Jock Stein won his first five League Cups as Celtic manager (no pressure, Ronny) but in the 43 years since we’ve won the trophy only eight times, including yesterday.
There has been a bit of chat that the Treble is a bit easier since Rangers were liquidated, but, if you know your history, you’ll know that’s not really borne out by the facts.
We’ve won three of the last 10 League Cups and lost to Rangers once but the six other defeats in that period have come at the hands of the likes of Morton, St Mirren and Kilmarnock. What’s more, Falkirk, Hearts (twice) and Morton all knocked us out at Celtic Park. We haven’t actually lost an away game in the League Cup for over a decade. 25 of our 35 defeats since Stein’s five-in-a-row have come to teams other than Rangers.
Here is a list of our eventual outcomes in the League Cup, winners or those who eliminated us:
2014-15 Winners
Morton
St Mirren
Kilmarnock
Rangers
Hearts
2008-09 Winners
Hearts
Falkirk
2005-06 Winners
Rangers (November 2004 Celtic’s last away defeat in the League Cup)
Hibs
Rangers
Rangers
2000-01 Winners
1999-00 Winners
Airdrie
1997-98 Winners
Hearts
Raith Rovers
Rangers
Aberdeen
Airdrie
Rangers
Aberdeen
Dundee United
Aberdeen
Rangers
Hibs
Dundee United
Rangers
1982-83 Winners
St Mirren
Dundee United
Aberdeen
Rangers
St Mirren
Aberdeen
Rangers
1974-75 Winners
Dundee
Hibs
Partick Thistle
Rangers
At the 40th anniversary of Lisbon I wrote about the 1965-66 until 1969-70 period. Jock Stein won 12 of the 15 domestic trophies available, five Leagues, five League Cups and two Scottish Cups. We also won and lost a European Cup Final, while beating champions from Italy, Portugal France and England.
That we went on to win nine-in-a-row disguised the fact that the real glory era ended in 1970. The last four title winning seasons were not characterised by beating anyone substantial in Europe (notwithstanding the fact that we reached two European Cup semis) and a series of capitulations in League Cup Finals. The downwards trajectory from beating Leeds at Hampden and finishing fifth in the league in 1978 is evident.
Two inferences can be drawn:
Winning trebles is incredibly difficult. One slip, one bad tackle leading to a red card, and you are up against it.
Teams who aspire to genuine historical greatness never switch off.
We have a ‘never switch off’ manager. No more Mortons, Falkirks or Raith Rovers’.
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Well worth the money!!
K T F
Taliskar & the Pure??? WDnt like to clean ur cage out in the morn!!
Lá Fhéile Pádraig Sona Daoibh.
jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/
I think that will do nicely. Hope the young one is progressing well.
HH
K T F
Ma Bhoys had a fab day!!!
Ahhh, too many whisky’s and not enough time or subservient wummin.
That’s why fishing and golfing trips were invented.
I hear that Jude but I was so full of the genius I needed a tactical switch , its lovely stuff. :)
A C G R
Yipp he’s doing ok ta. Scored a 20 free kick last week v Q P. Play sevco in the final now.
tricoloured ribbon
23:53 on 16 March, 2015
Macanbheatha,
Are you about buddy?
Great friend of mine reckons he knows ye..
Just got my hudl back of the youngest ,her iPhone is banjaxed and God love her she was suffering social media deprivation big time.
So Ce he an fear seo?
Good stuff Jude , first cup final is a big deal. Glad the Bhoys done the business KTF
A wee night cap for us Bhoys!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1maOiysZe-4
Hi Everyone,
Not long in. A long day.
I think I have an e mail set up for anyone interested in coming over next year. I will post it couple of times tomorrow.
I think Arbour Hill ( where the men of 1916 are) maybe Glasnevin cemetery too, the GPO, and a bit of food and refreshments might be in order.
There’s plenty to see and do and I am open to any suggestions.
Clogher Celt
A Ceiler Gonof Rust,
Wisney there on Friday, £50 beyond my means at the moment.
See you at a later date hiopefully :O).
Hail Hail.
hopefully…damn phone.
CC when does the GAA season kick off ? Always fancied Croker for a Dub game.. And if you know Helen Dunne tell her I still love her.. My own Nancy Spain ;)
Sorry I meant to add Kilmainham Gaol too.
Anyway I’ll post an e mail in the morning.
I’ll look into the GAA matches too.
clogher celt, stop teasing and set a date.
If you set it, we will come.
HH bruv
Fred C.
HH I look forward to it.
Night Bhoys night wee Oscar my hero God bless x x
May ur giving hand never fail and may the sun always shine ur eyes!!!
May you be an hour in heaven b4 the devil knows ur dead!!
Acgr,
Point taken. I’ll try and do it tomorrow. In between pints of the black stuff.
Thanks for the post.
Up the Tic.
Happy St. Patricks day everyone.
20 years ago today I wore a Celtic tap under my wedding attire.
Oh! Happy anniversary Mrs Teuchter.
This is what the Scotsman says today.
“Brown’s conduct is a national failing”.
The assault moves up a gear.
That headline was brought to you by Aidan Smith.
Wow Paul. You never fail to amuse me
Yup let’s try and hide the underinvestment in the side with statistics
The reason we were turfed out of cups by inferior teams is due to the lack of investment and selling the family silver to ensure PL gets his hands on his silverwear. Ie his bonus ps. I see you like to compare jock to ronny. Jock would have picked up PL and kicked him out the front door
There is no way bonus’s would had stood in the way of jock
Aye that’s good Sid tim. Get rid pf peter lawell and we’ll put down jackets for posts and hope that thousands show up. Btw I hope he doesn’t earn a penny over nmw. Happy clapper me! Can we no just livein the moment and pray for hue treble?
Sorry have I broke it?
http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/celtic-release-scenes-footage-league-cup-final-win-video/?
Video from Sunday set to St Patricks day music.
Eurochamps67
17:09 on 16 March, 2015
Great news that the upper tiers are now being opened for Wednesday.
Eurochamps67
17:12 on 16 March, 2015
They are not really but thought it might wake BSR up.
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Aberdeen came to CP in the SC last season and – apparently – the biggest lift that they got was when it became obvious that hauf of Celtic’s home gate…dont attend anymore.
Only saying…..oot – to the piano tune fea the Hulk.
Hail Glorious St Patrick Day to ye all
Red eye flight to catch
Hail Hail
Stephenofderby
It will be a start. Will send a message to fans that the days of paying bonus and selling our best players ahead of investing in team are gone
To be honest. We should be winning the treble as our turnover is 5-6 times our nearrest rivals
Not winning it again and again in a one horse race is a big problem
Happy Saint Patrick’s Day to all from a sun-kissed Black-Sea.
Good morning friends and a Big Happy St Patrick’s Day from a dry and calm East Kilbride. Hoping communion is under both species this morning ;-)
G’mornin’ troops.
A grand day in prospect here on THE rebel frontline – no-doubt spent in the convivial company of Celtic supporting revelers. St Patrick’s Parade at 2.00.
Liquid lunch thereafter.
In ither news….
A quick swaatch back an’ anurra ” character” exits stage left…………..an’ quick-as-a-flash there’s anurra wan in a series with their pooh-pooh panto act……
Hunguffery In A Sleekitly Stolen Scarf.
Corcaigh Abu!
Has bomber seen ra deeds yet????.
Those who are paid to punt peesh about the tribute act are also paid to package convenient stories that have collateral damage for our Great Club…….
All for the guid o’ scoddish foo’ball……
Guff!
Sydney tim his bonus may be disproportionate but I think celtic are well run. I don’t want to support a zombie club. Happy st Patricks day. We all want the same. A celtic team that we like to watch that wins games. Hoopy days. Watch man city for investment vs success? I hope ronnie is here til he builds a team that can compete in Europe. From one celtic man to another, different opinions, same cloth
Happy St Patrick’s day to one and all. HH
You may be glad (or not) that Alfie has flounced off but he has posted an excellent comment on The Scotsman site in response to the tiresome claims of tainted titles. I assume there’s only one Alfie Noakes!!!
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Loud and Proud – you say “*tainted due to no serious competition”
Are you seriously saying that if the Ibrox shambles had been in the Premiership, they would have been serious opposition?
Your lot chose to cheat, lie, administrate, liquidate and start a new club in the bottom tier – meanwhile we kept paying our way, playing in Europe, winning trophies and turning in profits.
Even Hibs and Hearts, who have had their trials, can run their affairs in an honest and professional manner.
There is one one thing ‘tainted’ in Scottish football – that’s the ‘big hoose’ and all who inhabit it.
Happy Saint Patrick’s Day from a sunny gay Paree.
Still a big sports talking point for the hurting Scotsman today:
“Brown’s conduct is a national failing” by Aidan Smith.
What a sad man, but there must be an even sadder audience for it.
I wish the club would just ban the lot of them.