Emerging talent, Slovenian reaction, footballs morals

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Delighted to hear Ronny Deila is planning to rest players ahead of Tuesday’s Cup Final.  There is plenty to be gained from playing the next wave of Callum McGregors at Inverness tomorrow, and little to be lost in the league race.

Our unique position in world football, a club who are so massively bigger than all others they are not involved in a proper competition to win the league, has more drawbacks than advantages, but we need to exploit this position by developing emerging talent when the stars align.

The morning after the day before the Slovakian media were very respectful of Celtic.  There was an acceptance that their assessment of Celtic was based on two unrepresentative performances against Legia.

Perhaps the most encouraging aspect of Slovenian coverage was the appreciation of the “modern football” Celtic played.  Assessments of Maribor’s chances in the return leg were pragmatic.  Expectations are low, but with the tie level, they know they still have a chance.  Hopes are, that Maribor’s misplaced optimism is viral, and that Celtic will be infected by the same disease.

Celtic’s job on Tuesday is to make sure they treat Maribor as though they were Bayern Munich.

Oh Malky.  You and I both know that football is remarkably indifferent to moral uncertainty, the actions over the last 24 hours of the thoroughly reprehensible League Managers’ Assocation testify to that.  Practically anything is forgiven or overlooked, but only up to a point.  Malky MacKay has been implicated in attacks against Chinese, Koreans, black people, gays and Jews, quite a unique full house.

Cardiff City have already leveraged this to obtain a grovelling apology and have now cost him a seven figure contract, offered by his friend at Crystal Palace.  Question is, after the controversy dies down and the obligatory contrition is served, will another club offer him a contract?  I don’t think so.

As far as the football industry is concerned, Malky’s unforgivable sin is not racism, homophobia or anti-Semitism, these matters are often overlooked as ‘banter’, after all.  He’ll not get another job because he blew millions on players who were useless to Cardiff.

That’s the only kind of offence football really tales notice of.

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  1. “Teams that play a settled 11 and system bond and gel, and few would argue we need a bit of bonding and gelling in the team right now.”

     

     

     

    Kdc,

     

     

    I agree that gelling and bonding is important but a wee bit tinkering is often needed.

     

     

    Sir Alex on his way to making that ‘dodgy’ Utd team epl champions a couply seasons ago rarely played the same 11 two weeks on the bounce.

  2. Read sumwhere the board want GB to buy individual tickets for games but the group want season books

     

     

    If GB do political stuff then the individual tickets kind of helps celtic explain the situation to uefa etc.. If it turns out its a section given by the club then its easier or uefa to fine club.

  3. I’m guessing Zaluska, Biton, Henderson, Commons, Griffiths, Pukki, Ambrose will play tomorrow with maybe O’ Connell, McGeough and a couple of others

  4. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    I have mixed feelings about resting players so early in the season but I come down on the rest them side when I just sit here thinking about it :)

     

    It’s good that players want to play every game but ate this stage of the season I think we should be giving players one game a week to allow decent rest period between games and get over wee niggling knocks and bruises, I think that has been a problem for us over the last few years. It also allows the second string full on game time so when needed the step up to the first team is not such a big ask they will be match fit.

     

    As the season progresses and the core fitness improves then we can consider players strong enough to play two games a week.

  5. smoke and mirrors on

    Greenpinata

     

     

    Do I want them back ….yes

     

     

    Do I want them to get us fined , or look out helpless as another clever banner is displayed that doesnt represent the views of most of us …………No

     

     

    They will be allowed back for non European games after the 18th, any sooner would be folly

  6. Tony d

     

     

    “Oh believe me I hope I am wrong, but with no answers coming on questions asked to these guys, who on a regular bases ask the Celtic board and PL questions, makes you wonder what’s going on”

     

     

     

    Well, if you hope you are wrong, then you have moved on and that is good. Your early posts on the matter suggested that you were gloating that PL would lead them a merry dance and you would be delighted by that. Now, if you could just move on to thanking the guys who are doing the hard graft..

     

     

     

    “we need answered now, not yesterday, and we need them to be straight up”

     

     

    No we don’t. You may want this but leave me out of that impatience and use the personal pronoun that fits you best (“I”).

     

     

    I am aware that much of this work needs to be done in secret because you cannot tip your hand to people who will not hesitate to cover their tracks and bury their evidence if they know what you are on to discover. Celtic plc alos has to be very careful about any public statement it makes in accusation against its national body and must be trebly-sure of its ground before it goes blasting off at the mouth. It is all very well for the resolutioners to say what they like on a blog but, the minute Celtic opens its mouth, they have to have a water-tight statement to make as they will be open to be sued for every penny they have if they mis-step in this contentious field.

     

     

    So let them take their due time. Me and you and other blabbermouths who post their every thought on a blog, do not need to be privy to the secrets, if they exist. We do need to trust the people involved. I trust the CQN guys as bright and capable and nobody’s fools. You judge PL as the same. So between us we should trust the joint process they are undertaking.

  7. 67ECW,

     

    Thank you. Hope your head’s clear today! Now, haven’t you got some work to do…….

  8. Reading back on previous thread and therefore this riposte may be too late to have any worth (!) but…

     

     

    While it is reasonable to expect folk to defend NegA ( which seems a ridiculous thing to need to do on this supposedly friendly fans blog) it really reached ridiculous proportions earlier…

     

     

    A poster picking up a minority but oft stated view as to the detrimental effect of Fergus taking full control over the interests of other more favoured and more ‘worthwhile’ individuals really nullified his extreme (in my view) views by being sympathetic to Lou Macari about the treatment he received from FMcC….

     

     

    I can honestly say over all the years since on no occasion have I spoken to nor heard any fan support the appointment of LM as Manager of our Club…

     

     

    Lou, a very decent player for us, had already been diminished in the affections of the support by the manner in which he left us but as a manager OMG!!!!

     

     

    Always aware this blog was a broad church but there should be some limits. :-)

  9. Lindegaerd chat aload of crap id say.. We wont sign a keeper unless gordon gets injuryed.

     

     

    From what iv read fans are delighted with him so far.. If we get another keeper it will be a charlron ath keeper and not a man united keeper

  10. glendalystonsils on

    Tallybhoy

     

    12:52 on

     

    22 August, 2014

     

    The EU is outlawing the sale of ‘too powerful’ vacuum cleaners from next month!

     

     

    I hear that Peter Lawwell has a 1,000,000 watt one with which he hoovers up all the transfer and CL money which comes in to the club >}

  11. kdc @ 1308hrs,

     

     

    “Teams that play a settled 11 and system bond and gel, and few would argue we need a bit of bonding and gelling in the team right now.”

     

     

    I agree there, bonding/a settled 11 does help a team.

     

     

    “Playing a second string or weaker team in a league game this early in a season sends completely the wrong subliminal message to the squad, “it disnae realy matter””

     

     

    But thats the crux here, in relation to this coming Tuesday’s game, tomorrow disnae matter! There is nothing subliminal about it mate. Its a fact.

     

     

    Cups however, do and should matter. The players should be intelligent and mentally “clever” enough to know that, but I agree with you that mental attitude can be difficult to get right. I have no doubt that the Morton game last season is a good example of this, where the attitude possibly was not what it should have been, although on another night (IIRC) the chances we created then would have seen us win fairly comfortably.

     

     

    I guess where we differ is that, for me, given the importance of Tuesday night – to me its a make or break our season game – I would minimise, if indeed not entirely eliminate, all risk of injury due to playing for those players who will be guaranteed to start on Tuesday.

     

     

    Each to their own and all that mate.

     

     

    HAIL! HAIL!

     

    Token

  12. I was just reading the Gazza debate. I lived in a house where alcohol caused a lot of strife. My mother was an alcoholic, she never took a drink and then got a job as a cleaner with British Rail. That was the turning point. I was 9, my sister 12 and my mum decided she preferred the drink rather than bringing up her kids. She took off and I only seen her periodically over the next 35 years. After she and my dad broke up he went on the drink for a few years but after a while copped himself on remarried and ran a quite successful business. I owe an awful lot to my old man and don’t want to sound heartless but I never really forgave my mum. She died 10 years ago. She had been on a bender for 3 weeks and 2 days later she had a heart attack and died. Both me and my sister were surprised she lived as long as she did. I like reading this blog but not the bickering. Gazza has serious issues but at the end of the day they’re all self inflicted. I also like a drink and have friends who are too fond of the bottle but the difference is I know the cut off point. Who knows, maybe I’m fortunate but I don’t agree with the “there but for the grace of God” stuff.

  13. Beamishismypint @13.17hrs.

     

     

    “Another Keeper?”

     

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    Possibly and why not ? : A sensible and feasible strategy ; if we acknowledge that CG may be a calculated gamble in terms of fitness, not ability. CL qualification & participation is everything now.

     

     

    It is always necessary to have a plan B / C as contingency for important events.

     

     

    HH.

  14. Not giving the GB tickets for the Maribor game makes absolutly no sense to me.

     

    We need a loud and intimidating atmophere next Tuesday.

     

    Just about every club in europe has ultra sections often much larger than the GB.See Ajax and Legia.

     

    The ultras are even getting more common around english stadiums now. But only at Celtic it seems they are not allowed. You can be sure the Maribor ultra fans will be there.

  15. ***Lunchtime Quiz***

     

     

    A hairy coconut to the winner of today’s Champions League qualifying themed quiz.

     

    A two-parter of all things…

     

     

    In the 2003 Champions League final qualifier, Henrik Larsson broke the European record of goals scored by a player for a single British club.

     

    (a) Against which club did he achieve this feet and

     

    (b) Which two players jointly held the record to that point?

     

     

    ***The rules of the game are always the same.

     

    No search engines please, you’re only cheating yourself***

  16. I miss the atmosphere that the GB bring to the stadium and the encouragement that they give to the team.

     

     

    But the GB. Keep shooting themselves in the foot.

     

     

    They planned a large YES vote campaign in the stadium.

     

    Celtic want no politics in the stadium.

     

     

    They have made this clear to all and sundry.

     

     

    Celtic have little choice.

     

     

    TT

  17. Bobby….. Ha yes a forerunner to the modern day(Let The People Sing).

     

    By the way how did you transfer my post?all the years on here iv’e never

     

    learned. Wee Fra showed me how to do the link thingy once, but it was at a time when I was on the dreaded Pash so that’s lost to the memory bank also :)

     

     

     

     

    .H.H.

  18. squire danaher on

    Some questions for the Green Brigade sympathisers re: GB statement why they can’t go to the game on Tuesday

     

     

    What’s stopping them going to ticket office and buying a ticket to the game?

     

     

    What’s stopping them SUPPORTING CELTIC LIKE THE REST OF US????

     

     

    Are they in the huff because they can’t get sitting wi their pals???

  19. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    tinytim,

     

    Are you saying its ok for the board to make political statements and impose their political ideology on the support and no one else should be allowed ?

  20. Boscobhoy02 brave of you to share such a profound and personal experience. Consider that it is possible that alcoholism is biological and forgive. Those of us who can take a drink and then leave off are fortunate. The thing about blogs is that they sometimes make you uncomfortable, look in the mirror. But your are still here , like most of us, including the Hero’s and villains, whoever that will be. Glasgow is green and white.

  21. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    The GB, who are not just daft wee boys out for fun, reserve their “right” to make any political statement to which they feel inclined.

     

     

    The problem is that these statements often fall foul of EUFA’s rules….and it is Celtic who pick up the tab.

     

     

    Maribor had a stand closed last Wednesday, due to a breach of EUFA’s rules.

     

     

    Legia….well, we know what rule breaking cost them.

     

     

    Are the GB all joined at the hip, that they can’t attend a game as individual supporters.

     

     

    How did we manage to support Celtic for all these years.

     

     

    The anonymous, boak inducing statement is just an attempt to portray themselves as some kind of victims of a cruel authority.

     

     

    Celtic First, as a much missed poster would perhaps have said.

  22. IGC,

     

     

    a) Basel

     

    b) Van Nistelrooy and Henry

     

     

    Although I seem to recall something about Denis Law, but probably nothing in relation to this record….

     

     

    HAIL! HAIL!

     

    Token

  23. TinyTim @ 13.34 hrs.

     

     

    If it transpires that the GB were indeed planning political campaigning in the stadium for our season defining Euro Tie, then it shows total disregard to the club and its supporters.

     

     

    Contrary to what some believe they are not stupid. They know the consequences.

     

     

    If this is indeed the case then the club is duty bound to act accordingly.

     

     

    However this is only speculation at this time. We need answers, and the onus is on the GB to provide them instead of releasing an ambiguous statement.

     

     

    HH.

  24. drams reply from last thread……..Bobby…… oh ok mate wrong info csc lol.

     

    I got my first membership for Greenock Shammy in 73,In fact I had my engagement party in there feb 74.One of my fondest memories of that time now I recall

     

    was one particular G.M ,when Arthur D. took to the stage and addressed the crowd

     

    with a passionate speech……The reason for his passion?

     

    He vehemently opposed a ruling to curb the singing of erm… certain songs

     

    on the buses…… cue the crowd giving it a lusty rendering of The Merry Ploughboy

     

    Ha HA, good times. H.H.

  25. I am behind the times. What political statements are you referring too?

     

     

    I had thought that the request for the GB to be non political.

  26. Canalamar 13.04.

     

     

    May 2011? I’m such a pedant :)

     

     

    SFTB

     

     

    13.17

     

     

    Thanks. That about sums it up. Celtic not the shareholders reps set the parameters on disclosure.

     

    That has meant a lot of speculative comment, but if it gets a result it will be worth it.

  27. so the GB planned a “yes” display. What’s the big deal ?!?

     

    No politics at football? Give me peace. I maybe speculating, but I suspect many of the more mature generation on this site were known for singing songs in their youth which might be deemed “political” (to be kind).

     

    Celtic was born out of politics. Celtic’s existence has been intrinsically linked to society’s highs and woes.

     

    To think the club in the not too distant past had a St Pauli merchandise section on its web shop. Can you think of a more “political” club ?!

     

    In the meantime, the only noise generated outwith the GB will be the familiar rustling of the sweetie wrappers – oh, the irony of having played at Murrayfield….

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