For close to two decades Celtic youth teams have dominated Scottish development leagues. We invest more in youth football than anyone else, we flood the Scottish leagues with graduates from our academy, and we harvest the occasional gem for the first team.
The current squad has Kieran Tierney, James Forrest, Callum McGregor, Eoghan O’Connell (who I think has a genuine chance) and Liam Henderson, who all made the step-up but for 40 years our record in maturing youth talent has been appalling.
Care to guess the last successful striker Celtic brought through the system?
Clubs who regularly finish behind Celtic in the youth league table produce far more first-team talent, some of whom Celtic pay money to sign later in their careers. What Dundee United, Hibs, Hamilton Accies and others can do, which Celtic have been reluctant to do, it blood young players in the first team early.
Celtic’s reasons for this are valid. They have championships to win every season, and even when that is a formality, dropping points to anyone is cause for a crisis. We do not have the most conducive environment for youthful endeavours.
In recent times we’ve tried to help players bridge the gap between youth football and the Celtic first team by sending them out on loan. Callum McGregor benefited from this but it’s hard to find evidence the strategy is delivering.
Celtic have wanted a ‘colts’ team for 50 years, a place where youthful talent can come up against the harsh environment of fully grown men. I know one chairman of a successful developer of youth players who believes that if they are not thoroughly exposed to ‘real’ football between the ages of 16 and 19 they will be lost to the game by 20.
Frustration at a perceived lack of progress kicks in, then unhelpful habits take over.
No one can say with any great conviction that a colts team will solve anything, but it might. For that reason, it’s worth trying.
Time is running out for orders of books and DVDs for Christmas from the CQN Bookstore. We’ve a great range of new and classic titles, fill your boots!
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DD 10.14
I have told her she has already been, her mother was 5mths pregnant when we went to the Phil O’donnell game, stuff that restaurant stuff if she goes it will be in the supporters bus, and a burger outside the stadium, unlike her father he dogged the train to Carntyne as a wee bhoy then nicked on the Phil Coles bus back to the brig
As for Dallas, definitely one of the best, speak to him every other day about all things Celtic, I think one of your first posts to me was about his green St Al blazer reminiscent of Tommy B :-) am off till the 28/12 so hopefully I can get away with mentioning that
DD
Doing good mucker
NOS Alive in Lisbon is the one i am looking at if i am allowed
Love
BhoyfromSky on 19th December 2016 8:14 pm
Can any of the Res 12 guys please advise the definitive position of the Celtic board….. have you been told that they will not be taking Res 12 forward? And that it is now at an end… or…. as the chairman indicated at the agm, they are considering all the NEW facts provided and, I assume, discussed at the recent meeting of board and Res 12 guys…
We have all been very very patient for too long now we need to know if it is finished or still a progressing… if it is the former we need to DEMAND a statement from the board to that affect….failing that I and I would encourage all other shareholders to write to The Chairman demanding an answer…..
We all at least can decide as individually and collectively what action we might wish to take to let these custodians know we will not be taken for second class mugs …..I note on etims that apparently the board members attending were disrespectful to the Res 12 guys, is that the case ? If so it is absolutely shocking and beneath contempt …. “who are these people we demand to know”
Apologies for the rant but please can I have answers to put me out of my misery and can get on with life ……HH
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The top questions for me going into the meeting as a result of what happened from end October through the AGM and after, which included circulation of Activity and Conclusions from the activity to signatories and Celtic and a one to one meeting with Celtic about the process and another preparation one meeting between three requistitioners were:
1. Are Celtic going to take this forward?
2. If not, why not?
then
3. How will they let their shareholders know of their reasons? (Its not our job, Celtic gave their reasons not to adopt Res12 in the Official AGM Report in 2013 (it was unnecessary) will they wait until next AGM to do same and justify or will they put out a statement now?.
If they are going to take it forward (UEFA/SFA have made it clear they will only deal with Celtic so they must take the lead.)
4. Do they accept that based on what has come to light not just about behaviour in 2011 but in SFA response to public and private questions since that there is serious deception at play by one or both parties?
5. Do they propose to address those issues arising since 2011?
6. Which ones?
7. What are their proposals for taking matters forward?
8. Will those proposals be perceived as a definite commitment or as more delaying tactic?
9. What commitment assurance can they give that will avoid the latter?.
Key to accepting there was a genuine commitment was some indication of a willingness to base decisions to take matters forward or not on a readiness to use all the information provided no matter its source, especially as the provenance issue that excludes it can be overcome by involving the CFCB or will disappear after the justice system has run its course.
I did not see that indication emerging although it still might.
TSOAL
The joy of divorce is that I am allowed to do what I want, when I want now. ;)
Peace and Love
DD
Might apply for a monthly one
LOL
Auldheid
You and the other 3 bhoys efforts are much appreciated, some of my posts might sound like “who cares just get in with it” trust me that is far from the truth, I do think very few Celtic fans are aware or care about the Res12….. But it’s much appreciated by the ones who do know
Keep it lit
TSOAL
Naw mate. That would be you on a slippery slope.
Stick, I twisted and regret it in many ways.
Gutted with this news,but not really surprised.CQN,does not speak for the vast majority of Celtic fans,much as some would like to think.As we know,so many have no idea about Res 12,or dont want to.
Some on here can wail and gnash their teeth at the fact that a great majority of the support,just want to see Celtic pumping the Monkeys,and winning as much as possible.Indeed,when I was younger,and my father,God rest him,would be railing against the Kelly board,I never gave a hoot.The amount of STs sold this season should give you an inkling of what the majority of fans want.A winning team,and a pumping of whatever mob come out of the Southside.We have a successful season,and the same amount will be sold next year.
Its just the way it is.
Before I hit my cot I think Brendan is at it, will probably be full strength team the morra night, Leigh the goalscorer Griffiths to continue what he does best
Fellow Celtic fans good night and God bless
Macjay if you find out the score before me can you let me know :-)
Turkeybhoy 10.51pm
You are not in a good place……….that’s my thinking, not good thinking the same as me :-)
Sleep well fellow Celtic fans
Turkey
Some things will never change.
Great song btw. :)
Turkey
Bruce Hornsby and the Range CSC
Jist wait until his mother sees the state of his room…thanks to “Scoop @Saorsayabass ” on twitter for this one.
This is how you should celebrate winning three in a row
http://alturl.com/5m534
Hail Hail
Matt
Matt
That was him celebrating getting scudded by Russians in Manchester.
Lennybhoy 9:17 Twist n’Turns 9:34 – Both very much spot on.
Canamalar- Whatever you do, whatever you say, your head can remain held high, very high. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.
GERRYFAETHEBRIG on 19TH DECEMBER 2016 10:52 PM
Before I hit my cot I think Brendan is at it, will probably be full strength team the morra night, Leigh the goalscorer Griffiths to continue what he does best
Fellow Celtic fans good night and God bless
Macjay if you find out the score before me can you let me know :-)
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Can let you know now if you want.
:-)
Macjay
I think we will surpass our recent Firhill victory with a 4-0 win tomorrow.
“That’s just the way it is.”
Is it?
Just as well that wasn’t the mantra in 1994.
On this blog over the last few years we’ve been told we don’t need the part of Celtic that relies on Rangers.
That titles would be stripped. That changes in the SFA were inevitable.
Meanwhile Celtic PLC have rubbed their chin .
5 way agreement. Check.
LNS enquiry. Check.
Continuity myth . Check.
Silence . Check.
It’s all about the blue pound and the green pound.
I might be wrong but Paul 67 has possibly been played like a fiddle, as much as the rest of us on CQN. After all , this site , E Tims etc are only a small part of a larger picture. Most fans are happy with Celtic being dominant , and the huns being shite.
Thanks to the gang of 4 . Credit where it’s due.
You’ve exposed hypocrisy where we thought there was sport.
Sincerely hope I’m wrong. HH
Celtic Squad App v Patrick Thistle
8 Games 6 Shut Outs Craig Gordon
9 Games 1 Goals Emilio Izaguirre
8 Games 0 Goals Scott Brown
8 Games 0 Goals Nir Bitton
7 Games 5 Goals Leigh Griffiths
7 Games 3 Goals Kris Commons
6 Games 2 Goals Callum McGregor
6 Games 1 Goals Gary MacKay Steven
6 Games 0 Goals Efe Ambrose
6 Games 0 Goals Mikael Lustig
5 Games 3 Goals Stuart Armstrong
3 Games 1 Goals Tom Rogic
3 Games 1 Goals Liam Henderson
3 Games 0 Goals James Forrest
2 Games 0 Goals Kieran Tierney
2 Games 0 Goals Erik Sviatchenko
1 Games 0 Goals Dedryck Boyata
1 Games 0 Goals Patrick Roberts
1 Games 0 Goals Moussa Denbele
1 Games 0 Goals Jozo Simunovic
1 Games 0 Goals Nadir Ciftci
1 Games 0 Goals Ryan Christie
1 Games 0 Goals Cristian Gamboa
DELANEYS DUNKY on 19TH DECEMBER 2016 11:31 PM
Macjay
I think we will surpass our recent Firhill victory with a 4-0 win tomorrow.
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To be honest , mate ,
I have been expecting us to do that in our last couple of games ,where we scraped home ( in score terms ) , in spite of being utterly dominant.
Brendan has to deal with a significant injury list and frankly ,I hope he is husbanding resources meantime.
So that we achieve that score on New Years Eve.
Must tell you , I saw most of the last hun game.
They`ll give us a bit of a fight. Particularly at Ibrox.
Some would do well to remember that there was plenty of anxiety in the Celtic Board Room after the debacle against Sevco at Hampden last season.
Were there not concerns about Season Book Sales before Brendan’s appointment?
Did Phil Mac Giolla Bhain not allege one of the PLC’s Director’s stated ‘That will bankrupt Scottish football.’ When Mr Desmond listened to a report on Res 12 and related matters, during a board meeting?
The PLC that gave us two seasons of the unfortunate RD, the European exits, the penalties defeat by Sevco, are the same ones that appear to have shunned any attempt to clean up the regulation and administration of our game.
The pursuit of money at all costs is short sighted and history will not look favourably on those that have turned their back on the ethos of Celtic Football Club. In my opinion.
“Celtic is a club for everyone who believes in football as a medium for healthy pleasure, entertainment and social integration. The Club always has been and always will simply aim to be the team of the people.”
From the Celtic ‘Corporate’ Mission Statement
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Offshore Game Report, extract, November 16th 2016,
A FAILURE OF GOVERNANCE
“Today, Celtic will respond to shareholders at their AGM who believe the time has come to ask the UEFA, the European football authority to intervene in the licensing issue, but the matter of what to do about the failings of the original inquiry will be left unresolved.
This points to one of the many governance failures of football. Who can hold the football authorities to account? If a football association cannot be trusted to ensure fair play over issues as fundamental as the awarding of league titles, and investigating allegations of foul play, fans may as well give up and watch the wrestling instead.
With the parliamentary Culture, Media and Sport select committee now firmly focused on football governance, this could finally be the time for a long overdue, external intervention.”
Night all.
CLOGHER CELT on 20TH DECEMBER 2016 12:33 AM
“Celtic is a club for everyone who believes in football as a medium for healthy pleasure, entertainment and social integration. The Club always has been and always will simply aim to be the team of the people.”
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What would be seen as an attack on Rangers would conflict with the stated intention of ” social integration. ”
Viz. the aftermath of the Hibs cup final.
MACJAY1 FOR NEIL LENNON on 19TH DECEMBER 2016 8:43 PM
GERRYFAETHEBRIG on 19TH DECEMBER 2016 8:34 PM
I love your story about your nephew. Probably because I can identify.
My 14 y o moment was the loss to Jock Stein`s Dunfermline in the replayed Scottish Cup Final during our eight years in a row of failure to win anything.
*that was my 13 year old moment, 1st year at St Pats.
Good article on the Celtic Blog regarding the SMSM’s lack of due dilligence, or plain old bias, when it comes to reporting the omnishambles of all things Sevco, and in contrast to the scandalous treatment Celtic receive at their hands.
Gerryfaethebrig on 19th December 2016 10:36 pm
Auldheid
You and the other 3 bhoys efforts are much appreciated, some of my posts might sound like “who cares just get in with it” trust me that is far from the truth, I do think very few Celtic fans are aware or care about the Res12….. But it’s much appreciated by the ones who do know
Keep it lit
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No need to explain, your point was clear and valid from the outset as was your motive and thanks for the note of appreciation.
Auldhied, has there been a development on R12? I’ve not read back further than page 8. Have you been shat on by Celtic?
ACGR
You are going to have to start at page one starting with Canalamar to get a flavour of a number of thoughtful viewpoints.
abrdged version
they thought we thought and no one asked, we thought it was fundamental, turns out no-one asked, whats fundamental, stakeholder goals are rarely aligned, but you cant share goals if no one asks, so we are asking, WHY NOT ?
TONTINE TIM on 20TH DECEMBER 2016 1:13 AM
3rd year at the Wally Dishes.
Traumatic it was.
For us and all Tims who did the hard yards.
`GG probably.
I won`t get teary this time. :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLFAQCR4Qm8
Just dropping in to repost….
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MARGARET MCGILL on 19TH DECEMBER 2016 12:26 PM
Canamalar
Thank you very much for your prompt response. I always had a vain hope. I want to express my gratitude to you, BRTH, Auldheid and Morrissey who are undoubtedly amongst the greatest Celtic supporters in history.
This board are Tory hun scum.
Maybe Paul67 has something constructive to post but I doubt it.
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Worth reposting.
Thanks. I agree too. Spent many a year contributing on here till it changed. There are many posters I enjoy reading the sharp, intelligent, cutting humour of, I notice some are returning… occasionally. Fact is, the remarkable turn of events in Scottish Fitba, and Scottish Media, and Scottish law…. is a wee insight into the future.
It’s not personal, it’s just business.
But it is personal to me, and I suspect many others. In the tradition of the Night Shift of the past I will leave you with a thought and a song…
The microcosm of Scottish Fitba Dramas over the last few years is a reflection of what is being played out in the media, the banks, the courts and so called instititutions, but on a global scale.
RESPECT to Resolution 12 Bhoys.. and all supporting them.
In reality, you are tasting The Present and The Future, to paraphrase James Joyce….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cia_v4vxfE&sns=em
Four good men led up the garden path,at great cost to themselves in time,effort,finance.
Does it surprise me? Not really,but my lack of surprise doesn’t dilute my anger.
Celtic fans famously know their history. It seems our board might not have been paying much attention to that minor detail.
Throughout history,downfall and demise has not been brought about by an action or misdeed,but in covering it up. The logical next step is to uncover what our beloved custodians have to hide. If they have aided the enemies of our club,then they too are now the enemy of our club.
BMCUW,
One small flaw with you statement. I would guess the majority of Celtic fans don’t really know too much about Res12.
Different on CQN.
HH.
Winning Captains – Good morning D, did you get my message at the CQN Bookstore regards my order of last week? I appreciate that you must be inundated with orders etc at this time.
HH
Good morning CQN from a dull, cool, breezy But dry East Devon.
If true very disappointed about the outcome of Res12, the Gang of Four deserves so much more.
Without fear or favour
Meaningless words from our previous chairman
Good morning friends and Happy Real Glasgow Derby Day from a clear skied, cold and frosty East Kilbride.
BMCUWP
“If they have aided the enemies of our club,then they too are now the enemy of our club.”
Nail on head hit with pile driver sized hammer!
This will be my lasting living memory of our current PLC board. Absolute shower of cowards!!!
Worse than Huns in my view.
I DOUBT THERE IS MUCH OF AN “IF”.
Looking forward to reading all about in in one of Paul67’s articles…
MWD