For close to two decades Celtic youth teams have dominated Scottish development leagues. We invest more in youth football than anyone else, we flood the Scottish leagues with graduates from our academy, and we harvest the occasional gem for the first team.
The current squad has Kieran Tierney, James Forrest, Callum McGregor, Eoghan O’Connell (who I think has a genuine chance) and Liam Henderson, who all made the step-up but for 40 years our record in maturing youth talent has been appalling.
Care to guess the last successful striker Celtic brought through the system?
Clubs who regularly finish behind Celtic in the youth league table produce far more first-team talent, some of whom Celtic pay money to sign later in their careers. What Dundee United, Hibs, Hamilton Accies and others can do, which Celtic have been reluctant to do, it blood young players in the first team early.
Celtic’s reasons for this are valid. They have championships to win every season, and even when that is a formality, dropping points to anyone is cause for a crisis. We do not have the most conducive environment for youthful endeavours.
In recent times we’ve tried to help players bridge the gap between youth football and the Celtic first team by sending them out on loan. Callum McGregor benefited from this but it’s hard to find evidence the strategy is delivering.
Celtic have wanted a ‘colts’ team for 50 years, a place where youthful talent can come up against the harsh environment of fully grown men. I know one chairman of a successful developer of youth players who believes that if they are not thoroughly exposed to ‘real’ football between the ages of 16 and 19 they will be lost to the game by 20.
Frustration at a perceived lack of progress kicks in, then unhelpful habits take over.
No one can say with any great conviction that a colts team will solve anything, but it might. For that reason, it’s worth trying.
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AWENAW
Indeed. And therein lies a major problem.
Do you refuse refuge in case a bad apple/murderous bastard sneaks in too?
Not an easy one. In fact,I doubt that there is a solution,never mind an easy one.
We can be vigilant,of course. But how do you regulate for a lorry ploughing into a market?
BMCUWP
you can´t until you wean people off their false gods. Every single one of them
HH
MING
My thoughts exactly. All the lower-league teams knew they were more deserving of that place,they said nothing.
That they are correct-and vocal-now just amplifies their previous silence.
Btw,I’ll bet that if Third Rangers need a place the silence will again be deafening.
MorningofmixedmetaphorsCSC
AWENAW
Religion is the worst thing God ever invented.
https://johnjamessite.com/2016/12/20/encounters-of-the-blue-kind/
Horribly wet ,windy and cold -way down south .
Off oot for a flight to Rome and a connection to New York .
Brief skype chat with my Glasgow residing brother – tells me that yesterday’s work Christmas do featured some Resolution 12 chat and a posh seat Season Ticket holder opining that — ” go if you want, dont go if you want but for —- sake stop being being so —- pious about it ” .
My Arsenal season ticket / PTFC fan son’s response to the Res 12 ” news ” – ” Old Firm business “.
Early – but -needs must — Merry Christmas Everybody .!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Summa,
I have had Celtic TV here for 4 years and really have had few problems with it.My Internet is not the best,so sometimes I have no idea if any problems come from that,or CTV itself.Now and again it will be a bit sticky,but on the whole,I have to say it is OK.
Date: 9th December 2016 at 7:24am Written by: Joe McHugh
Neil Doncaster has been booted off the board of the EPFL.
The highly influential European Professional Football League body is the main way for leagues to communicate with UEFA on matters such as reform of the European competitions.
Recently the EPFL have expressed their opposition to plans to give the top four clubs from the four leading nations automatic places in the group stage of the Champions League.
Doncaster was voted onto the board for the 2013-2016 cycle but clearly made little impression on his European counterparts with the chairman and vice chairman coming from the Swedish and Danish leagues.
Will be interesting to see if the Colts are formed as part of a different company.
I bet they are.
HH
For what it’s worth, I believe that the good people behind res 12 made their big mistake in allowing the board to “shelve” the proposal at the agm, 3 years ago. That tactic has now turned into a saga that will eventually become part of the Celtic story future generations will look back at, wondering what might have been. The requisitioners have been misled and whilst I commend them for their efforts, I’m sure that they would wish to have pursued res 12 in a slightly different way. The board and the supporters may have similar aims regarding Celtic’s success but their respective agendas are quite different. I’d like to wish all Celtic fans, everywhere, a happy Christmas and hope we all enjoy the successful football season this looks like being .
embramike
I do not think it is Doncaster they want to distance themselves from but the corrupt SPFL.
HH
Celts on BT or sky tonight ?
I’m wondering what odds you would get on young Calvin scoring anytime in tonight’s game?
I don’t think the games on TV tonight?
Re res 12 I have yet to see anything definitive telling me the Board will not support this. Apologies to the four if I have missed this.
Notwithstanding that , and I am no lawyer, as I understand it the resolution has been carried forward from one agm to the next. Does that not mean the Board are duty bound to formally deal with the resolution and if they want it defeated, put it to a vote.
Writing this more for information than anything.
As another poster on here has said I can only admire the time effort and committment of the four and my thanks to them.
HH
LMCBHOY
Next AGM,Res 12 will be a mere footnote.
“Following intensive investigations,no action…” etc.
Vote. Board carries. Trebles all round.
PROUDBHOY on 20TH DECEMBER 2016 10:45 AM
Celts on BT or sky tonight ?
No
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Personally I would say Football was far more ‘Rigged’ in the 60’s than it is Now..
UEFA.. Referees.. Italian Club were the Worst..
It was Not Just because Jock Steins Teams were the Best by Far in Europe.. it was because the went through to the Final Under the Radar..
The Italians Totally Underestimated Celtic FC and Especially Jock Stein..
If they Didn’t we might Not have been Allowed to ‘Win’ the 1967 European Cup.. or maybe this is why we are Not Double Winners..????
Hmmmm..
Summa
Ps.. Football in every Country and in Every League is Corrupt.. It’s just about to what Level.. The Brown Paper Bag has Just been Replaced..
SOUTHOFTUNIS
I hope your brother nutted the git from the posh seats.
Then told him to complain if he wanted to,or not. Just stop being so pious about it.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
LMCBHOY
Next AGM,Res 12 will be a mere footnote.
“Following intensive investigations,no action…” etc.
Vote. Board carries. Trebles all round.
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Jeez, talk about spoiler alert!! ;)
Didn’t think so .. annoying that barely any home games are not on TV.
For us far away fans anyway.
DAVIDOPOULOS
I hope and pray it is as accurate as my predictions on a betting slip.
I’m bound to get something right eventually;knowing my luck,that’s it!
PROUDBHOY
I think each club is guaranteed a certain number of home games live on TV per season. That means most of our away games are covered,but the home ones aren’t.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
It would take a monumental amount of faith to predict otherwise.
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Awe Naw..
‘ What other parent is going to volunteer their children and grand children to take part in this facade for (perceived occasional glory) knowing that they are going to be discriminated against but this time by their own club and only for profits. ‘
My First ever Celtic FC game was to be European Cup Celtic Vs Leeds Utd Semi Final played at Hampden being taken by My Grandad who I’m called after..
He told my Mum is was going to be far to busy for me so Just took my Older Cousin.. and would take me to the Next Home game..
He Died a Week or so Later..
You might know my Dad is and always has been a Season Ticket Holder at Ibrox..
He has Never Ever even Once told me I should Not Support Celtic FC and Never would do as even at 9yrs I had my Own Mind.. Still have Funny enough..
Jock Steins Family probably thought they had good reasons for telling him Not to go Anywhere Near Celtic FC.. wonder how that went.. 【ツ】
I really don’t understand what You are Trying to tell People.. Really Don’t..???
Summa
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 20TH DECEMBER 2016 10:32 AM
MING
My thoughts exactly. All the lower-league teams knew they were more deserving of that place,they said nothing.
That they are correct-and vocal-now just amplifies their previous silence.
Btw,I’ll bet that if Third Rangers need a place the silence will again be deafening.
MorningofmixedmetaphorsCSC
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They have already changed the rulebook
Third Rangers will be straight into the top division and there is nothing we can do.
TIMALOY29
Refresh my memory on that,please.
Reinforces my thoughts overnight about enemies of our club,IIRC.
BMCUW- this wee latin phrase covers Res12;
causa latet, vis est notissima
Translates as – the cause is hidden, but the result is well known.
Apt methinks.
BMCUW .
My brother’s days of nutting people have long gone ( just like mine ) but he does do a great Yoda smile . My brother goes to away games . He hasn’t been to a home game since Dr Death was allowed to shame The Hoops .
Got to fly —
The affirmation of what Celtic’s stance is was the final straw.
It was there staring at us, a lot of us just didn’t want to recognise it.
Now it’s shouting loudly telling us roll up and pay…..your last dime.
Think that’s how the Penny Arcade goes ?
Are we so shallow that we will mimic them in following a hollow facade ?
Surely, not, but at this time, our silence is deafening.
Why all the angst about Res 12?
Did anyone honestly think that it would end any other way?
If our Board and major shareholders are happy to get stiffed, who are we to complain.
The game was up as soon as the huns took the field against Brechin, everyone in Scottish football stood back and laughed as they did and here we are four years later a Celtic house divided, we suffered all through their cheating and we are still suffering after their cheating was announced.
Res 12 was our hope that somehow the SFA could be brought to book and reformed and we would all skip like little hooped lambs into a bright new future alas it seems no one at our club wants to be part of what needs to take place.
And when all is said and done what the feck does Scottish football have to offer the world, a gravy train for incompetent placemen and back room deals to keep “the gemme” alive and let’s face it ten years ago most of us would have gone anywhere in the world and told other football fans we have the greatest club game in the world.
Celtic boards have come and gone and come and gone in my five decades as a Celtic supporter, made no difference to me who they were or the job they done until we were on the brink of extinction and now again here we stand at the brink of extinction, not financial extinction but a deeper kind of extinction of the Soul of the club and we can shout all day long about masons and torys and any other bogeyman you want to stick up there but the fact is from the many Tims back home I’ve spoken to they don’t give a shit about justice or the SFA they just happy enough to be humping the huns once more.
And where was I the last derby game, glued to my computer watching so I am complicit in the scam, my celebrations hollow as I know it’s a scam.
People vote with their feet and the board know this to a tee.
A sold out Celtic Park for the Sevco game is all they need to know to continue the same deaf dumb and blind policy they have towards the game.
We the Celtic Family were always going to pay the biggest fine of all for the hun machines machinations.
I’m still hoping against hope that something will be done about the game but corruption is lauded all over the world why would our wee part of it be any different.
To the Resolution 12 Bhoys thank you, you took a stand and invested your hearts and souls and minds into this fight and I hope that somehow you will find resolution for yourselves if nothing else.
The last four years have seen my support of Celtic undermined by a gnawing sensation in my gut that we would do nothing, I remained optimistic as that is my natural state!! but reading back this morning I have that same feeling in the morning when you wake up hoping against hope that you didn’t spend your whole wages in one weekend:))
SP
My late father ran the Tradeston Rosebud bus for years.He and most of his mates hated the Kelly Board with a vengeance.His rage was terrible after the 1963 Cup final replay,when Jinky was dropped to play newly signed,Bobby Craig,who my father said was suffering from Ulcers !!!!!!!.He hated them for the way they treated Jimmy Mc Grory,how they would never speak out against the sectarianism at Ibrox,or the blatant cheating of Referees.He still never missed a game,because,as he drummed into me,the Celtic support had always been the reason we were never trampled underfoot by the Huns.We were the only ones who faced them down.Although he was at Mass every Sunday,he had little time for the Holy Wullies who meekly accepted their idea of supremacy.The “Oh,let them have their Walks”mob.
He would turn in his grave if he ever thought I had turned my back on Celtic.I could never contemplate it,because of some transient Board,that will eventually be replaced.He never did.I wont,neither will my kids and Grandkids who stand with the GB every week.
BMCUW- FYI the home game v Hearts has been moved to Sunday 29 Jan 1pm ko….
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I’m only just reading Re; Res 12 but it was never going to change my Love for Celtic FC
Same I choose Not to read the so Called ‘5 way Agreement’ as something that was posted on the World Wide Web.. glad I Never when I Now see People turn on Celtic and Celtic supporters because of it.. and at the same time say they ‘Think’ Celtic FC wrote it..
It will be Conspiracy theory’s next.. 【ツ】
Summa of ReadingThewwwCanSeriouslyDamageYourMentalHealthMeThinksCSC
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‘ He would turn in his grave if he ever thought I had turned my back on Celtic.I could never contemplate it,because of some transient Board,that will eventually be replaced.He never did.I wont,neither will my kids and Grandkids who stand with the GB every week. ‘
Well said.. Especially the last line.. KTF as they Say..
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Above to TurkeyBhoy
You can still support Celtic and not give them your money. That’s what I do. Now more than ever. Paying for this farce is for sheep.