I didn’t hear the scores of other games this weekend until today when I read a red card protest (remember the day Celtic fans gave birth to this concept?) occurred at Ibrox to demonstrate disapproval to any potential new owner who plans to liquidate Rangers.
It would be preferable to everyone if Rangers paid their bills, restoring a degree of dignity, although apparently no one is offering to do this. Publicly bidders for the club will all confirm their preference is to exit administration via a Creditors Voluntary Arrangement (CVA). Offering pennies in the pound for a company is unquestionably a great deal, for the buyer, but whoever is nominated as preferred bidder this week is likely to have a serious option to liquidate the club.
Demonising the liquidation option carries risks for Rangers fans. Short of raising considerably more money than they have thus far and paying their bills, there is little fan power can do right now. If liquidation is the best option for creditors it will happen, better to accept the reality of the situation. Whatever the resulting phoenix club is called, if the new owners inherit animosity from the start it will only diminish the potential of their new club.
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Final Woid..
The British I.R.S wull no tak the Low road.. in this
G.A. Matter.
It wull the Be High Road.. natch!
and , consequently, the G.A. wull be… fur the “High Jump”!
The Tax Gatherers cannot afford NOT TAE .. stand Firm..
and shall steadfastly refuse tae allow the Guilty Blue Belllies tae Slink aff , wi
a Minor Punishment..
It stands tae Reason .. that if.. they Granted the G.A. …. a Watered doon.. C.V.A. Thingmy…in Ma valued Opinion..
that wid be tantamount… tae bein’ a Minor Punishment fur a Terrible Crime.
and Lead Ithers tae Emulate the Ibrox Tax Dodgers..
Monkey see.. Monkey Do..
Right?
Of course, Ah am Right…
Ah always Am…
Kojo
Still Laughin’
Gotta Go..Joe.
Good Night Scotland
Good Night Ireland
Good Night Wales
Good Night England.
Good Night Canada
Good Night New Zealand
Good Night Australia
And
Good Night.. Isaac Benjamin.. Wherever you are..
Kojo
And. Yes..
Ah Am still . Laughin’
TET :- I understand the points you are making and from the story you told can understand why you feel the way you do, what happened to your boy was a disgrace and evil.
You mentioned I said I used to sing sectarian songs at Ibrox and I did, but as I said at the time I was a young teenager and as I started to question things in life (not just football related) it dawned on me that the blood I was singing about wasn’t from mythical abstract “fenien” but it was the people who lived up the stair, in the next close, pals I played football with and family members, so I came to the conclusion it was wrong and stopped.
btw I don’t use the word “fenien ” as an insult but to try and emphasise how my thought process changed at that stage in my life and to make clear what song we are talking about.
Like yourself I try not to hate and feel we all have far more in common than we have differences that seperate us.
I don’t expect this to change your views in any way but hope that you will consider that yes there are evil folk that follow Rangers but there are also folk who try not to be.
Yours in football
E.U
TET
Your book was by William Kotzwinkle, author of Doctor Rat and Walter the Farting Dog. Vonnegut is worth a read too.
TSD
Abe Lincoln said :-
“My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause.”
“Do the people of the South really entertain fears that a Republican administration would, directly, or indirectly, interfere with their slaves, or with them, about their slaves? If they do, I wish to assure you, as once a friend, and still, I hope, not an enemy, that there is no cause for such fears.”
“I repeat the declaration made a year ago, that ‘while I remain in my present position I shall not attempt to retract or modify the emancipation proclamation, nor shall I return to slavery any person who is free by the terms of that proclamation, or by any of the Acts of Congress.’ If the people should, by whatever mode or means, make it an Executive duty to re-enslave such persons, another, and not I, must be their instrument to perform it.”
The truth is rarely simple but it is often presented simplistically. I suspect I have read a lot more of Lincoln than you have heard about him.
Edward Ursus on 10 April, 2012 at 00:40 said:
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I don’t know you and have not been around on CQN long enough to know your background/history.
What made you decide to post on here in the past and why come back now?
(Question, not accusation :-))
AoW
SummaofSammi :- We all make posts we regret at times and on a blog with just text things can come across as harsher than we meant, my own reply probably falls into this. I look forward to disagreeing with you about football in the future.
All the best
E.U
The Exiled Tim
This stance on what makes a Rangers fan a Hun ?
Even with the good friends and family over all the years not
1 has answered me when asked
Do you sing the billy boys ?
And about killing Catholics and up to your knees in our blood
Do you sing about mr stein ?
Do you sing about Neil Lennon and ask him what it is like to live in fear ?
Do you sing about the famine and what all the Irish to go home ?
Everyone of them have sat in them stands at iPox .
Maybe they have sung along or not.
Some may say it was all banter and just some fun.
Edward could comment on his take on it ?
The way the majority of rangers fans behave make up Scotland’s shame and we will witness it again on the 29 April.
If ever I wanted something to die it is that bigoted club.
The rangers fans who sit in silence are as guilty as the vocal by there support by being there each and every week.
Right off to bed To Re live our superb league win.
Jam67
Summa of Sammi
I hope things are going ok with you. Your recent post will have caused us to have some concern for you.
I hope you realise that there are warm regards heading your way and I trust things will turn around for you.
g’night CQN
Art of War
Watched the Celtic Ragers game in the Smiddy.
I looked around for someone with AoW tattooed on their forehead, but couldn’t spot you.
Great atmosphere,nice bit of singing second half.
Just so’s you know where my head is at.
Was greatly influenced by a man called Lewis Grasic Gibbon, enough to put anyone off books for life :>)
Oh, and also a bloke called Carlos Casteneda,who wrote a few books, the first was the teachings of Don Juan, sort of stuck with me they did.
AoW :- I started posting on the blog way back when surfing the web I clicked a ling to an article on the late Mr Stein which led me to a post by Paul67.
I used a name that made sure folk knew I followed Rangers and got into some discussion with the folk who posted at the time.
I enjoyed debates on football and many subjects that had nothing to do with football and eventually met a few folk from the site in a very enjoyable night in Hamilton.
Over the past two to three year I got more involved in local football and attended senior games less and less but still lurked and made the occasional post, if Rangers beat Celtic or lifted a trophy I would come on and have a good natured dig, if Celtic were on top I thought it only fair to come on and take my lumps.
It was with that in mind I came on to pass on my congratulations on the league win and while some found it controversial many posts from folk I used to debate with made me realise how much I missed the patter, much of it from folk I have a huge respect for.
A couple of posts from tonight illustrate what I mean with Martin42 “Standing up for the champions” which was a sort of running joke between us at one point and a few posters mentioning Pablophanque who was someone I had a great admiration for.
There were other reasons, one being I hoped I could show another side to Rangers supporters and that we weren’t all haters.
The above is just a quick summation but I hope it gives a rough gist of what I mean.
Rascar Capac – Sorry i missed you mate! Would have been good to meet. I said to Pam on the door that a guy from CQN with your handle might turn up! :-)
I tend to stand beside the puggy as you walk in the door. Atmosphere was a bit surreal first half as you have alluded to.
I posted some pics on Saturday night and there’s one of me with a daft big green and gold hat on – looking a bit pished i must say. :-)
Will endeavour to catch up with you in future.
HH
Jam67 :- I have answered all those points at different times.
EU
Many thanks for your reply,and I mean that from the heart.
As I said, and sorry for repeating myself, it’s not the man whom I have a problem with.
It was also my daughter who suffered as did the young fella, he took it much worse than she did.
I don’t have to try not to hate, I just don’t, just the way I was brought up i’m afraid.
Take care and god bless.
Ed
We know you are not all haters, even the folk that want you to be.
TET
I would say that I do not hate huns, huns being the intolerant bigots that refuse to see me as a person of intrinsic value because of some lable they have attached to me to rationalise their hate.
But what I do hate is what they sometimes bring out in me because that (a hater) is not who I choose to be, and they act as a reminder of the distance I have still to travel to exercise the love of Christ. But even that is OK for they are the thorns that are part of the grand plan if you subscribe to the meanng of
2 Corinthians 12:7-10
New International Version (NIV)
” or because of these surpassingly great revelations. Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. 10 That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
What the hate that I see at times from huns (as defined) can do if I am not careful is to feed my own hate. In that respect this, that I have posted before, helps retain balance.
An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. “A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy.
“It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil – he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.” He continued, “The other is good – he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you – and inside every other person, too.”
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, “Which wolf will win?”
The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”
Edward Ursus on 10 April, 2012 at 00:40 said
I had a similar sort of experience. Followed the crowd until I realised the guys at the other end we were shouting abuse at were the same guys who would be kicking a ball about with me in the back streets off the Gallowgate and having a laugh with.
Edward Ursus on 10 April, 2012 at 01:01 said:
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I like the cut of yer jib! :-)
Very good summation at this time of the morning and clears up a few things.
I DID notice a few posters – sorry didn’t read too far back as there was too much negative stuff going on – welcoming you so who am I to make judgement?
My brother-in-law is a 30 year season ticket holder at I-brokes and he just doesn’t get it as to why most Celtic fans want to see the demise of Rangers. He thinks that we are being hateful despite the overwhelming evidence of financial doping AKA cheating that has been going on for God knows how long. It’s a case of monkey see etc… His astounding logic is that it is not the players fault so move on!!! I’ve said on here before that we – my brother-in-law and I have NEVER seen the same Celtic vs Rangers game.
Edward, I don’t have anything against you other than your choice of club and as others with years more time served are happy to converse then so would I be. As long as you keep the above in mind as I would love to hear your take on it.
HH
AoW
Edward…..I’m mainly a lurker , occasional poster , but I remember you from being on here in the past.
I always respected your posts , even when they where triumphant as your team had won a trophy or a big match, as I looked on your posts as being similar to what my Rangers supporting acquaintances were saying at the time.
Happy , but not surprised to see you on here congratulating us this weekend .
In the past I’ve congratulated my Rangers supporting acquaintances on a title win , but that was obviously before I realised they had cheated by spending other peoples money to put a team on the park they couldn’t afford.
I know it’s not the fault of you or the decent guys I know , but what are your thoughts on the fact that for at least the last 12 years Rangers have cheated by spending other peoples money (the tax payer) and now seem to be looking for the best way out that shafts everyone they owe money too ??
Auldheid
As perceptive as ever :>)
No hate here mi amigo.
Just a lack of understanding of why others hate us, obviously a failing on my part, but tonight has shown the blog up for what it is imo.
I do not have a problem with ED, I have repeated that adinfinitum, and still they don’t get it, I have been attacked for my stance, by so called Tims, well imo, they had better take a good look in the mirror, they attacked me for standing up to what I hold dear and slaughtered me for it, they only read what they wanted to read, that I was attacking EU, not at all, I was attacking the posters who fawned and cooded over him.
ED is as smart as eggs, a daftie can see that, but yet they attacked me for my stance, sorry mi amigo, they were way, way off the mark.
can’t see the wood from the trees comes to mind.
All is happy here in Timland.
Apoligies to dafties, no doubt someone will pull me up for that.
THE EXILED TIM on 10 April, 2012 at 01:32 said:
Apoligies to dafties, no doubt someone will pull me up for that.
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Us dafties take great offence at that but apology accepted! :-)
HH
AoW
TET
I don’t think they attacked you about Ed.
You sound very bitter, and a wee bit hateful.
But you also explained why, and I think most people will understand why you said it.
I remember saying to a friend “I don’t hate him, I just wish he never existed.”
The friend quietly pointed out “that sounds a lot like hate”.
The guy i “disliked” was a huge tim, and a very bad man.
Ed – me and Larsson and McStay are looking for a bit of clarity on your stance on the financial jiggery pokery at Poundland, any updates?
Yours in Celtic,
AoW :-)
So to sum up. I don’t like you and I’m going to post several times and tell you why I don’t. You will then post several times back to me. Others will interject and add and subtract. That other guy won’t like that guy and the process will be repeated. Oh, and I’ve never met you yet I can’t stand your politics.
Strange evening on a blog of champions. Not showing its best side.
And before you post, I am offended by what you post.
Just before I retire to slumberland, and I’m sure many will read back considering what has been posted tonight.
I seem to have outed many hun lovers tonight,, and have outed a few more who have had a false friendship for me, well, I will sleep happily in my bed tonight, I hope yous all do the same.
My family have been subjected to hatred and serious vilonce at the hand of the hun, just cos I’m a Tim, and you have slaughtered me for it, shame on yous,I have not asked for your support, but as sure as hell didn’t asked to get lambasted for saying what I feel.
As I said earlier, I can live with the fact that I have alienated some on here, your choice, If you would rather stick up for the hun, your choice, maybes next time you could actually read what I post then judge me for my sins.
Take care and god bless Timland, where ever that may be.
HH
Bloke109,
I actually think the best is being shown tonight
Partying since Saturday..God bless the Tim Reaper…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PfCeSjE1IY
THE EXILED TIM on 10 April, 2012 at 01:25 said
Yeah I saw that part and I think what has come out since is why you do not feel you can relate to Ed in a similar manner to others. and everyone has different reasons for how they relate to each other.
I was posting the other night about not judging others, when in fact I should have said we would be better not to condemn others on the limited basis of the judgement we form, but recognise them as beings in process. The process of being alive, living each moment second by second and being shaped by the passage of that time and what happens in it.
Who amongst us in thinking terms is still the same 15 year old, or 20 year old or 25 year old that we were at those ages? (pick your own increment and keep going).
Life is a helluva ride and we can only make the best it and be grateful for the opportunity to do so.
Bloke109 is Neil Lennon on 10 April, 2012 at 01:41 said:
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… your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries! :-)
CraigWhyteknightsofneeCSC
We,the Celtic Community,have had an amazing.incredible weekend and it is the devil,in the shape of der hun,who comes to sow discord where there is none.
Okay…so that is…well,whatever it is,but you know what I mean.
Fraternal greetings & salutations to you all! HH!
AoW, Larsson & McStay :- I said earlier I thought the tax avoidance wrong, no if’s or but’s it may even be criminal. The people who did it should be held responsible as not only have they probably broken the law but may well have killed the club I have followed as far back as I can remember. (My first game was aged 5 in 1962 when my Dad was home on leave, the only thing I remember from it was a diving save from B Ritchie, years later I looked up the result and we were beaten 3 – 2)
From being a season ticket holder until a couple of year ago I now never attend as I’m too busy with football at a lower level plus it was getting to the stage that if I attended Rangers games that was my spare money for the week away.
They are still the first result I look for in the seniors and no doubt if as seems likely they go under then the pheonix club will still be the first result I look for but I don’t see myself returning to Ibrox any time soon. I take in three or four games a week at amateur and youth level two because it’s the amateur or youth team I’m involved with and the others to check out players, so I probably wouldn’t miss them as much as many.
However I feel that SDM and CW have combined to ruin the club and have cheated us Rangers supporters as much as they have others.
GET BACK
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Kojo was a bam who thought he was a brammer
But he knew his wit was crass
Kojo left his home in a syphilitic coma
Tae gamble w/some whores in Vegas
Get black, you’re black
Get back to where you once belonged
Get black, Get black!
Get back to where you once performed
Get back Kojo , and take your schizos with you
back to where you once belonged
Sorry Kojo
Tet
just in from a good night out with friends and family
You’ve got my 100% support in everything you say
Some of the KKK would say they were just “good OldBoys ” that liked dressing up and had an interest in cruciform pyrotechnics .
Years ago in the the cages of Long Kesh a fella was moved from one cage to another .On his arrival in his new cage he asked some f the boys who was the most decent of the screws on guard at the gate .Having had him pointed out to him he immediately approached the said screw and landed one on his jaw,knocking him clean out.
Why?
Because in his eyes as soon as the said screw knew he was in charge of political prisoners he should have had nothing to do with the job and should have walked away
What ever was good about rangers died a long ,long time ago
Nuremburgcsc
Evening Bhoys only read the present page. Goodness gracious what’s been occurring!!!!!!
Edward Ursus on 10 April, 2012 at 01:50 said:
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Fair play mate and thanks for reply. You do come across as a football man.
One thing that you should consider though is that you might be able to watch your club at a lower level shortly! Meeeaaoooow!!! (Hey it’s allowed :-)))))
AoW
RC
No mi amigo, never hate, that is from the other side, I am bitter, yes, I am angry yes, but never hate, I actually feel sorry for them, they know no better.
My posts if read in context have no hate.
Now I can not speak for the young fella, I have tried, and tried to knock the hate out of him to no avail, they have made him what he is, and that is one angry young Tim.
Yet he is not a violent young fella, but it worries me that when confronted he will be.
These things were brought upon us, I left the country to get away from it all, but still these things follow us, the young fella got seriously beaten up in Aberdeen on Paddy’s weekend for wearing the hoops, I did tell him not to wear them, but hey, young and daft, he did, and suffered for it, all cos he wore the hoops.
Oh, I’m bitter alright, but still no hate mi amigo, angry, yes, but no hate, I will leave the hate to thems.
Summa of Sammi…. on 10 April, 2012 at 00:26 said:
Mate.
You`re amongst friends here,who know you for what you are.
Thoroughly decent.
Who doesn`t remember waking up the next morning cringeing at what they`d written the night before?
We Tims are passionate people.
Hail Hail