Competitive but results tell the whole story


Midway through the second half, I chastised myself for being so downbeat about our prospects last night.  For 81 minutes, the game was there to be won.  Neither team was at full strength, but if Celtic had a little of Maeda’s industry, or Hatate’s control, the outcome could have been different.

As it was, the game turned when Lazio benefited from a late deflection.  It officially brought to an end hopes of Europa League games after Christmas, but those surely did not exist after Lazio scored a last-minute winner at Celtic Park earlier in the campaign.

Being competitive, as we were twice against Lazio, once against Atletico and while we had 11 men away to Feyenoord, is our Champions League stake in the ground so far this season.  The results, however, tell a story of defensive fragility, and an inability to create a sufficient volume of chances to make sure we are the team who benefits from a late deflection.

Paulo Bernardo was a surprise starter and should feel pleased with his contribution.  I suspect there is a player in him, but he will need a run of games in the team if we are to properly develop his talent.

He can look to Liam Scales, who is the left-sided central defender practically every team is looking for.  Against St Johnstone earlier this season, Liam looked miles short of a player who could deliver a shift away from home in the Champions League.  Game time and the correct coaching changed that.  This is our place in the world: find talent and realise its potential.  There is no other sustainable model for Celtic.

A lot more rides on the Feyenoord game than the table suggests.  For so many reasons, nothing less than a win against the Dutch champions will do.

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  1. PeterLatchfordsBelly on

    Even McGowan has had it with Lawwell’s ‘sustainable model’ con.



    I see that whirling dervish Alan Morrison has said giving Rodgers players like Yang to manage us equivalent to putting Ancelotti in charge of Rotherham.



    It’s the same old Lawwell con the Ange period apart. And the same old suckers are buying.

  2. PeterLatchfordsBelly on

    Burnley dialling it in again from the Conservative club…



    No certainties in football – if you exclude Celtic clamping down the biscuit tin, paying the fat cats through the nose (your money btw) and getting serially pumped in Europe.



    Those aside, there are no certainties in football. 😂😂😂






    Good evening, friends.


    Firstly, a wee general announcement that from now on the voting will close at 9.00pm (1 hour earlier than before) on the evening following each game. I occasionally have some very early morning grandparenting issues so it’s easier setting this new deadline for all games. Results will usually then be out around 9.30pm. And now on to yesterday’s match.


    We weren’t too high on confidence going into the game and most of us were probably expecting a defeat. But after surviving a couple of first half minor scares, I thought we grew in confidence and certainly deserved to be level at the break. Things got even better in the 2nd 45 as we got quicker with our forward passes and got a better hold of the midfield. Plus, they were making even more unforced errors than we were. We get to 80 minutes, and I began to think back to our home game against them and that ‘stick or twist’ decision that ultimately cost us the points. It was different this time obviously as we already knew that a draw was no use to us, But, just as I was shouting at my TV “10 to go, just go for it!” another moment of deflation arrived when a deflected attempt landed at Immobile’s feet and Lazio took the lead. A few minutes later and our failure to be a bit stronger in the challenge saw Lazio double their lead.


    In stoppage time it looked as though we were being given a penalty for a 2 handed push on Oh. It wouldn’t have made any difference to the result. But it would have been some slight consolation for me as my 4-game Champions League accumulator included “Lazio v Celtic over 2.5 goals”!! I may have mentioned before but I really do hate what VAR has done to the beautiful game. And, yes, my other 3 results came up….


    We have now played 20 games, winning 11, drawing 4 and losing 5 with 38 goals scored and 23 conceded.


    My thanks to the hardy, faithful gang of 43 who took time to vote. Maybe I should give some thought to changing the format – a bad result and you nominate your 3 worst culprits and the worst 5 get negative points! That’s a joke, by the way.


    The total votes cast for each player are as follows, with my own nominations asterisked. You may notice that someone only cast 2 votes; actually they didn’t but failed to specify which Johnston!



    Hart*: 4


    Johnston, A: 12


    Carter-Vickers*: 32


    Scales: 19


    Taylor: 3


    McGregor*: 15


    Bernardo: 20


    O’Riley: 11


    Yang: 3


    Kyogo: 1


    Forrest: 0


    Johnston, M: 5


    Oh: 3


    Turnbull: 0



    And so, the players receiving POINTS for the game against Lazio are –


    Carter-Vickers – 5 points


    Bernardo – 4 points


    Scales – 3 points


    McGregor – 2 points


    Johnston, A – 1 point



    The overall positions after 20 games played are –


    56 points – Scales


    50 points – O’Riley


    26 points – Carter-Vickers


    21 points – McGregor


    19 points – Kyogo and Palma


    18 points – Maeda


    16 points – Yang


    12 points – Johnston, A


    11 points – Oh


    9 points – Nawrocki and Turnbull


    8 points – Hart


    6 points – Lagerbielke and Taylor


    5 points – Hatate and Ralston


    4 points – Bain and Bernardo


    1 point – Forrest and Holm


    0 points – Abada, Bernabei, Haksabanovic, Iwata, Johnston M, Phillips, Starfelt, Tilio and Welsh





    The Player Of The Month award is based simply on the total votes received across all games played. There were 6 games during November (we won 3 of them!) – St Mirren, Ross County, Atletico, Aberdeen, Motherwell and Lazio. In 3rd place with 149 votes is Hyunjun Yang and the runner up on 188 votes is Luis Palma (who may well have won had he not been suspended for last night’s game). And November’s Player Of The Month with 191 votes is Liam Scales.


    So far the monthly winners have been –


    August: Kyogo (4 games, 164 votes, average 41)


    September: O’Riley (5 games, 259 votes, average 52)


    October: Scales (5 games, 243 votes, average 49)


    November: Scales (6 games, 191 votes, average 32)



    It’s back to league business and a visit to Perth to take on St Johnstone on Sunday with a high noon kick off and a chance to open up an 11 point lead.


    Hail Hail!

  4. We dont need to lay out more cash for Brendan to mismanage it then make out that it wasnt him who spent it just to lay the Hansel & Gretal bread crumbs trail for his (poor wee me) departure sly dog that he is, but only as sly as sleeping at the wheel Tims allow him to be, PLC ditto.



    Martin O`Neill and Neil Lennon were Irish 6 counties fighting dogs.



    Brendan Rodgers from the 6 counties is a permanently tanned, multi millionaire property tycoon or landed gentry, £50,000+ per week for making Celtic look muggable in the SPFL, even the dugs in the streets are rolling about LTAO!



    Any good manager could utilise the present Celtic playing squad into a reputable force, the players are already there, but, with a manager who knows how to use different tactical approches and not a planted PLC sleekit who`ll whine about not being the guy who signed the cheques for these players when it goes Pete Tong, then things could and should be different but this is old firm management thats going on!



    How about Brendan, PLC, whoever, speaking straight to the fans as opposed to digging tunnels underneath them?



    How about in the CL / EL / CL playing 1 – 5 – 5 and kicking the ball into the stand when it comes near us?



    Any Uefa geek or journo asking what that was about?



    Tell them we are playing teams were one of they`re players is worth more than the entire Scottish game put together and none of you geeks or journos are interested on those kind of odds so we were just rationalizing, thats it.



    Why hasn`t Brendan or any of his sheep players not stood up for the Green Brigade?



    Yes the players are sheep because they are managed by a sheep who sucks the PLC narrative, because they are at a club that acts like a sheep from the top down – only when it suits them, only when prodded by the scum media do they spring into action by banning their own fans because the PLC know that “Comrades All etc…” died with the Jungle in 1994 and 2,000+ Green Brigade will be isolated by the succulent 57,000+ who`ll keep financing the PLC no matter the levels of PLC corruption!



    And on and on and on…..




  5. We are in danger of turning fans off with continual poor performances in European football and boring domestic performances


    If fans lose interest then we are really in trouble. ( I actually know ST holders who didn’t bother tuning in last night because of the inevitability of our result )



    We must address this and there are couple of ways to stimulate interest.



    Play entertaining football in all our domestic games with two strikers. Cut out the ultra boring side and back passing with no end product. Given the disparity in Scottish football we can do this.


    Referees must also play their part to make Scottish football more entertaining by hammering blatent time wasting.



    Spend some money to enhance the match day experience. Make games at Parkhead an enjoyable occasion. Ensure supporters want to go to our game and more importantly keep coming back.



    Two simple achievable targets to stimulate fans interest while our scouts, management and coaches explore a more suitable and sustainable business model.




  6. Bankiebhoy



    Turning page,an ad replaces page,look for top right and click on in and page you clicked should come on.



    Some sort of update over weekend means it is hard navigating.


    Hope all good in Corcaigh




  7. another night of disappointment last night to be honest thought it was a poor game between two average sides


    not much to choose between them till a bit of class and luck went the way of the nasty mob


    watched some decent football tonight Galatasaray v united and Madrid v Napoli but no idea how we can possibly bridge that financial chasm


    on to Perth and hopefully back to winning ways on the road to another championship


    only thought on our recruitment structure is the present strategy of buying in bulk in hoping some gem turns up seems to bring more problems regarding wages and trying to get players moving on than solutions

  8. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    BANKIEBHOY1 on 29TH NOVEMBER 2023 9:41 PM


    Is anybody else having difficulty going from one blog page to the next?

  9. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Cheers BB – short answer … No.



    But I am experiencing deja vu …



    …. with some posters expressing the exact same opinions in every post they’ve written in the last five years.

  10. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Anyone else on here suspect that if G Fearon and 418 shared a meal for one ….



    … neither would still feel hungry afterward?

  11. Prestonpans bhoys on

    Interesting comment from Calmac



    Callum McGregor has urged the Celtic board to back Brendan Rodgers’ January upgrade and accelerate the Hoops’ drive up the levels.

  12. BRs comments re quality especially up front….


    Should we be expecting more quality, with at least some success in Europe, either as a player or manager, in the managers chair ?

  13. I’m glad my rare posts annoy some on here. No doubt you are the type of people i would throw an anchor at if i had the good fortune to come across you whilst drowning.

  14. Simeone said that Ange’s side would have gubbed that mob last night well apart fae Jota and starman, who may have flattered to deceive, that was for the most part Ange’s side out there ok

  15. Just keep winning domestically Celtic …the rest is dreamland when you operate in the environment you do …maybe one day we will get a board with ambition ..similar to the fans and we will vacate this space ..move on and truly prosper..Hail Hail …Ps I hope our sleepy custodians are keeping an eye on the transfer market and our looming January strikers crisis !!?🤔

  16. Spikeys




    Ye can do or say anythin you like when an anonymous typing warrior.



    Btw seen the pics of John Fallon today in Rome with Papa Francesco,superb🙏👏👏




  17. STANLEY SCEPTRE on 29TH NOVEMBER 2023 10:32 PM



    From ATs post at 1.28pm – a certain Connaire12 is in the audience 😉



    Thank you for that.He is indeed,hope to hear of it once on again






  18. Good morning all from a very chilly -4 Garngad.



    Lets now concentrate on the League and cup double.



    We need our wide men to be going at and by the last man.


    We need our midfield to be ssing the runs from Kyogo and feed him.


    We need our defence to get the ball forward quicker.



    Much to do. Lets get to work Celtic Come on.



    The away atmosphere of our own support should help when its a war of attrition, unfortunatley our Board (sack them all) have taken away our 12th man at home.



    BOARD = Bunch Of Ar$€#@[£s Rangers Daft.


    Everyone should be sacked for failure in in backing our manager and helping him prepare for europe and the season ahead.



    Have a nice day yall.



    D :)

  19. With new Howlin’ Eejits appearing on here at least we can take consolation in knowing that They are hurting bad enough to waste their time.



    Meanwhile the next chapter for us begins today/this weekend and looking forward. AN TEARMAN’s post @ 1.09am serves as a great reminder – those guys were truly legends in their own time, but our Club moved on and created new legends and as we hope and look for our current bhoys to step up, some of them will, some won’t and next year we will be looking for new heroes to buy in to our dreams.



    And every day we still wake up as Tims, thanks to our fathers and uncles and their fathers and uncles before them and we still dream. Sometimes those dreams are tarnished, sometimes they are broken and sometimes those dreams come true! And then we dream again.



    Apologies to the Howlin’ Eejits if that upsets you.



    Ave Ave

  20. Good Morning – Grand Day To Be A Tim…



    MNCELT @ 9:32 PM,



    “Can’t we drop into it from the CL, or has that been changed with the new format?



    There is no “dropping down” in the new format.



    This was pointed out umpteen times in the Summer transfer window.



    Before the window opened we knew we had UCL football this season.



    We also aimed to win the SPL this season, which means UCL football next season with NO Europa League.



    Europa League was NOT an option.



    That can be a frustrating element when debating on CQN and other such forums.



    The amount of posters that were stating we should be setting up as an Europa League side.






    The only chance we had to play Europa in the foreseeable future in June 2023, was to get third place in the UCL.



    The equivalent of a Pot 3 team, reasonably competitive in the UCL.



    Our loss in Rome has destroyed that chance.



    We will be bottom of the League



    If S. rangers win the SPLeague this season, then we can get Europa football next season.



    Yet strangely enough, many of the fholk who pine after the Europa League foootball for us will see S. rangers winning the League as a tragedy.



    Cognitive Dissonance in full flow.!?



    Hail Hail




    Not just fathers and uncles, but mothers, aunts and grandmothers.



    As a family club that is the way it should be.




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