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Colts and 40 years of appalling development

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For close to two decades Celtic youth teams have dominated Scottish development leagues. We invest more in youth football than anyone else, we flood the Scottish leagues with graduates from our academy, and we harvest the occasional gem for the first team.

The current squad has Kieran Tierney, James Forrest, Callum McGregor, Eoghan O’Connell (who I think has a genuine chance) and Liam Henderson, who all made the step-up but for 40 years our record in maturing youth talent has been appalling.

Care to guess the last successful striker Celtic brought through the system?

Clubs who regularly finish behind Celtic in the youth league table produce far more first-team talent, some of whom Celtic pay money to sign later in their careers. What Dundee United, Hibs, Hamilton Accies and others can do, which Celtic have been reluctant to do, it blood young players in the first team early.

Celtic’s reasons for this are valid. They have championships to win every season, and even when that is a formality, dropping points to anyone is cause for a crisis. We do not have the most conducive environment for youthful endeavours.

In recent times we’ve tried to help players bridge the gap between youth football and the Celtic first team by sending them out on loan. Callum McGregor benefited from this but it’s hard to find evidence the strategy is delivering.

Celtic have wanted a ‘colts’ team for 50 years, a place where youthful talent can come up against the harsh environment of fully grown men. I know one chairman of a successful developer of youth players who believes that if they are not thoroughly exposed to ‘real’ football between the ages of 16 and 19 they will be lost to the game by 20.

Frustration at a perceived lack of progress kicks in, then unhelpful habits take over.

No one can say with any great conviction that a colts team will solve anything, but it might. For that reason, it’s worth trying.

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  1. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    HAPPY HOOOOOOPY BIRTHDAY to

     

     

     

    BIG JIMMY!!!!!!

     

     

     

    Best of luck to Mrs JFH and KEVJ

  2. Good afternoon.

     

    Wonder if we will play a full strength team for our Glasgow derby tomorrow.

     

     

    Eurochamps67

     

     

    ChancetowatchthehoopsplaythisyearformeCSC

  3. DESSYBHOY on 19TH DECEMBER 2016 12:32 PM

     

    Paul 67

     

     

    Have you nothing to say on Res 12?

     

     

     

     

    Well we’re waiting Paul.

  4. TONYDONNELLY67 on 19TH DECEMBER 2016 12:35 PM

     

    BMCW

     

     

     

    I doubt if the board are trying to dupe anyone, the res. Is out there been out there for a while as the gang of 4 have been pushing it, I’m thinking along the lines of something outside the board and the gang of 4 pushing it, and I think there is more behind it than what we are being told, and only time will tell, maybe the board know more than they are telling the gang of 4 and that being in the interests of giving thems enough rope to hang themselfs, I don’t know? But I’m sticking with the board .

  5. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    I agree paul67,

     

     

    The Old Firm colts will inject a modicum of interest back into the Scottish game and hopefully allow for more Old Firm games. The bigotry and the sectarianism will also not be so XXX-rated at these games maybe jsut an 18.

     

     

    A great introduction for the kids to do their apprenticeship as wee bigot brothers and sisters and at cheaper rates. Not to be sneezed at.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    HH

  6. BUTSYBHOY on 19TH DECEMBER 2016 12:28 PM

     

    THETIMREAPER on 19TH DECEMBER 2016 10:41 AM

     

     

     

    No problem

     

     

    Can someone supply the above with my e-mail address please.

     

     

     

    HH

     

     

    —-

     

    I’ve asked Winnings for your email address.

  7. These pop up ads and videos are now ruining the best Celtic site on the net.

     

     

     

    Sometimes it’s just not worth the hassle.

  8. It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

     

    (T.Roosevelt)

     

     

    Persisistence beats Res12tance

  9. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    The board are restricted by football rules about bringing criminal proceeding against other football entities, that’s why the only authority with the power to fully investigate the matter was cited in the resolution. And why provenance is not as big an issue as the board would have everyone believe, the CFCB have rights to access all the relevant material and evidence from their sources.

     

     

     

    Provenance is a red herring the evidence is plentiful the board simply refuse to request the appropriate authority to investigate even after being invited to do so by both the SFA and UEFA and using that as the reason for doing so.

  10. James55

     

    I agree with the sentiment behind your post but CANAMALAR is one of those “who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; ” and he does not seem overly pleased with the Board`s response.

     

     

    JJ

  11. Having just posted as I did ( 12:53) I now realise that I am not really aware of what the Board have said (on RES 12) and when they said it. Anyone?

     

     

    JJ

  12. ‘Not Lazy Journalism’

     

     

    No Comment Paul67?

     

     

    Apart from,

     

     

    ‘Time is running out for orders of books and DVDs for Christmas from the CQN Bookstore. We’ve a great range of new and classic titles, fill your boots!’

     

     

    not a green centcsc

  13. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Clougher…,

     

    To be fair on P67 I expect this is his first update on the matter.

  14. JJ Hot Smoked,

     

     

    If you are waiting for a statement from the PLC you might be here for a while.

  15. Our board have left us all with a horrible decision to make, From victims to accomplices through inaction.

     

     

     

    gutted.csc

     

     

     

    KLV

  16. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Canamalar,

     

     

    You, Auldheid, BRTH, Morrisey23

     

     

    Walk away from this now.

     

     

    You have now got to the point where most of the support that can think for themselves expected you to arrive at. They are an Old Firm board. They are the biggest players within Scottish football and with the most to lose. Hence they have been proactive about the hun situation for decades.

     

     

    If you expose them any further then the attack dogs will be set upon you. Not that you may be intimidated by them but .. is it worth it ?

     

     

    It has been well stated on CQN by many of the zealouts that we are waiting on the resolution of the BTC and then DD will smite all before him. You and I know that is never going to happen and that we have a PLC that are only interested in profit and will blow smoke up our stupid collective asses as that is what they think of us.

     

     

    The problem with a civil action is that it is the hun that is at stake here and nobody – even if the PLC were inclined to do this – it will never win.

     

     

    You four guys are total superstars. You embody what Celtic is all about.

     

     

    Take the last advice I offer on this.

     

     

    Walk Away

     

     

    Stop giving them your money.

     

     

    if you do give them your money (do so less regularly) and with the full knowledge that CELTIC FC is exactly now where the board want us to be (apart from a more lucrative league) and nake sure your children are aware that it is just a rouse. That sectarianism and corruption is the corner stone of Scottish football and what it is premised on.

     

     

    There is much better football out there at no cost and no harm to the kids in embracing.

     

     

     

    Again to all four of you thank you for you efforts from the bottom of my heart.

     

     

    Chin upCSC

  17. Awe Naw

     

     

    “You have now got to the point where most of the support that can think for themselves expected you to arrive at. ”

     

     

    In terms of seats sold for our games, the ground is almost full for every game. Does that mean that the vast majority cannot think for themselves or that they can but still choose to go?

     

     

    JJ

  18. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    JJ…,

     

    The board have said it is a serious matter of governance and they are working with the res12 representatives, however the res12 representitatives feel the board are working against us. Working with, implies shared goals, strategies and information, all of which has been a one way street. To date the res12 representitatives do not know the boards strategy or goals, information previously requested from them as far back as two years ago has still not been shared, so you can maybe understand the growing lack of trust and frustration.

  19. It would appear money talks and only money matters, I was holding out and hoping that this board would lead our club with integrity. does not seem to be the case despite the evidence gathered by the requisitioners who I am grateful to, if they wont act on this what else will they turn a blind eye to?

  20. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    HOT Smoked,

     

     

    a bit of both actually. If you do not suspend your sense of reasoning and abduction ..which youvae to for any rigid belief then abject stupid ignorance is more prevalent amongst the support than the WWF fraternity. A thesis for some Glasgow student in thirty years I would imagine

     

     

    The board bought a lot of goodwill in the summer by blowing smoke up our asses about announcements etc.

     

     

    It never materialised.

     

     

    I bet if they could get the BTC decision to d´be delayed until after ST renewal they would put the money in that brown envelope already.

     

     

    If BR gets a decent budget this January window I hope he is on the phone immediately to thr Resolution four thanking them

     

     

    HH

  21. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    If you do not suspend your sense of reasoning and abduction ..which you have to for any rigid belief, then abject stupid ignorance is more prevalent amongst the support than the WWF fraternity. A thesis for some Glasgow student in thirty years I would imagine

  22. Well done and thanks for everything, Our 4 wise men. We all want the truth but the truth is too expensive it would seem for our board, hate will out sell morals i’m afraid and the board know it.

     

     

    thebigotpoundhaswon. csc

     

     

     

    KLV

  23. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo

     

     

    …abject stupid ignorance is more prevalent amongst the support than the WWF fraternity…

     

     

    ————————————————————————————-

     

     

    Styoopit pandas.

     

     

    ;)

  24. I suppose a lot will depend on what you deem to be a successful striker but I’m guessing Gerry Creaney is the last one to come through the set up.

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