Jock Stein won his first five League Cups as Celtic manager (no pressure, Ronny) but in the 43 years since we’ve won the trophy only eight times, including yesterday.
There has been a bit of chat that the Treble is a bit easier since Rangers were liquidated, but, if you know your history, you’ll know that’s not really borne out by the facts.
We’ve won three of the last 10 League Cups and lost to Rangers once but the six other defeats in that period have come at the hands of the likes of Morton, St Mirren and Kilmarnock. What’s more, Falkirk, Hearts (twice) and Morton all knocked us out at Celtic Park. We haven’t actually lost an away game in the League Cup for over a decade. 25 of our 35 defeats since Stein’s five-in-a-row have come to teams other than Rangers.
Here is a list of our eventual outcomes in the League Cup, winners or those who eliminated us:
2014-15 Winners
Morton
St Mirren
Kilmarnock
Rangers
Hearts
2008-09 Winners
Hearts
Falkirk
2005-06 Winners
Rangers (November 2004 Celtic’s last away defeat in the League Cup)
Hibs
Rangers
Rangers
2000-01 Winners
1999-00 Winners
Airdrie
1997-98 Winners
Hearts
Raith Rovers
Rangers
Aberdeen
Airdrie
Rangers
Aberdeen
Dundee United
Aberdeen
Rangers
Hibs
Dundee United
Rangers
1982-83 Winners
St Mirren
Dundee United
Aberdeen
Rangers
St Mirren
Aberdeen
Rangers
1974-75 Winners
Dundee
Hibs
Partick Thistle
Rangers
At the 40th anniversary of Lisbon I wrote about the 1965-66 until 1969-70 period. Jock Stein won 12 of the 15 domestic trophies available, five Leagues, five League Cups and two Scottish Cups. We also won and lost a European Cup Final, while beating champions from Italy, Portugal France and England.
That we went on to win nine-in-a-row disguised the fact that the real glory era ended in 1970. The last four title winning seasons were not characterised by beating anyone substantial in Europe (notwithstanding the fact that we reached two European Cup semis) and a series of capitulations in League Cup Finals. The downwards trajectory from beating Leeds at Hampden and finishing fifth in the league in 1978 is evident.
Two inferences can be drawn:
Winning trebles is incredibly difficult. One slip, one bad tackle leading to a red card, and you are up against it.
Teams who aspire to genuine historical greatness never switch off.
We have a ‘never switch off’ manager. No more Mortons, Falkirks or Raith Rovers’.
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Adam Lallana £26 mil ……
0-2 samp
Sipsini
Thanks for that. just up out the cot and still a bit fragile
from the weekend but that puts me in the mood for today.
H.H Mick
clashcitybhoy
re crc’s comment:-
“Its called dunting the player oot the way as they are about to shoot(rough translation)
A favourite of mine at CQN 5s :-)”
Don’t believe him! he dunts people out of the way whether they are about to shoot or no.
It’s no safe to walk the corridors with him outside the sports hall.
Paul67,
I can’t hear enough of Ronny Deila when he speaks, he was massive in Belief after the Murrayfield nonsense by the players.
Hopefully young Liam can start cementing a place in this team, as he is quality, like a few already in the team.
With the way the World has went, Celtic are likely to win the Europa League but be blocked from winning the Champions League. I have no doubts Ronny won’t be talking as defeatist as me, howevaaah, and there is the real difference, I aint no Footbal Manager. ;))
Oh Ronny Ronny!!!!!
If the Dundee utd foul was a penalty we can claim back aboot a thousand of our own on PPI.
What does Ronny have to do to win manager of the month Winning every game is obviously not enough.
barrach obampot.
Yes – I have the choon on Coxsone but obsessive compulsive me wants the UK issue on Island too.
Winning Captain or anybody involved in CQN11 can you tell me if there is a list of raffle winners. If so could you give me a link please. Well done to you all for what was obviously another great occasion. Hail Hail Hebcelt
Roma down to 10
Clashcity,
If Madden thought it was a pen and wanted to give it he woulda;)
HH
petec,
Hope you and all in the great Tim town of Dumbarton are well.
SFTB
Still no pen awarded though :-)
HH
CRC
GM-He was taking advice of linesman,he looked at him for about 10 seconds.
Dundee United gave us problems yesterday.
Dow is an undoubted danger and we have to nail him on Wednesday.
Good wee player.
South Of Tunis
know the feeling! just keep your eyes peeled on Discogs. just blagged a Nascente compilation yesterday I’d been after for ages with a green and white sleeve – knew that would be a good omen!
HH
hebcelt
I posted the raffle winners last night and all prizes were sent out today. We also sent a little something to everyone who contributed. Winners post last night at just after 10pm.
Colour Blind Bhoy
21:22 on 16 March, 2015
Have just done a quick virtual tour of the stadium seating plan and it looks like being a pretty low crowd.
I really hope we see a last minute rush and that Ronny and the Bhoys get the support they deserve.
Hail Hail
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Depending on traffic out of work I could make the game, unlikely to even bother trying now as it seems to me that the Club is penny pinching. Open up the central upper tickets and I’d guess another 5000 would turn up. People are looking at the tickets available and saying nah, not sitting by myself in a corner.
Micromanagement gone bad. Whodathunkit.
Bada,
So I believe.
Only qualifies him as a decent ref in doing so imo. Many don’t take advice.
HH
mullet and co 2
Mentioned yesterday, that I had a cracking view of the referee and his assistant.
Madden was giving the decision and moved towards the penalty spot, he was talking to the assistant. Whatever the linesman said stopped the award. My thoughts were that the assistant wasn’t 100% and Madden doubted himself.
It was a penalty all day long – but wouldn’t have given it if I was the MIB.
Leftie
Found that. V funny.
Bedtime story anyone?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pgl4dhHEfE4
There you go!
Sweet dreams.
Night
HH jamesgang
Roma 0-2 sampdoria ft
“What does Ronny have to do to win manager of the month Winning every game is obviously not enough.”
Overseasbhoy,
I’m not arguing. I think he Coulda been given more bit in all honesty I can see why he hadn’t.
We have only won every game in two months and he was given motm for one of those.
The other, Ross County won as many games as us and that is probably seen as a bigger achievement
HH
Roma get the thumbs-down in the Coliseum from the Christians.
Chariot-wheels coming off their season!
Tricoloured Ribbon,
HH Great Celt.
I hope you enjoyed the game yesterday, the First of many trophies IMO, that will include European Silverware.
;)
crc
“Still no pen awarded though”
Its only a pen if the offence is committed within the same sports hall in which the match is taking place.
Micromanagement gone bad……
not really sure what that means, so on that note, good night and take care
No St Paddys swally for me tomorrow I am in the dry-out zone, last year St Paddys ended up in the Brazen Head 2pm-6pm couple of old workmates heading there tomorrow, everybody else have a good one
Ally McCoist should be manager of the month.Every month..
AlanTitchmarshcsc
Bhoylo83: how long have you been asleep for? Are you over on Saturday?
Petec: I understand you have ticket for me for Saturday. Much appreciated – I’ll be in touch in next couple of days.
Robinbhoy: hope you enjoyed Phoenix. I lived there for nine months thirty years ago. The ghuy who runs the Celtic bar there sold me my first ever car. We exchanged Csc club polo shirts when I visited a few years ago. Seamus still comes over to Celtic matches whenever he can.
Glasgowcelticway: you mentioned a Celtic v Shamrock Rovers match in Dublin in 1986. Did Tony Cascarino play in that match? If so, that was my first ever Celtic match. The match v SR was at the RDS
WC ok scrolled back and found the post, thanks for the quick response. Hail Hail Hebcelt
Jamesgang
Just watching morning telly here and all the news people
and talking heads, camera crew all in green and a big
tricolour covering the table today, just like STV eh.
H.H Mick
Petec,
I had very little sleep these last few days.Was exhausted yesterday.
Not enough though to keep me out of the pub.
Had a magical day.
God bless ye and when I come home we will get that long awaited pint.
Almore,
Looking forward to, hopefully, beating Dundee Utd for a 4th time in a row.
Wednesday is the Biggest game of the Season, United will have very weary limbs but will fight like their lives depend on it. Celtic will score 3 or 4 in the 2nd half, going by my bets lately that equates to Celtic scoring 3 or 4 in the 1st half. I’m not complaining!!!!
bhoys and ghirls before I head off
if you are able to go on Wednesday then go. big effort needed on and off the park.
HH
ps CRC couldn’t get off the island so missed going to the game yesterday. made up by my nine year old niece phoning from Hundump totally excited. She definitely gets being a Tim!
:-)
Almore,
Can I ask mo chara,what part of our capital city are you from?
Question for Jackie who has chose to dissect the referee’s display, do you forget the game in December when McLean was ref. goal disallowed Scep / penalty shout as weak / strong as Dow’s, Johansen flagged off hitting post when clearly onside, cifti challenge early on and probably more but we did not win so nothing to see there.
Also I read Patullo in the Scotsman – biased and hurting – this is a guy who has a go at SB but tells us all that Duncan Ferguson is a misunderstood individual.
If that is how the media are after the first, they are getting ready to have a go if we fail BUT WE WONT.
Good evening my fellow Tim’s.. quick one for someone.. where are the official pics that were taken on Friday night??
HAIL HAIL and Mon the Hoops..