Scott Brown’s comment that the players will “look to do any talking on the park” is what you want to hear from the captain this week. Scott’s only just returned from a lengthy absence and is yet to get into full flow, but on form, he is the difference between an anaemic and an effective Celtic.
It’s always hard to judge from the stands what a team is missing when it’s off form but it’s clear we need leaders on the park to grab hold of games and dominate opponents. Scott is our most effective player in this role; a lot of responsibility lies on his shoulders in the coming weeks.
Saturday can’t come soon enough. It’s a far more important game than the semi-final I continually see articles on.
I’ve been in touch with three of the Res 12 guys and hope to pick up on this shortly.
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just back from a 2 week international business pain in the arse travel,
in and out of cqn while away,
to comeback and, in my conclusion , have it confirmed that the board have sold the shareholders out (1909 cup final split the receipts). well
i wont ever stop supporting 11 green and white hoops on the park ,
but,
i wont spend another green fenian penny on the shower of tory shites in the celtic plc boardroom.
stick it up your arse,
Eyes on the Prize(s).
The Title
The SFA
The PLC will be making a statement soon, one would reasonably expect.
Truth is this is not about Celtic, this is about the SFA and bhoys do we we know it’s history. It involves all Scottish clubs and their supporters.
Mr Broadfoot ( for the purpose of this meeting I am the SFA)… Should be inundated with emails. They need to come from supporters of all clubs. We know it will not come from the Media. Their silence today, and pointing at old blogs about drug tests tells us their silence is as usual, deafening.
Let’s see if Me Broadfoot is willing to say For the purpose of this meeting…”I am Spartacus”
Our PLC issue will come out in the wash….
Roll on Paul 67s post.
BRT&H/AULDHEID/CANAMALAR and others heavily involved in RES12.
The whole thing is akin to a jigsaw – please, without going through the whole chronology, tell the rest of us what part(s) of the jigsaw is/are missing.
QUESTIONS:
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1) We know the alleged date of the ‘crime’ and we think we know the UEFA statute of limitations – what don’t we know?
2) What do we want the final outcome to be?
3) Will there be any tangible benefit to Celtic if we get the desired outcome?
4) Could Celtic be adversely affected if they contact UEFA direct?
5) Must a club resolve this type of issue with their own association?
6) Are things as clear-cut as are they are portrayed?
7) Is there another side to this story?
These are reasonable questions and the type of enquiries that any decent legal professional would ask.
Off the theme,
I’d just like to record our appreciation to the Notre Dame CSC, Motherwell. They are bringing a party of 50 to The Hootenanny. I met them earlier today and they paid cash upfront for their tickets, this is a huge help to myself and Almore, with overheads like music etc.
They are heading to Dublin by bus for the 1916 Commemorations!!
I hope the board don’t think we are mugs.
HH
Mr Pastry on 11th March 2016 12:53 am
Oh, yes.
Fact based opinion.
A good start.
Give yourself a coconut macjay, well done. I know you like to argue about the colour of your own shite but at no time did I “precisely” or other wise tell or advise you not to offer an opinion. You on the other hand seem to take offence when supporters voice their view that they will give up their support for our corrupt board.
If supporters feel strongly enough that they want to voice this concern on an open forum with direct connections to our club then why would you prefer they didn’t exercise this option.
Hope you are well btw, ya trumpet……:_)
Send me five grand and I’ll send you my card, you can put it on your club wall and boast to all your pals at the barbie that you have a season book for a club like no other.
Macjay,
You talk about not getting a response to questions that you asked of “some Portuguese guy” from the trust I believe. Why should a guy, whose organisation you are not a member of and who you are hyper critical off, without knowing very much about said organisation, provide you with answers?
On the other hand, I am a Celtic shareholder and a member of the Celtic Trust. I receive frequent communications from the Trust, I receive nothing from Celtic outside of my invitation to vote in the stage managed AGM farce. With the shenanigans that have been played out over the past five years, ALL shareholders should have been kept up to date on the progress of how ‘our’ board were dealing with decades of institutional cheating, not to mention the ongoing refereeing plague.
In the past 12 months, I have been trying to get the SLO to look at how my meagre dividend cheque could be diverted into the Celtic Foundation, something that other companies seem to have little or no problem organising, my last 3 e-mails to him have not solicited a single response.
The e-mail I sent to the SLO last night will either get a response from him and if not, will most definitely elicit a response from me.
St Stivs, want to buy a soiled onsie?
Only worn a few times but soiled just the same.
ACGR,
A shared history is not soiled, unless we sell it out to some feckin tory, who then markets it at
the original onseie.
only us know this by the way/
good to see you back
i wont be back at celtic park
keep it lit
A CEILER GONOF RUST on 11TH MARCH 2016 1:05 AM
Give yourself a coconut macjay, well done. I know you like to argue about the colour of your own shite but at no time did I “precisely” or other wise tell or advise you not to offer an opinion. You on the other hand seem to take offence when supporters voice their view that they will give up their support for our corrupt board.
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It`s not about me , although I`m flattered to see you disagree.
I don`t like to argue . I like harmony and I love Celtic .
I don`t take offence. I just disagree.
Why do you guys have to tell us about your future actions
Why don`t you just do it and move on.
Five grand ? Pesos ? Escudos ?
ANTIPODEAN RED on 11TH MARCH 2016 1:06 AM
Macjay,
You talk about not getting a response to questions that you asked of “some Portuguese guy” from the trust I believe.
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Please don`t misquote me.
Mate. Supporting Celtic seems to make you miserable.
Why don`t you just vote with your feet ?
My contacts with the S.L.O. have been extremely well handled on his side.
Sorry to hear your experience has been different.
Gorrago.
Hail Hail
St Stivs, I only came on to gauge the mood in light of the latest sell out of the support by our gutless board. Then I read a post from some guy 12’000 miles away who was obviously hacked off at the temerity of actual Celtic supporters suggesting they would withdraw their financial support given the despicable and cowardly R 12 stance of our club. Imagine that, on an open forum anaw.
I’m off to work now. Got a call with some Aussie twats in Darwin at 2 and cqn isnay paying my wages.
HH bruv
I’ll be going to game against PT this weekend and will be shouting “sack the board, sack the board” for whole 90 mins I hope others join me
“Why don`t you just do it and move on”
I thought you were an educated man. Is this not a forum for Celtic supporters to share ideas and views? Why do you post anything here? Why don’t you just get on with your life and leave the rest of us out of it, we don’t give a shit.
Does that make any sense to you macjay?
Anyway, I’m off to sort out some work stuff.
Send me the five grand and you can be Mr beach tim of the month with your wee season card. Its made from real plastic and its got some green on it. It’ll be just the job for you.
Another time bro. Take care………………..:_)
Macjay,
“The Board of ever changing personnel ?
When your ” heid bummer ” with the Portuguese name come on here , I addressed a significant number of questions to him.
Didn`t receive the courtesy of a reply from him . One of those questions was how many members do you have.
In other words to what degree does your organisation represent the opinions of the rank and file Celtic supporter.
My feeling is that your organisation represents a tired old ideology which the rest of the world got rid of at the first opportunity it had to do so.”
Your comment, tell me where I misquoted you?
Supporting Celtic does not make me miserable, it has provided me with some of the best moments of my life. Supporting a group of deceitful, disengenous and downright dishonest individuals also doesn’t make me miserable, it makes determined that things now need to change for the better and the we Celtic supporters are the very people to expel these charlatans from the boardroom, remember we had to starve out the last mob of goons, or did you support them as well?
ACGR,
I’m in Darwin at the moment, don’t think I will be one of those twats but probably on the same project.
How you doin?
Antipodean Eed……
hello.
Catch you another time, hope life is treating you well.
AR, LNG terminal and CCPP, two big floating chunk of metal out in the sea? Yep that the one.
Later bro, and no, you are not on my call:_)
HH
You said ; “some Portuguese guy” from the trust I believe.
I said: When your ” heid bummer ” with the Portuguese name come on here ,
The distinction matters to me.
The first sounds a tad derogatory. To me.
antipodean red on 11th March 2016 1:37 am
No problem with the rest of your comments.
I just happen to disagree.
When I have definite evidence about what we both believe would be dereliction of duty on the part of the Board ,then I`ll be on board .
Not before.
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 11th March 2016 2:13 am
antipodean red on 11th March 2016 1:37 am
No problem with the rest of your comments.
I just happen to disagree.
When I have definite evidence about what we both believe would be dereliction of duty on the part of the Board ,then I`ll be on board .
Not before.
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I’ve emailed JPT and I never do anything like that.
The Time is short and literally every second counts.
If you are so inclined check the 2nd and 3rd… especially Chapter 8 of the Larry Bird.
2 Peter 2 & 2 Peter 3
I look forward to Paul67s commentary, like all Celts on here.
The people get what the people deserve, especially when the Lord is relegated.
America will be getting anything but a Christian for those that want to nitpick about things. America certainly ain’t the Christian Nation it likes to think it is. Anyway, the Faith is in Christ Alone.
I might be getting duped but it is good to see the Controlled players being Trumped, I reckon God has a sense of humour. ;))
Auditing that Federal Reserve???
I doubt that would happen…. Too much unless there is a shift to a new System totally.
The 666 Carbon System?
petec on 11th March 2016 2:32 am
False prophets and false teachers.
A fair few of those around. :-)
Who stands up to them?
MR PASTRY on 11TH MARCH 2016 12:53 AM
BRT&H/AULDHEID/CANAMALAR and others heavily involved in RES12.
The whole thing is akin to a jigsaw – please, without going through the whole chronology, tell the rest of us what part(s) of the jigsaw is/are missing.
QUESTIONS:
——————
1) We know the alleged date of the ‘crime’ and we think we know the UEFA statute of limitations – what don’t we know?
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If there was in fact an overdue payable as defined in UEFA FFP Art 66 and Annex Viii at 30 June 2011. Our tax expert advice is that there was from 20 June and legal input was that none of the 4 conditions for exemption were met by 30 June.
That in a nutshell is what Res12 asked UEFA to investigate because previous enquiries only got an answer relevant to Art50 that covered an overdue payable at 31st March. There wasn’t one under Art 50 as bill did not arrive until 20th May.
2) What do we want the final outcome to be?
Depends on answer to above. If SFA can explain how Art66 requirements were met, particularly in light of how UEFA dealt with a similar situation with Malaga FC the following year, to shareholders satisfaction in a way that answers why SOs called to collect 6 weeks after 30 June, then that is all that is required to bed the issue. It’s that simple.
If in fact there was an overdue payable as defined then first an apology to Celtic, it’s support and shareholders and a commitment to review their processes to ensure a repeat was not possible and compensation for denying Celtic the opportunity to play in a first round qualifying match. Also an explanation why Stewart Regan had to discuss issue with Andrew DICKSON of RFC and send him a draft for RFC to clear and why SFA asked RFC to make a statement in Sept 2011 to cover the position at that point in language that suggested UEFA would not examine fully because they were too busy. A statement that subsequently was a misrepresentation of the position.
3) Will there be any tangible benefit to Celtic if we get the desired outcome?
The tangible benefit to Scottish football will be that those governing will no more act with impunity and make secret agreements that impact on the integrity of the game they are charged with protecting. I think having a more careful SFA will be a tangible benefit to Celtic as will reforming a governance system that apparently worked to the benefit of one club to the exclusion of the rest.
4) Could Celtic be adversely affected if they contact UEFA direct?
Only Celtic know the answer to that but it would be a strange situation where the possible victims of a crime were punished for reporting it.
5) Must a club resolve this type of issue with their own association?
That is how the current system works. Closed shop governance with no accountability to paying customer and in Scotland that is match goers. Such a system encourages the very arrogance that Res12 has had to battle with.
6) Are things as clear-cut as are they are portrayed?
Right up to Dec 2015 matters where as reported. Shareholder reps and Celtic worked together to establish validity of our points and take them to SFA. The SFA refused to answer specific questions in a letter put to them on 23 July 2015 after two reminders.
Given the domestic solution route was going no where the decision was made late Dec to take case to UEFA not just to answer the prime question and investigate but SFA’S inaction since Aug 2014 when they were shown the tax bill which they said they had not seen. Celtic were aware of this change taking matters out the domestic forum to the UEFA one. There was a hope it might get an answer from SFA.
In the absence of any information thereafter, although I am now reading there might have been a reply in January but that was never passed on if true and a) I doubt it and b) I’d love to see how Art 66 was complied with using Brysonesquethink, the process of writing to UEFA re-engaged but our feelings on the matter, which for all the furore, will make it harder to avoid honest satisfactory answers being made public.
If SFA have in fact answered the points in our letter of 23 July 2015 that we were unaware of it will be enlightening to read what they say in regard of each point made.
7) Is there another side to this story?
I don’t know about point but Scotland is some country when it takes the contortions that have happened since 2011 to minimise the impact of years of cheating from 2000 and then turn the world inside out to try and make those contortions appear normal.
This whole farce is as much if not more of an ethical issue and the lack of ethics at play is a sad reflection on our game, those running it in paricular and our society in general.
These are reasonable questions and the type of enquiries that any decent legal professional would ask.
And we asked them ourselves.
– See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/doing-your-talking-on-the-park/comment-page-12/#comments
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 11th March 2016 3:01 am
petec on 11th March 2016 2:32 am
False prophets and false teachers.
A fair few of those around. :-)
Who stands up to them?
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Did you read through the lot?
You just cherry picked, I think, what you wanted to read.
I might be wrong.
Tonight wasn’t a night for putting up a single Bible line….hence why I put up what I did.
I await Paul67s commentary eagerly.
Time
Christ died for me, I know that so much.
Auldheid on 11th March 2016 3:08 am
Respect to all of you.
HH
Auldheid,
I’d like to echo what PJBhoynyc said. And once again, apologise for being so JudgeMental.
Sorry.
petec on 11th March 2016 3:11 am
Sorry,teach.
I read until I got bored.
Then I stopped.
The Bible is so open to individual interpretation that I tend to use common sense when dealing with issues of morality.
Turn the other cheek? Or an eye for an eye?
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 11th March 2016 3:28 am
No problemo dude, you cut out the comment you wanted to comment on last Time… I did put a ? there as well. I’m nothing compared to so many on here. Just ma opinion. That disappointed me a wee bit.
Hail Hail
The last 24 hours have been pretty depressing, particularly for a Happy Clapper.
One of the sad facts is the constant bickering during times like this when some posters parse the posts of others looking for offense.
The other calls to replace the board are plaintive cries in the wilderness.
We all know the board operates at the behest of the major shareholder and his proxie share holding bloc.
A coupe d’etat is numerically impossible.
Calls for a bhoycott only divides us further as many, like myself perhaps, see the team and those in the back room as different and separate parts of the same entity.
No I don’t understand it either but helps maintain my undinting support for the bhoys on the park, the bench and the training ground.
As part of gathering a full understanding of what’s at stake here I’d like to make a couple of achievable and air clearing suggestions.
Let’s see which of the following are possible to gain the maximum impact.
1. BRTH, Auldheid Canamalar and whoever were involved in drafting and progressing the RES 12 create a blog with the complete submission to Celtic and to the SFA. Unexpurgated.
2. A concise summary of the main points preferably in short bullet points as in a PowerPoint presentation.
3. Circulate the url for these docs to every Celtic site we all use, CQN, Huddleboard, Celtic Minded, Kerrydale Street etc.
4. Have bloggers like James Forrest Phil Mac comment on the contents.
5. Social media exposure, Facebook, Twitter etc. Let rise the awareness.
6. Podcast. Have BRTH Auldheid Canamalar and everyone who has worked on this solicit questions from the Celtic worldwide community and read the questions and answers in person to the Celtic WWW community.
7. Devise a solid plan of action which puts pressure on all the individuals in senior management and boardroom positions at Celtic Park.
Most importantly
Ensure that whatever actions are taken, do not result in waning support for the team that takes the field each game.
You answered it @ 3:28.
Be Thankful
Pete C, do you think this shower of cowards in charge of Celtic would fight for you, never mind die for you?
I’m glad you have your faith, I have none. None whatsoever. So I guess I’ll just be a dissenting voice and cynic, and have a wry chuckle when Celtic get the odd victory v the SFA favoured 11.
Maybe neg was right all along and its me that’s the closed minded fool?
HH
Auldheid on 11th March 2016 3:08 am
Please accept my thanks for the work you have performed in an attempt to resolve these matters.
I don`t pretend to understand the minutiae of the issues you refer to.
I do get the impression, however , that you are saying that Celtic have been co-operative and pro-active in following through on these matters which are of real concern to many of us ,to the extent that they have been able to.
Would that be a reasonable assessment?