“Giant punishments” on Rangers were illusory, you were punished instead

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Malcolm Murray, the newly appointed chairman of the Newco club Charles Green hopes to establish, yesterday entertained us with his comments on punishments served on a football team suspected of cheating you for over a decade.  He said:

“We’ve had giant punishments already – a European ban, a 10-point deduction, the emotional trauma everyone has suffered. I think, for the good of Scottish football, it’s much better Rangers in the SPL.”

There has been no European ban.  Newco will not be eligible for European competition because it is a Newco and Uefa requires three years accounts from participating clubs.  They are simply not eligible, they have not and will not achieve the qualification criteria for European football for three years.

The 10-point penalty imposed on Rangers last season for seeking protection from creditors by going into administration is hardly a “giant” punishment.  It changed nothing.  Rangers were second in the league when it was imposed and remained so.  They released no players and went on to defeat Motherwell twice, ensuring they finished the league in second place, earning £900k in additional prize money.

As a punishment, it is the equivalent of banning Ally McCoist from this year’s 100m Olympic competition.  Pointless.

Which leaves us with “the emotional trauma everyone has suffered”.  Compared to the emotional trauma suffered by Dundee, Motherwell, Gretna, Third Lanark fans, recent events have been nothing more than a focus for some robust rallying calls.

Don’t even start me on the emotional cost of losing the league in 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010 and 2011, all to a team of cheats.  How do you measure that?  Think back to each day we lost those titles and tell me how you felt about them then and how you feel now, knowing you were cheated.

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  1. Kitalba

     

     

    Thank you for that wee snippet of news on our bhoy Kano. Fantastic that he is getting a holiday away from his normal life. A big well done to his friends at his golf club a Ramie for their efforts once again.

     

     

    That reminds me. I’ll need to drop Martin an email. Always in my thoughts but sadly not in my communications often enough. Massive failure on my part.

     

     

    MWD

  2. Kitalba @ 10.00am

     

     

    that’s brilliant news re Kano .

     

     

    Pass on my best wishes to Marin , Carolyn and Ramie please. It’s good to know that the work of the BMH committee is still bearing fruit.

     

     

    HH

  3. Your “favourite” coach Dick Advocat caused big scandal last night at the press conference.

     

    He told : I don’t care what people in Russia think about me. Me and my coaching stuff did good job.

     

     

    He left Warsaw alone, flew back to Moscow (maybe somewhere else) before Russia team.

  4. Archie McPherson in the sun today said “we have to be very careful about using the term sporting integrity”

     

     

    Woof

     

     

    Of course we have to be careful , careful who it applies to.

     

     

    In therangers case it applies less than the others who have been booted out before them

     

     

    Why

     

     

    Because of money the same stuff the corrupt oldco tax dodged and borrowed without paying it back to cheat their peers

     

     

    So McPherson is advocating we forget about sporting integrity in therangers case but of course remember it when it suits

     

     

    Aye Archie integrity is something you turn on and off depending on the circumstances

     

     

    Which makes you wonder did integrity underpin his journalistic career or did it depend on the circumstances

  5. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!..Truth and Justice HAS prevailed on

    I see the LL are still calling it ‘ rangers in crisis’ …….. Helllooooo, it’s wakey up time. ………. ,!!!!!

  6. ¡ǝsoɥ ǝɥʇ ǝɯ ssɐd ‘sʞɔıʞ ʎןɟ ɥbnouǝ (o) /o\ z ʍoɹ on

    Tyrehoops

     

     

    These guys are mostly thick. That is why they employ agents. I expect their agents to be fully aware of their status.

     

     

    hh

  7. Big NO to Team X

     

     

    Solution:

     

    Great opportunity for the SPL to get rid of the awful split. The 11 remaining clubs should go as they are, remove the split and meet each other 4 times,

     

    playing 40 matches instead of the present 38.

     

     

    This would give them an extra home match – 20 instead of 18 or 19 currently

     

    This would also guarentee two vists from local rivals and Celtic.

     

    This would go some way to compensating them from any financial impact of losing rangers.

     

     

    The final quarter of fixtures would need to be constructed accordingly with a team in the middle of the table taking no part in the final round of matches.

     

     

    You know it makes sense.

  8. Oglach

     

     

    Difference today is that the assets have gone [allegedly] from old co

     

    ———

     

    Very true but my initial thought was what if Walter Myth were able to obtain the Green man’s assets? Could they merge the 2 entities back into one, as 1872 still exists, and try for another CVA? Lots of money would need to be invested, heaps & heaps, but until such time the 1872 / 1873 entity is erased from company records I’ll keep some jelly and ice cream ready for another wee food fest.

  9. The Narrowbhoat Tim on

    DBBIA

     

     

    Anothe CQN Gardening tip – after planting seeds, to keep the birds away stick a picture of Lee “Elbows” McCulloch (any photo of a hun will do) outside, but be careful you must make sure you draw your kitchen curtains close as you don’t want to scar your kids for life when they are munching on their coco pops

  10. Zbyszek

     

     

    They didn’t call him ‘The Little General’ for nothing.

     

     

    Not since 1812 has there been such bitter fall-out between a large Euro-Asiatic nation and a short-tempered, bewigged commander of diminutive stature.

  11. ¡ǝsoɥ ǝɥʇ ǝɯ ssɐd ‘sʞɔıʞ ʎןɟ ɥbnouǝ (o) /o\ z ʍoɹ on

    I think at this point we should recognise and appreciate the actions of other spl fans who have across most clubs held back on renewing. This mass action is having the greatest influence on the chairmen. I cannot help thinking that they might have appreciated a bit more solidarity from us in this tactic notwithstanding the prevailing view here that our vote will be a no come what may.

     

     

    hh

  12. 21-5-79 on 17 June, 2012 at 10:15 said: My understanding was that NL tweeted about it, if not then understand your criticism.

  13. 67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!!..Truth and Justice HAS prevailed on 17 June, 2012 at 10:15 said:

     

    pggtips2 on 17 June, 2012 at 10:08 said:

     

     

    You are a total erse….

     

     

    8=D

  14. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    Craig Burley was part of a team held in great fondness by the Celtic support.

     

     

    Someone needs to remind him to check which way the ole wind is blowin’ before he starts pissin’.

  15. voguepunter on 17 June, 2012 at 10:15 said:

     

    pggtips2 on 17 June, 2012 at 10:08 said:

     

    Understand where your coming from,but we shouldn’t let a lie become the truth,huns have been

     

    at this for years.

     

     

    Voguepunter

     

     

    They were also financial doping for years and look where it got them.

     

     

    Recent history suggests following what ‘the huns’ do is maybe not the absolutely most optimal strategy a football club can follow.

  16. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    Up over goal – the Emperor was in no sense ‘diminutive’ !

     

     

    He was of average height for a European male of the time [5′ 7″]

     

     

    Please don’t compare him to that preposterous poseur.

  17. MWD:

     

     

    (The bold Kano… so much emotion, so much caring, so much unadulterated joy) “our bhoy Kano”………………. three simple words that epitomises our Club and her Supporters and, in humiliy, oh! how it resonates.

  18. ¡ǝsoɥ ǝɥʇ ǝɯ ssɐd ‘sʞɔıʞ ʎןɟ ɥbnouǝ (o) /o\ z ʍoɹ on

    Oglach

     

     

    Agree with you. Actual death is vital.

     

     

    hh

  19. Son of Warsaw on

    Seriously ? Billy Dodds “writing” for the Herald still, really ?

     

     

    It’s just like nothings happened.

     

     

    Its time for a judicial enquiry fof all of this.

  20. Dontbrattbakkinanger

     

     

    the Emperor was in no sense ‘diminutive’ !

     

     

    Pshaw! I reject your revisionist view of my Hollywood history lessons. Those high-heel boots added a few inches. Also, it’s amazing the effect sticking your hand into your waistcoat has on your perceived stature.

     

     

    Furthermore, if I was his tailor, I’d probably have told him he was average height as well.

  21. ¡ǝsoɥ ǝɥʇ ǝɯ ssɐd ‘sʞɔıʞ ʎןɟ ɥbnouǝ (o) /o\ z ʍoɹ on 17 June, 2012 at 10:38 said:

     

    ”I think at this point we should recognise and appreciate the actions of other spl fans who have across most clubs held back on renewing. This mass action is having the greatest influence on the chairmen. I cannot help thinking that they might have appreciated a bit more solidarity from us in this tactic notwithstanding the prevailing view here that our vote will be a no come what may.”

     

     

     

    Well said.

     

     

    An outsider looking at the alacrity with which many Celtic fans rushed to renew their season books could be forgiven for thinking that we regard ourselves as being part of the old firm.

  22. Lennon n Mc....Mjallby on

    Well Lee McElbows has got me running scared with his comments but I hope he knows,like the season just gone,none of his teammates will have the luxury of an ‘Everybody Bodyswerves Tax’ arrangement.

  23. If reports from Columbia that Hugo Rodallega is about to sign for us are true, I would assume that Sammi is for the off. Similar type players, neither strikers but play their best football attacking off the wing.

     

    Would still expect a target man type striker to sign.

  24. The Narrowbhoat Tim on

    DBBIA

     

     

    Advocaat and Napoleon had more in common than you think!

     

    Napoleon suffered from Hemorrhoids while Dick got piles from EBTs.

     

     

    Preparation H CSC

  25. Harry Redknapp had a meeting with Ally McCoist for a chin wag apparently about their not too dissimilar employment status, they’ve decided to do a movie together called

     

     

    ‘When Harry met Sally’

  26. Ernie L

     

    I renewed my ST in full faith that our board will say No to newco. However if they do not, then it will not be renewed next year and I shall write immediately and let them know why!

     

    HH

  27. I know that this site has a rule against profanity but please excuse me, I have been driven to this –

     

     

    Craig Burley is an ITV commentator

     

     

    There you go. I await my punishment

  28. ¡ǝsoɥ ǝɥʇ ǝɯ ssɐd ‘sʞɔıʞ ʎןɟ ɥbnouǝ (o) /o\ z ʍoɹ on 17 June, 2012 at 10:12 said:

     

     

    Do not think the Amazon analogy fits here.

     

     

    They are actually selling a ‘product’ which you get but can return if you do not like it. Alternatively if they run out they give you your money back.

     

     

    Offering a product that does not exist is not lawful as far as I am aware so are they offering it on the basis that you might get it and I will return it.

     

     

    If D&D doing this and holding on to funds until it happens that could be trading unlawfully and I think they would be responsible for returning fees and absorbing the costs of doing so.

  29. We start our SC campaign on Dec 1st. Brought forward from early Jan

     

     

    Rangers dual contract issue will be discussed at SPL board meeting tomorrow according to SPL secretary Ian Blair. He says that lawyer Rod McKenzie has made “significant progress” in the last few weeks

  30. So, England v Scotland at Wembley in August 2013

     

     

    The English hooligan element will be rubbing their hands in glee at this news

     

     

    I wonder what moron at the SFA approved this?

     

     

    Campbell, Campbell are you there?