Jock Stein won his first five League Cups as Celtic manager (no pressure, Ronny) but in the 43 years since we’ve won the trophy only eight times, including yesterday.
There has been a bit of chat that the Treble is a bit easier since Rangers were liquidated, but, if you know your history, you’ll know that’s not really borne out by the facts.
We’ve won three of the last 10 League Cups and lost to Rangers once but the six other defeats in that period have come at the hands of the likes of Morton, St Mirren and Kilmarnock. What’s more, Falkirk, Hearts (twice) and Morton all knocked us out at Celtic Park. We haven’t actually lost an away game in the League Cup for over a decade. 25 of our 35 defeats since Stein’s five-in-a-row have come to teams other than Rangers.
Here is a list of our eventual outcomes in the League Cup, winners or those who eliminated us:
2014-15 Winners
Morton
St Mirren
Kilmarnock
Rangers
Hearts
2008-09 Winners
Hearts
Falkirk
2005-06 Winners
Rangers (November 2004 Celtic’s last away defeat in the League Cup)
Hibs
Rangers
Rangers
2000-01 Winners
1999-00 Winners
Airdrie
1997-98 Winners
Hearts
Raith Rovers
Rangers
Aberdeen
Airdrie
Rangers
Aberdeen
Dundee United
Aberdeen
Rangers
Hibs
Dundee United
Rangers
1982-83 Winners
St Mirren
Dundee United
Aberdeen
Rangers
St Mirren
Aberdeen
Rangers
1974-75 Winners
Dundee
Hibs
Partick Thistle
Rangers
At the 40th anniversary of Lisbon I wrote about the 1965-66 until 1969-70 period. Jock Stein won 12 of the 15 domestic trophies available, five Leagues, five League Cups and two Scottish Cups. We also won and lost a European Cup Final, while beating champions from Italy, Portugal France and England.
That we went on to win nine-in-a-row disguised the fact that the real glory era ended in 1970. The last four title winning seasons were not characterised by beating anyone substantial in Europe (notwithstanding the fact that we reached two European Cup semis) and a series of capitulations in League Cup Finals. The downwards trajectory from beating Leeds at Hampden and finishing fifth in the league in 1978 is evident.
Two inferences can be drawn:
Winning trebles is incredibly difficult. One slip, one bad tackle leading to a red card, and you are up against it.
Teams who aspire to genuine historical greatness never switch off.
We have a ‘never switch off’ manager. No more Mortons, Falkirks or Raith Rovers’.
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keeping the faith
10:56 on 17 March, 2015
Brilliant “Big Strong Man” he needed to be to carry that crucifix around his neck, will be in GH in the coming few weeks hopefully enjoying more Celtic success, will get a beer with your good self at some point, CQN is a small world
Happy St Patrick’s Day to all CQNers. Those in New York will be getting ready to march down 5th Avenue. Was there in 2010. What a great experience.
For me its not about spending money it is about spending money well and there is no doubt in my mind that we are let down in that area Balde Pukki to name only two.Millions of pounds wasted.Now at the same time we are paying for a development squad and Lennox Town with as yet with no real return so for me not spending money is not the problem it is the scatter gun approach that is wrong.We should work even harder at finding and signing the best young prospects we can find they then should be given the best coaching that we can afford and give youngsters first team exposure more than we are doing currently.If we are buying players we should look more closely at young Scottish players like Zig and Zag as they are more suited to our style of play and settle in quickly.I have hope that Ronny will want to develop our younger players but the problem may be that if Ronny is successful we will no doubt lose him to the Epl.However,we should not let that stop us from youth development as it in my opinion is our best way forward.H.H.
A big thank you everyone from my beautiful daughter Patrice.
She is enjoying seeing her name in lights on CQN for her birthday.
Many happy returns to Micktt jr & TCR’s sister Susan.
Happy Saint Patrick’s Day.
See you in Partick tonight BMCUW. :)
Happy Birthday to my oldest son 16 today and a happy birthday also to Patrice Delaneys Dunky…
Hope you all makes us proud and have a successful future. We love ye.
To everyone having a birthday or just celebrating best wishes..
Ayrshire is Green and White
MickTT My eldest daughter is also 16 today!
Jerry Corn….10.28
And so say all of us!
Great post LOL, LOL
HH
Happy St Patrick’s Day everyone.
Re, the trip to Dublin 2016 I have set up the following e mail address;
dublin2016@mail.com
dublin2016@mail.com
If anyone is interested in coming over around Easter 2016, please drop me an email.
I have a few interesting visits in mind during the trip.
If anyone has any preferences around dates, things to do etc please let me know. Or maybe how they might help with the organising of the trip?
I’ll post this message a couple of times in over the next few days.
I intend to get back to any interested parties by e mail by the weekend with more information.
Anyway enjoy the day everyone.
Clogher.
The Hooded Claw
March 16, 2015 at 9:42 pm
Why is P Murray still stating he is the interim Chairman when the SFA have a regulation forbidding this?
He was a Director of RFC months before it was LIQUIDATED which bans him from office bearer status for five years.
Did he appeal that automatic ban and win? On what grounds? Fans/ shareholders need to encourage their Boards to take on the SFA on this.
>>>>>>>>
Just in case anyone wasn’t sure about collusion / corruption…..
Maidin mhaith agus beannachtai na Fheile Padraig oraibh.
leftclicktic
11:03 on 17 March, 2015
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
A sevco supporting fan in my work asked me why no GMS or Armstrong in the scotland team…… Oh to be that Young and naive again……1 word “demographic “
Delaneys Dunky
Love and best wishes to….
PATRICE…
If she read this , i would just like to let her know Celtic are lucky to have supporters like yir Da , what a guy , anyhoo Happy Birthday xxx
Ps . And everyone else who has a birthday today …
Pps… Was Donald Findlay ex Rfc not born on this day , might be wrong usually am ,
if he was hahaha
Happy Birthday ya auld biggot !!
67heaven .. challenging the lie ..i am wee oscar / neil lennon.. ipox belongs to the creditors
I have asked that question many times in here about P Murray being on that board, and still can’t get a true answer, I’m sure he is under a five year ban, as you sais yourself , it’s a strange one.
@Joe Filippis Haircut
I agree that there need to be a re-think on strategy. I think we have been rewarded by going Scottish with Griffiths, GMS and Armstrong. Johnny Russell, Stevie May, James McCarthy, McArthur, Snodgrass etc. We have let quite a few good young players go.
You are always going to get a few Pukki’s no matter what. Every club signs duds. Though our recent record with strikers is rank.
new article posted.
Any video of the school choir singing soldiers song at the start of cqn11 ?
Spooky enough…..
Esteemed poster DD’s daughter Patrice celebrates her birthday and so does ex arsenal full back….Pat Rice. :-o
Happy birthday y’all
HH
proudbhoy
10:47 on 17 March, 2015
TRC
Cheers buddy
How did the ard feis go last week ?
U catch any of the gigs.. hear cruncher was back in town.
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Was working all weekend pal.
Didn’t get to anything.
My son did though.
Shebeen and Gary Og were over and the place was packed I hear.
St Columb’s Hall on Saturday night,700 at it!
Sorry proudbhoy, forgot to add.
Cruncher was indeed here too.