Football fans and fragile self-esteem

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If you can withhold pressure from the baying mob after poor football results, you are built from strong stuff. Looking in from the outside, it is easy to understand why sacking a manager should never be done on the back of one poor run of form, least of all a manager’s first poor run of form. This holds true, even if you expect to go through a painful period of results before the outcome becomes inevitable.

When you replace a manager you need to worry about what comes next. When some Celtic fans demonstrated to remove Neil Lennon from his job, at that stage, he had won five out of five domestic trophies available to him and topped a Europa League group. The world and his dog suspected Neil was no longer right for the job, but trigger-happy clubs do not attract quality managers who have options.

Giovanni van Bronckhorst led a team to the Europa League final and won a Scottish Cup. He compounded this felony by qualifying for the Champions League group stage. The demands of which took its toll on a squad which he had squeezed the last breath of quality from.

Within six months of that wafer-thin loss in Seville, his board capitulated to the demands of the mob and sacked him. I was delighted.

While Gio was under pressure, Michael Beale was top of the English Championship with QPR and a prospective ‘Premier League manager’ in the making. With his stock never higher, he strode into Ibrox like the Pope, well, maybe that’s not a great analogy, but basically, when he was flavour of the month and van Bronckhorst was suffering, he made his affinities known to club and fans alike.

Beale loaded the gun which fired van Bronckhorst. His QPR were soon in freefall, with the London club happy to let him leave and Newco desperate to quell the baying mob, the deed took place under cover of an international break.

High earners were emptied from the squad without transfer fees, a bevvy of new recruits were bought for around £13m (according to Beale) and none of them are up to the task of dislodging Celtic. An aside, John Park is chief scout there, the man who went to Holland and brought Virgil van Dijk to Celtic Park and Sam Lammers to Ibrox. Bizarre, really.

The league is not over. Newco have two months of benign domestic fixtures ahead; all winnable, with a decent chance of being top of the table in November. The best thing they can do is take their medicine from Sunday and let the manager get on with it. They will fail hilariously.

Football clubs suffer most damage, not at the hand of opponents, but from fans who have achieved nothing in the game and who rely on a win to bolster their fragile self-esteem. If you figure out how to overcome this, Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it.

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  1. On this night, 5th September 1967, at Celtic Park Glasgow, Celtic beat reigning world club champions Penarol of Montevideo 2-1. Two goals in the first half from Willie Wallace and Spencer scoring the Uruguayan goal. Only (The) Renton FC can match that.

  2. AuroraBorealis79 on

    HANKRAY on 5TH SEPTEMBER 2023 5:51 PM

     

    Greenpinata………….Why is aviation never mentioned in the great global warming debate?

     

     

    Greta Thunberg has 9 private jets

  3. Here’s a M&M

     

    But it’s only me Melbourne Mick, just wakened to a lovely

     

    morning.

     

    Happy Birthday Tom 🎂

     

    Now what to do today to fill my time ?

     

    O.k first off, try and find a handsome hun.

     

    Off oot , should keep me busy for a few hours 🤣

     

    H H. Mick

  4. Watching Sportscene again.

     

     

    BBC editing team clearly let McCann down.

     

     

    He says “watch this, neither Lagerbilke or McGregor even protest to the referee” and the BBC show Lagerbielke jumping in front of the ref.

  5. Very well put Paul.

     

     

    “Football clubs suffer most damage, not at the hand of opponents, but from fans who have achieved nothing in the game and who rely on a win to bolster their fragile self-esteem. ”

     

     

    Handy tip: Your self-esteem will get boosted if you can criticise those who have worked in football all their lives, because this gives the impression that you know more about the game than they do.

  6. Good morning all from another fine, dry, sunny (soon to be 26degrees) Garngad.

     

     

    Oh the Rangers are Sh!@e,

     

    Oh the Rangers are Sh!@e.

     

     

    Did the zombies gather at the bigotdome yesterday I seen vids of it but had my doubts.

     

    If its today I need to stock up on Jelly and ice cream.

     

     

    Have a lovely day yall

     

     

    D :)

  7. DAVID66 on 6TH SEPTEMBER 2023 6:49 AM

     

    Good morning all from another fine, dry, sunny (soon to be 26degrees) Garngad.

     

     

     

    Oh the Rangers are Sh!@e,

     

     

    Oh the Rangers are Sh!@e.

     

     

     

    Did the zombies gather at the bigotdome yesterday I seen vids of it but had my doubts.

     

     

    If its today I need to stock up on Jelly and ice cream.

     

    —————

     

    Morning all!

     

    David, that’s what’s been going. Through my head since the first half against them.

     

    We absolutely bossed them at their own ground, with no fans and a load of our first team missing.

     

     

    It brought this to mind… 😂😂😂💩

     

    https://youtube.com/shorts/1LroYX9su0A?si=hfKs9N5NAyygFkXr

  8. Their recruitment has been bizzare. Beale ignored a weak defence which he himself seen cough up goals against us in every game he managed. I can only assume that the funds were limited and he had decided to buy in forwards to replace those leaving.

     

     

    Then we come to the forwards, a quick Google search on Lammers, Danilo, Dessers and Sima would have shown they don’t score enough goals. In Lammers case, 6 goals in 3 years ! Same with Roofe, a cursory search would have shown him to be plagued by injuries but they still go and pay him tens of thousands a week.

     

     

    Their recruitment looks amateur, probably below amateur because I’m sure the likes of Alan Morrison and Juco James could have done a lot better.

     

     

    John Park must be phoning it in over there.

  9. Who among Celtic fans gives 2 monkeys about the cheating hun?

     

    Lets have an alpreciation of this starting 11 and the manager (whose resignation note it was meant to be!)

     

     

    Hart,

     

    Johnston,

     

    Laberbielke,

     

    Scales,

     

    Taylor,

     

    McGregor,

     

    Turnbull,

     

    O’Riley,

     

    Abada,

     

    Kyogo,

     

    Maeda.

     

     

    A lot more interesting than ‘whit are the huns daen’

     

    Day after day ol frim pash,would rather read bout our youth than anythin from trash park

     

     

    HH

  10. The thing is that for those bona fide supporters on here, and elsewhere, who dismissed our chances, and wrote off our prospects before the game on Sunday and later witnessed not only their judgement, their predictions, and it has to be said their catastrophizing, proved er castastrophically wrong, they at least have the consolation of what would surely have been a hoped for Celtic victory.

     

    Contrast and compare this with the thoughts, predictions and indeed the very dismissals from our very host here on the possibility that Brendan Rodgers would return to Paradise after previously leaving Eden, and yet later finding his worst fears writ large, confounding not only his own cognitive thoughts but his faith in his spiritual leader…

     

    Think what that might do to one’s self esteem

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    Good morning CQN.

     

     

    This is a genuine “to be fair to Michael Beale” comment.

     

     

    The ongoing absence of a DoF is a factor.

     

     

    Symptomatic of a dysfunctional organization that more often reacts to events rather than putting a strategy in place and sticking with it through thick and thin.

     

     

    Reinvention then controlling the narrative is central to how the club/holding company operates.

     

     

    As for DoF – simple arithmetic.

     

     

    Where once two guys did football stuff there is now one.

     

     

    Clearly stretches the capacity of the one.

  12. Ralston Bernebei Holm Oh and Yang added to that group the unused subs all the Management and coaches, a team effort got the team a result.

  13. Wales boss Rob Page will not be the only manager at Cardiff City Stadium in need of a win on Thursday. South Korea’s head coach Jurgen Klinsmann is under pressure after just six months in the job, not just for poor results but a style of management that is not going down well.

     

     

    Four games at home so far have resulted in two draws against Colombia and El Salvador, and defeats at the hands of Uruguay and Peru – not ideal preparation for January’s Asian Cup, a competition that South Korea last won in 1960, or the start of World Cup qualification in November.

     

     

    Upon his appointment at the end of February, Klinsmann acknowledged that he had work to do to get up to speed with his Korean and Asian football.

     

     

    “It’s a big learning curve for me too but hopefully I’m a great learner,” said the German.

  14. CELTIC MAC

     

    Are you suggesting that Paul 67 and his spiritual leader

     

    ( whoever you think that is ) would want a hun win and not a Celtic victory ?

     

    Yer weird …😜

  15. bigrailroadblues on

    A reminder for the meeting at the Shipbank, this Friday 12 onwards. New faces welcome, old faces just bring plenty money 💰

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