peig Sayers etc)
It seemed so backward and irrelevant and to be honest many of the Gailgoers I encountered were zealots who seemed to have the old “burn everything English but their coal” motto as their raison d’etre..As kids football (meaning soccer) was our big passion (playing watching discussing) and it appeared to us that the Gaelic speaking cohort were anti soccer (insisting on Gaelic Games).
However youth is wasted on the young of course and with maturity came an appreciation of the language and pride that it’s survived and flourishes. I am far from fluent but like to throw in a cupla focail now and then
Saint Stivs
Ref Gaelic learning TV
All joking aside the programme seemed a really good one and not too complicated a level.
Sorry I don’t have a link but I was watching normal tv and don’t have the details.
I am on Harris just now and aside from being the only wet and windy place. In the UK today it is still stunning down at Luskentyre. Nowhere can touch it for natural beach beauty. Even the dog in our wee place answers to calls in Gaelic.
Neither Rainjurz or Sevco have ever overcome a 2-0 Euro scoreline, even in they do they still have to beat Monaco or PSV. The three million pound swing isn’t that our concern, we already have the CL money.
I see the shameless mad one is back,
No Rebel songs in the early Celtic Songbook, no Gaelic ever spoken in Glasgow.
Not even knowing that the name Glasgow comes from the Gaelic, which translated as the Dear Green Place.
A chancer of the highest degree,
Just for you who have been shown up as a con artist , The song sung when Michael Davitt laid the sod from Donegal on the opening of Celtic Park.
High upon the gallows tree swung the noble hearted three
By the vengeful tyrant stricken in their bloom
But they met him face to face with the courage of their race
And they went with souls undaunted to their doom
God save Ireland, said the heroes
God save Ireland, said they all
Whether on the scaffold high
Or the battlefield we die
Oh, what matter when for Erin dear we fall
Climbed they up the rugged stair, rang their voices out in prayer
Then with England’s fatal cord around them cast
Close beside the gallows tree kissed like brothers lovingly
True to home and faith and freedom to the last
God save Ireland, said the heroes
God save Ireland, said they all
Whether on the scaffold high
Or the battlefield we die
Oh, what matter when for Erin dear we fall
Never till the latest day shall the memory pass away
Of the gallant lives thus given for our land
But on the cause must go, amidst joy and weal and woe
Till we make our Isle a nation free and grand
God save Ireland, said the heroes
God save Ireland, said they all
Whether on the scaffold high
Or the battlefield we die
Oh, what matter when for Erin dear we fall
St Tams 2.24pm
Not a betting man but I would bet that Paul does know that.
As we operate in a competitive market I am guessing our nearest rival performance is of relevance.
The key is a huge swing from our nearest domestic challengers if they lose.
The added benefit of 2 weeks watching themlicking their wounds watching qualifiers as they try to recalibrate does make many Celtic supporters quite interested in tonight’s outcome.
Are you not at all interested ?
CC @ 2.15
The only flaw in your cunning plan is that Gaelic has never been the native language of Glasgow / West Central Scotland.
Back in the day we spoke Welsh.
Strathclyde was the second last Welsh speaking Kingdom.
That was Lancashire and Lanarkshire combined.
Chester / Wirral to Dumbarton / the Vale in its pomp.
Under pressure from the Angles in the Midlands then the Vikings from York so the land link with Wales was broken. Finally destroyed / overrun / dismembered by a joint Anglo-Saxon and Pict/Scots campaign — best analogy would be Poland in the 18th century.
Or more topically — a bit like Not Jacinda and BoJo in the 2019 election.
Not good.
Bournesouprecipe
There is a swing of the total Scottish media pot as I understand it.
Glasgow is Gaelic Dickhead.
When the Romans invaded Britain Celtic languages were the vernacular. Generally speaking, ‘P’ Celtic was spoken south of Hadrians wall and ‘Q’ Celtic was spoken north of it. Gaidhlig is the modern version of ‘Q’ Celtic and Welsh is the modern form of ‘P’ Celtic.
I think he has failed his exams again.
What a lot of drivelly pish
CORKCELT on 9TH AUGUST 2022 2:15 PM
The internet opens up all sorts of avenues for that approach given that the bulk of aspirant Gaelic speakers probably live outside the Gàidhealtachd and have little chance of bumping into a proficient speaker in the street.
I’m sure there’s lots of wee wivies out there on the islands who’d like nothing better than a blether on Teams or suchlike with someone trying to learn Gaelic.
Time to prepare to go to the dentist, some if the stuff on here I just PMSL😂😂😂😂😂😂
BURNLEY78 on 9TH AUGUST 2022 2:31 PM
Saint Stivs
Ref Gaelic learning TV
All joking aside the programme seemed a really good one and not too complicated a level.
Sorry I don’t have a link but I was watching normal tv and don’t have the details.
I am on Harris just now and aside from being the only wet and windy place. In the UK today it is still stunning down at Luskentyre. Nowhere can touch it for natural beach beauty. Even the dog in our wee place answers to calls in Gaelic.
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I think it might be Joy Dunlop, she does the weather, following on from some others Gaels, the infamous Annie Luddon for one.
Yu know I like your gin but can I also recommend ISLE OF HARRIS GIN, lovely stuff, in a lovely bottle.
I also like their Grey and aqua green tie.
I will get there some day.
enjoy.
Glaschu (Scottish Gaelic)
Pronunciation
IPA: /ˈɡ̊l̪ˠasəxu/
Proper noun
Glaschu
Glasgow
Dictionary entries
Entries where “Glaschu” occurs:
Glasgow: …usually romantically translated as “the dear green place.” Compare modern Gaelic Glaschu Pronunciation (Brit. Eng.) IPA: /ˈɡlɑːzɡəʊ/ (Amer. E
da feckin heat
Whe looking back in history it is important to define the period being discussed – just saying
I really don’t get any football fan not having an interest in seeing their rivals get gubbed. It’s part of the attraction. Do Barca and Madrid fans not enjoy each others defeats and dread their victories and the bragging that brings? The Liverpool and Manchester clubs hate each other (within and between the cities) and so far as I can tell, revel in each others struggles when they arise. Arsenal and Tottenham the same.
Not caring about your rivals fortunes is the outlier behaviour, not the other way round. It isn’t ‘obsessive’ it’s part of the package.
Granted, there’s an extra socio political/ historic edge to our own situation but that makes the interest all the more inevitable.
Quite happy to see other Scottish teams do well in Europe but not them. Incidentally if by some miracle another Scottish team like Aberdeen got near to winning old big ears (in dome alternative universe type situation) I’d be wanting them humped at that stage. The Big Cup is our thing. The rest of them can gtf as far as that is concerned!!
Anyway forget The Rainjurs (have they not suffered enough)
The big game tonight is in North Macedonia. Europa league qualifier.
Shkupi v Shamrock Rovers..the Dublin hoops have a 3 1 lead from the first leg and if they get through tonight face either Qarabag or Ferencevaros in a play off game for Europa league group stages with conference league group stages guaranteed…All of which is a huge achievement for League of Ireland clubs
ALMORE on 9TH AUGUST 2022 2:42 PM
‘When the Romans invaded Britain Celtic languages were the vernacular. Generally speaking, ‘P’ Celtic was spoken south of Hadrians wall and ‘Q’ Celtic was spoken north of it.’
This article suggests otherwise
‘At the time of the Roman occupation, the territories now claimed by the modern nation we call “Scotland” was inhabited by people speaking forms of Goidelic and Brythonic languages. It is only due to the Roman presence that divisions emerged in the Brythonic branch which led to the use of the labels “Pict” and “Briton.”
https://www.mystfx.ca/celtic-studies/gaelic-scotland
Hadrian’s Wall didn’t follow any existing political or cultural boundary, rather it established them.
I’m offski to a Barbecue, have a feeling it’s going to drag on late into the night.
Fear I’m going to miss the Hun game and also fear I’ll have a sick head in the morning, with a Golf game at 9.20.
Still duty calls.
Corkie
Go n’eirigh an bothar leat
CORKCELT on 9TH AUGUST 2022 2:46 PM
You wouldn’t hang a dog on the type of evidence adduced to justify claims of place name etymology so I wouldn’t get too hung up on the various claims.
Personally I prefer the suggestion that Glasgow means grey dog or greyhound. Seems more appropriate somehow.
CC @ 2.35
Read up on our history — Gaelic in the context of Glasgow is the invaders tongue.
Glasgow was a hovel beside a stream — Dumbarton and Govan were where it was at back in the day.
can anyone enlighten me on the outcome into the enquiry of the dreadful scenes the last time we played the the old firm at thems place, or are they more interested in the nutter that thro his bag of chips at the jam tarts player.
posted this yesterday so I take it that the authorities have decided their actions did not merit any form of punishment , so imo we should hand out our own and give them zilch , zero allocation for our next home game against the old firm or are we to weak as a club at the top to call thems out.
Wits, Go raibh maíth agat,
I’m in the ‘I hope the huns go out ‘ camp
Burnley78
Sevco have now the control that used to be afforded to Rainjurz and hey presto it helped kill the original club by keeping stume on the debt. STV is a next door neighbour and complete business partner BBC are back on a final warning, with near fanzine level of ‘editorial’
Holyrood was effectively told to shut up after two outright riots, and the league, and its sponsor clamped.
Scottish football isn’t just victim of a swing it’s paralysed.
Ernie Glas in Gaelic means Green.
Al @ 2.42
P Gaelic is Pictish.
Pictland was north of the Central Belt.
That is north of the Antonine Wall.
Strathclyde spoke Welsh back in the day.
Brythonic would be its Sunday name.
The Belgiums are 1/4 to go through tonight, the huns are 14/1 to win 3-0.
We all know that they defy the odds in Europe, especially at Ibrox but they’re up against it tonight.
The pressure is going to be unbearable for them.
Tomorrow night is the Super Cup when they could have been playing Real Madrid in a meaningless game that would have netted them £3m for just turning up.
Hadrian’s Wall didn’t follow any existing political or cultural boundary, rather it established them.
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or much much much more likely, it was built in the shortest distance from one side of the land mass to the other.
He is just a low rent attention seeker to me .
On the lookout for a Reubaltach rouse..
Al @ 2.42
You are a bad / bad / bad man.
Pictish as in P-Celtic language is part of the Welsh / Brittonic language family.
Related / heavily related to Welsh not Irish.
The Picts spoke Welsh / the Scots spoke Gaelic.
Thanks for re-inforcing my point.