Jock Stein won his first five League Cups as Celtic manager (no pressure, Ronny) but in the 43 years since we’ve won the trophy only eight times, including yesterday.
There has been a bit of chat that the Treble is a bit easier since Rangers were liquidated, but, if you know your history, you’ll know that’s not really borne out by the facts.
We’ve won three of the last 10 League Cups and lost to Rangers once but the six other defeats in that period have come at the hands of the likes of Morton, St Mirren and Kilmarnock. What’s more, Falkirk, Hearts (twice) and Morton all knocked us out at Celtic Park. We haven’t actually lost an away game in the League Cup for over a decade. 25 of our 35 defeats since Stein’s five-in-a-row have come to teams other than Rangers.
Here is a list of our eventual outcomes in the League Cup, winners or those who eliminated us:
2014-15 Winners
Morton
St Mirren
Kilmarnock
Rangers
Hearts
2008-09 Winners
Hearts
Falkirk
2005-06 Winners
Rangers (November 2004 Celtic’s last away defeat in the League Cup)
Hibs
Rangers
Rangers
2000-01 Winners
1999-00 Winners
Airdrie
1997-98 Winners
Hearts
Raith Rovers
Rangers
Aberdeen
Airdrie
Rangers
Aberdeen
Dundee United
Aberdeen
Rangers
Hibs
Dundee United
Rangers
1982-83 Winners
St Mirren
Dundee United
Aberdeen
Rangers
St Mirren
Aberdeen
Rangers
1974-75 Winners
Dundee
Hibs
Partick Thistle
Rangers
At the 40th anniversary of Lisbon I wrote about the 1965-66 until 1969-70 period. Jock Stein won 12 of the 15 domestic trophies available, five Leagues, five League Cups and two Scottish Cups. We also won and lost a European Cup Final, while beating champions from Italy, Portugal France and England.
That we went on to win nine-in-a-row disguised the fact that the real glory era ended in 1970. The last four title winning seasons were not characterised by beating anyone substantial in Europe (notwithstanding the fact that we reached two European Cup semis) and a series of capitulations in League Cup Finals. The downwards trajectory from beating Leeds at Hampden and finishing fifth in the league in 1978 is evident.
Two inferences can be drawn:
Winning trebles is incredibly difficult. One slip, one bad tackle leading to a red card, and you are up against it.
Teams who aspire to genuine historical greatness never switch off.
We have a ‘never switch off’ manager. No more Mortons, Falkirks or Raith Rovers’.
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bada bing
should be dimaria.
Andyr53…..I.think you will find setting free the bears is correct,Himmler was merely similar…unlike poor old Goebbels….
almore
22:40 on 16 March, 2015
TCR: Beltons! It’s a long time since its been known as that. It was my local too, had my first “legal” drink there. It is now known as Kitty Kiernans and its off-license has now taken over the chipper beside it. The supermarket, also called Beltons, is now part of the pub. The Beltons were Fine Gaelers and the owner of the pub or a brother was a FG TD for longford
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Good Lord.Paddy my da would have burned it to the ground had he known that.hahahaha.
I was telling what is the Stars where I swallyed in Dublin.
The Flowing Tide in Lower Abbey St..dump now.
Worked in the Coome for a year and drunk in Crumlin.
Happy,happy days.
A pittance?? Jeezo, wish I was paid a tenth of the pittance Celtic players get.
WITS,
Great to see the Dubs on..
Love them
Almore
The celtic/shamrock rover’s game in 86 was in Milltown and was long before cascarino,
WITS: I stand corrected. They do have Longford connections though. They have not been active in this area for a long time now. CJH blighted the area after the Belton era. In the last local elections SF and Socialist Party had councillors elected, something unprecedented for this area.
Anyway, off to mo lea a.
Nos dda
What is the Stars,
Remind me what you were gonnae do?
It is related to my best man speech at ma wee Brothers wedding.
;)
Nudity is involved.
Stantheman…
What happened to poor Goebbels?? Is he the same old Goebbels with his history intact, or did he suffer liquidation and is now called ‘the Goebbels’.???
As one who has not been blessed YET with setting foot on Irish soil,
Happy St Patricks day when it comes all.
Always remember to forget
The things that made you sad.
But never forget to remember
The things that made you glad.
Always remember to forget
The friends that proved untrue.
But never forget to remember
Those that have stuck by you.
Always remember to forget
The troubles that passed away.
But never forget to remember
The blessings that come each day.
Gooooooooooooooood night all
TCR: lots of good times in the Flowing Tide but area in decline now.
WITS: the Shamrock Rovers game I was at was probably early 90s.
Re Himmler, Hitler, Goebels etc, did one of them really have one on display at The Kelvin Hall? If so, what a fortunate venue to facilitate a song.
Petec
That’s only if we win the treble
Almore
Haughey and Belton were contemporaries
Leftclicktic,
I duly elect you to lead next Easter’s centenary parade past the GPO..
tricoloured ribbon
22:57 on 16 March, 2015
Leftclicktic,
I duly elect you to lead next Easter’s centenary parade past the GPO..
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Wow
PerfectChoiceCSC
Night x
HH jamesgang
leftclicktic
Angelic
I remember seeing a tweet, it was a Loyalist Tweet and it had the 6 fingers. Whenever you see a 6 finger image, it is not an accident, it was quickly removed (many hours later) from Stan Collymores twitter CRAP.
Those Loyalists at the higher levels are embracing Satan.
Regarding TV coverage of the game on Wednesday night and it clashing with Champions League fixtures hence the reason it is not being shown live
Birmingham City v Chelsea Tuesday 6 March shown live on ITV 1
However not a couple of hundred miles away from Birmingham on the very same evening
Champions League round of 16 second Leg
Arsenal 3 Milan 0
Shown live on another channel
The year was 2012
Bobby Russell…
You not getting mixed up with the Burrell Collection??… they were exhibiting old German helmets and other ww2 memorabilia recently.
What is the Stars
22:55 on 16 March, 2015
Petec
That’s only if we win the treble
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Those Swiss Bankers, to be fair he wasn’t one at the Time, well he gambled against his likewise pal he would Streak round the George Square ice rink BOLLOCK for 100 quid. He’s a bampot and he did it, anonymity granted in Switzerland.
andyr53
Bollox!!
ANDYR53
I presume the helmets were all intact?
On my last visit to Dublin I drank in Fitzgeralds on Aston Quay.
Right on the Liffey.Superb.
If God spares me I have Dublin,Belfast and Clydebank to get to this year.
And I will.
Can anyone direct me to Alfie Noakes’ resignation/walking away post?
I just want to be sure he’s really gone…
Sun 28th July 1991
Ireland tour Liam Brady 4th game as celtic boss
Shamrock rovers 0
Henderson
Carroll(devine 66min)
Lawlor,mcconnell,Moody,Campbell,Connell,
Arkins(buckley 66min)
O’connor(eccles 73min)
Swan,treacy.
Celtic 2
Tony cascarino 09min first goal for celtic
Charlie Nicholas 73min
Pat Bonner,
Chris Morris,Anton Rogan,peter Grant,Derek whyte,
Steve fulton(mark McNally 77min)
Joe miller(martin Hayes 51min)
Andy walker(gerry creaney 61min)
Tony cascarino
Charlie nicholas(dariusz dziekanowski 81min)
John Collins
Played at royal Dublin foreground
Bobby Russell…
No it’s all true..
bmcuwp..
Most of them were, but some had shown signs of damage, particularly those that had served in the trenches.
Petec.
Rube /Rangers
Rube are Fiat and Fiat are Italy. Influence and power.Rube have clout in Italy way beyond anything Rangers had or have in Scotland..Comparing Rangers with Rube is like comparing Mussolini with Hitler…
Rube support tend to have a big sense of entitlement..
As things stand Rube are streets ahead of any other Serie A club.Less need for honest mistakes etc.. Good chance Borussia Dortmund will put them out of the Champions League.
Frank marker
Yes that was a friendly played at RDS
The game in 1986 was a European cup game, celtic won one nil, murdo late winner
It was played at Milltown which was rover’s home ground for over 60 years until sold to developers in 87
mickbhoy
Absolutely correct.
About 4 years ago too,a Premiership game was on live on a Champions League night.
Think it was Liverpool and the FA simply ignored EUFA’s ruling.
No reason for the Celtic game not to be on.
Tricoloured Ribbon
23:05 on 16 March, 2015
On my last visit to Dublin I drank in Fitzgeralds on Aston Quay.
Right on the Liffey.Superb.
If God spares me I have Dublin,Belfast and Clydebank to get to this year.
And I will.
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The hour is very late, of that there is no argument. Francis is talking about if it is Gods Will, him being assassinated. The time is now for people to be Fundamentalist Christians, IMO.
FIELDOFDRAMS
2224 on live updates article last night.
Petec
People shouldn’t be fundamental anythings. .
Life is fluid. Live love enjoy. Be tolerant of others and don’t be hung up about any philosophy religion or ism
Lots of jobs coming up for ambitious Managers on Gardening Leave-
Roma / Napoli / Inter / AC Milan
South Of Tunis 23:09,
Thanks for that info, the way Juve get help just against Celtic, sickens me.
Pete,
I thank God every day that he spares me comrade.I don’t take it for granted.
I’ll be thinking about ye at Mass tomorrow.
Hail glorious St.Patrick.
What is the Stars
23:14 on 16 March, 2015
Petec
People shouldn’t be fundamental anythings. .
Life is fluid. Live love enjoy. Be tolerant of others and don’t be hung up about any philosophy religion or ism
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You urnae grasping whit I’m actually saying.
People should be Hardcore Fundamentalist about Jesus and his teachings, beats literal Islam anyway. :P
Petec
I am grasping you
People should not be hardcore fundamental about anything.
Good and bad everywhere
Always keep an open mind
WITS,
My faith is vitally important to me.
I will not ever ram it down people’s throats but I get great comfort from it.