Jock Stein won his first five League Cups as Celtic manager (no pressure, Ronny) but in the 43 years since we’ve won the trophy only eight times, including yesterday.
There has been a bit of chat that the Treble is a bit easier since Rangers were liquidated, but, if you know your history, you’ll know that’s not really borne out by the facts.
We’ve won three of the last 10 League Cups and lost to Rangers once but the six other defeats in that period have come at the hands of the likes of Morton, St Mirren and Kilmarnock. What’s more, Falkirk, Hearts (twice) and Morton all knocked us out at Celtic Park. We haven’t actually lost an away game in the League Cup for over a decade. 25 of our 35 defeats since Stein’s five-in-a-row have come to teams other than Rangers.
Here is a list of our eventual outcomes in the League Cup, winners or those who eliminated us:
2014-15 Winners
Morton
St Mirren
Kilmarnock
Rangers
Hearts
2008-09 Winners
Hearts
Falkirk
2005-06 Winners
Rangers (November 2004 Celtic’s last away defeat in the League Cup)
Hibs
Rangers
Rangers
2000-01 Winners
1999-00 Winners
Airdrie
1997-98 Winners
Hearts
Raith Rovers
Rangers
Aberdeen
Airdrie
Rangers
Aberdeen
Dundee United
Aberdeen
Rangers
Hibs
Dundee United
Rangers
1982-83 Winners
St Mirren
Dundee United
Aberdeen
Rangers
St Mirren
Aberdeen
Rangers
1974-75 Winners
Dundee
Hibs
Partick Thistle
Rangers
At the 40th anniversary of Lisbon I wrote about the 1965-66 until 1969-70 period. Jock Stein won 12 of the 15 domestic trophies available, five Leagues, five League Cups and two Scottish Cups. We also won and lost a European Cup Final, while beating champions from Italy, Portugal France and England.
That we went on to win nine-in-a-row disguised the fact that the real glory era ended in 1970. The last four title winning seasons were not characterised by beating anyone substantial in Europe (notwithstanding the fact that we reached two European Cup semis) and a series of capitulations in League Cup Finals. The downwards trajectory from beating Leeds at Hampden and finishing fifth in the league in 1978 is evident.
Two inferences can be drawn:
Winning trebles is incredibly difficult. One slip, one bad tackle leading to a red card, and you are up against it.
Teams who aspire to genuine historical greatness never switch off.
We have a ‘never switch off’ manager. No more Mortons, Falkirks or Raith Rovers’.
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That’s your perogative and good luck to you. .
I dread the word fundamentalist
Love peace and tolerance is my own motto
What is the Stars
23:20 on 16 March, 2015
Petec
I am grasping you
People should not be hardcore fundamental about anything.
Good and bad everywhere
Always keep an open mind
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I know how things are used to control people.
I’m Hardcore fundamental about Jesus and his teachings, I keep sinning Howevaaaah, luckily enough Christ paid the Ultimate price for my continuous sinning, I just recognised My Dad is my Dad and My Father is in Heaven.
Petec
Ok whatever
Personally I gave up on religion at 14,
but people should be free to beleive what they want and practice their faith in a reasonable manner.
Tontine Tim
Mc Gowans family are from Coatbridge
What is the Stars,
History is long, many Bible Scholars give incredible evidence we are at the very end of days.
That Book of Life undoubtedly has “What is the Stars” in there somewhere.
;))
Petec
People have been predicting the end forever
So far they have always been wrong. Live your life as best you can, teach your children right from wrong, love your neighbour and be tolerant of others and forget about the old End is Nigh Stuff
This is it.
I mentioned it before.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursillo
If ye feel you need spiritual help this is your destination
What is the Stars
23:36 on 16 March, 2015
Petec
People have been predicting the end forever
So far they have always been wrong. Live your life as best you can, teach your children right from wrong, love your neighbour and be tolerant of others and forget about the old End is Nigh Stuff
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thumbsup
I would have paid a million quid for the way a Cursillo weekend sorted my head out.
jamesgang
Enjoyed that!!!
But the end is Nigh.
;)
I think I have been quite vocal about this, I don’t mean to be.
It would be easier on me to not think along these lines.
ENJOY Life, and especially Enjoy Celtic.
Macanbheatha,
Are you about buddy?
Great friend of mine reckons he knows ye..
My son was showing me my grandson (8) he filmed at his first final yesterday.. The wee man had all the tempo to a tee.Even the overhead claps after We’re on the road again. Brill and chest well out!!!
H H
I’ve been wandering back and forward, pacing like a mad hun bealer who found an asbestos flake on his fat bald heid, and generally fretting. No need, Miss ACGR has arrived in china and I was worried due to her flying with that crap Chinese airline that keep flying their planes into the sea.
Now I can focus on the big Rutherglen window dummy:_)
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Saw a lot of posts about alfred nooks Did I miss CQN eclipse, raining frogs type event?
Happy Saint Patricks Day to all you Bhoys out there!!
13th and 14th of March.
Hope those two dates were well embedded in Alfie’s napper.
TCR. Almore: I used to go to the Flowing Tide in the mid fifties when on holiday in Dublin and stayed with the Brackens in Fairview(he was in the Gardai),visited again about 4 years ago (first time since 1961) and it was a dump as you say but great memories
Cosy Corner Bhoy, are you and your wee fella going to the game on Wednesday?
Cosy corner bhoy,
With the greatest of respect..can I ask what age you are pal?
What is the Stars – 23:36
“…and forget about the old End is Nigh Stuff.”
and with that Noah’s neighbour turned and walked away, and as he did the first drop of rain fell…
Happy St Patrick’s Day to one and all
Lubo
I don’t think so. .
All I need now is for one of our more enlightened posters to let me know how to post photo’s on here. I have some great ones of the rutherglen “model”. Stoatirs, even:_)
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I had no problem with Jackie Mac’s after match comments yesterday. He’s not a Celtic employee any more and has his own team to look after. The fact that his team were not up to it doesn’t take away his responsibility to support his players. FFS, we’ll have people complaining that Craig Gordon once came up for a corner next.
Utter tripe, let him do his job the way we’d expect our manager to do his. I’d be more disappointed if he came out and kissed Ronny’s arse yesterday.
Maybe once we’ve won the treble he can chase WIT round George square and kiss his flapping tackle. Until then, I’ll respect J Mac’s support for his club and thuggish players.
Acgr,
I clocked a whisky, Queen Margot in Lidl today.
I thought about ye immediately.
Well?
I had one Powers wae 16 rds a while back.
One..I cannae handle it mucks.
pissedvthe noo
Hail glorious St Patrick dear saint of our isle
In Dublin’s fair city, where the girls are so pretty….
And they are stunners trust me….
Top tier should never have been closed.
Let season ticket holders get their own seats.
Who cares how it looks to others.
Hail Hail.
TCR, never heard of or tried the lidl make you mention but I’ve tried some of their previous blend and malts and they’ve all been most acceptable. I think it was Philbhoy who first put me onto them. Every one has been a good session dram.
That Powers that 16 roads was plying me full of in Belfast was not great, far too sweet. I’m not keen on Irish drams for that reason. I used to love them but they’re like sprouts. You don’t eat them then you do then you don’t.
Hope you will be in Dublin for the next hootenanny.
HH bruv
T R
No a bad whisky eh??
Acgr,
Hail to ya M?
You take care pal.
Couldnae get to Belfast .
Nae sweat the next time.
bevvied noo pal.
Jude,
just had a wee swatch at it pal.
Just about to hit the hay.. Hard
But the last few pages have me wondering if anyone from DonnyCarney is around , it’s where my own grandmother is from (born in Jane street which is long gone, now Connolly station) I’m a proud Dub by blood, Sheehan was her name .
While I’m on, Jude yer Bhoy and his bhoy were on our bus yesterday, the future is Green.
Gerryfaethebrig I was speaking/singing with a good friend of ours last night in GH, knew I knew you .. God Bless.
And big Steph Glen 10 years later never forgotten.unrepentant ? and then some.. YNWA
Geordie Munro
21:57 on
16 March, 2015
The other, Ross County won as many games as us and that is probably seen as a bigger achievement
*RC’s manager is a good Dumbarton Tim.
tradamuslampadacsc
jude2005, have you tried it? I’ll take that as a recommendation and pick a boatil up in Brechin. I’m always on the lookout for a good session dram.
TBJ…………………….take note.
HH
Well comrades am offski now.
God bless you all.
Up The Provos.
Whisky ? Talisker was the tipple tonight after many Guinness.
Happy saint Patricks day Celticland x
A C G R
5 or 6 times. That do??
Fred C. Dobbs, didn’t have the pleasure of meeting you on Friday, hopefully next time.